OTC's Top 64 Projection Board

You really think Matthews will go before Moncrief? Bold predictions on Cooks and Manziel considering the hype..not that I disagree.

Ealy at 17? I really think he is the 2nd best DE in the draft...maybe the best depending on Clowney. (not that Ealy will be the first one chosen)



All that, great job!!!

Originally posted by Jakemall:

You really think Matthews will go before Moncrief? Bold predictions on Cooks and Manziel considering the hype..not that I disagree.

Ealy at 17? I really think he is the 2nd best DE in the draft...maybe the best depending on Clowney. (not that Ealy will be the first one chosen)



All that, great job!!!

This is of course going to change a bit (I've made some adjustments already), but my initial thoughts are to include a few "surprises" to varying degrees. Cooks could very well be moved back into the 1st by next week as I shuffle things around. But yes, I do think a team will be dumb and select Matthews first. I think we both feel Moncrief is the better player, but chances are that not every GM feels the same.

According to this board we could trade back and pick up an extra 3rd round pick, get Stephen Tuitt and still pick Donte Moncrief and Stanley Jean-Baptiste in round 2. We would then have three 3rd round picks and two 4th round picks to fill out our draft. That would be sweet.

Originally posted by MC9BEAT:

According to this board we could trade back and pick up an extra 3rd round pick, get Stephen Tuitt and still pick Donte Moncrief and Stanley Jean-Baptiste in round 2. We would then have three 3rd round picks and two 4th round picks to fill out our draft. That would be sweet.

Great if that worked

hopefully we trade up to #10-15 for M. Evans

If so, then our chances of landing B. Cooks, Moncrief, Baptiste, and (safety) Buchannon look pretty good...

Originally posted by OnTheClock:
This is of course going to change a bit (I've made some adjustments already), but my initial thoughts are to include a few "surprises" to varying degrees. Cooks could very well be moved back into the 1st by next week as I shuffle things around. But yes, I do think a team will be dumb and select Matthews first. I think we both feel Moncrief is the better player, but chances are that not every GM feels the same.

Lol. So the Moncrief hype on here got so out of control at this point that GM´s around the league are now DUMB if they choose to select Matthews over Moncrief ?
Let me start by saying that both are completely different players so all that comparison should stop. But when we do this for fun and put all together, game tape, stats, personalities, work ethic, potential, Moncrief is not the better all around player at this point. Moncrief has a lot of potential and could become a very good reciever in the NFL but at the same time he could also become only a little over average reciever. It is tough to project the future of NFL prospects. Even more so with the little amount of resources we as fans have. Personally i think both will be productive at the next level. But that dumb part is a little too much hype i would say. Especially if we take into consideration that they have completely different attributes for a team. This comes from someone who watched Moncrief and Matthews closely the last two years and is a fan of both.
Nice work on the top 64 !

OnTheClock your board, rather than the mock predictions, shows the depth of this draft. The 49ers are in a position to call the shots, they can trade up or position themselves for more picks in next years draft. Baalke and Harbaugh can set the team up for upcoming years with this draft.

Nice job OTC

Carr before Johnny Football seems very possible....

It's really hard to make these lists when the talent is at such a high level for almost 3 rounds. I wouldn't even want to try. Usually, it is a lot more clear who is going to go where....but with this much talent a team switching to go BPA or Need could completely change where that player is taken. And with the margins so small, there's going to be a lot of subjective decision making by a lot of GMs.

If they don't trade up or move out to next year, it seems they will be able to pick one or two guys in the secondary and receiver that will be future starters.

Wow this whole thing (Moncreif hype) is getting old.
We get it, you love moncreif
He was such an amazing player in college that he broke SEC records!...
I mean with all those physical attributes he possesses, it was easy to see why he easily led the SEC in rec yards!...
And he did it with no help from the #2 WR!...
Oh wait...
Some of you guys talk about this under achiever as if he is the next mega tron!
He had a verticle offense, a future #1 college WR at #2, and the attributes to dominate. Yet he regressed!
He runs fast and jumps high, so what! He disappeared when he was pressed.
I will also go out on a limb and say he's not that good with the ball in his hands and come the end of the college season he was more of a #2 then #1.
Teams use screens to get the ball to their playmaker and let him make plays! (See Watkins, Matthews)
Yet, Moncreif wasn't that guy, it was Treadwell
I honestly believe, one of the reasons moncreif left school early is because he was going to play second fiddle to Treadwell.

Does he have potential? Yes, it's obvious. Will he reach that potential? Only if he goes to a team that airs it out, but I don't see him developing as a #1.
I don't think he's physical enough, or strong enough. Huge reason why I don't see Josh Gordon, I see more Robert Meachem. Every once in a while he will flash in the pan, but overall he's nothing special.

And now of course here comes the Matthews bashing because I dared question Moncreifs awesomeness...
45% of his catches where screens (see how many Watkins had)
He's only a possession WR and we have too many of those already (sure did look like it last year right? Crab will be an ufa, Boldin in old and... Oh where did all those possession WR go)
He's too slow (4.46 40 time looks slow)
What else?

Originally posted by solidg2000:

Wow this whole thing (Moncreif hype) is getting old.
We get it, you love moncreif
He was such an amazing player in college that he broke SEC records!...
I mean with all those physical attributes he possesses, it was easy to see why he easily led the SEC in rec yards!...
And he did it with no help from the #2 WR!...
Oh wait...
Some of you guys talk about this under achiever as if he is the next mega tron!
He had a verticle offense, a future #1 college WR at #2, and the attributes to dominate. Yet he regressed!
He runs fast and jumps high, so what! He disappeared when he was pressed.
I will also go out on a limb and say he's not that good with the ball in his hands and come the end of the college season he was more of a #2 then #1.
Teams use screens to get the ball to their playmaker and let him make plays! (See Watkins, Matthews)
Yet, Moncreif wasn't that guy, it was Treadwell
I honestly believe, one of the reasons moncreif left school early is because he was going to play second fiddle to Treadwell.

Does he have potential? Yes, it's obvious. Will he reach that potential? Only if he goes to a team that airs it out, but I don't see him developing as a #1.
I don't think he's physical enough, or strong enough. Huge reason why I don't see Josh Gordon, I see more Robert Meachem. Every once in a while he will flash in the pan, but overall he's nothing special.

And now of course here comes the Matthews bashing because I dared question Moncreifs awesomeness...
45% of his catches where screens (see how many Watkins had)
He's only a possession WR and we have too many of those already (sure did look like it last year right? Crab will be an ufa, Boldin in old and... Oh where did all those possession WR go)
He's too slow (4.46 40 time looks slow)
What else?

We get that you prefer Matthews. Honestly, we do. I don't think he is a downfield threat. Show us a clip of him running free on a downfield route after separating from coverage. Show a deep reception where he doesn't push off of a DB that has him blanketed. He's a hard worker, and I'd attribute his 4.46 to diligent work on his stance and start out of the stance as he prepared specifically for the combine. That timed speed doesn't show up as downfield separation in the deep passing game.