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  • GEEK
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Restructure -
Carlos Rogers - CB (Saves $2M in the salary cap)

Extend -
Anquan Boldin - WR - 2 year deal (Saves $3M in 2013 salary cap)

Sign -
Isreal Idonije - DT/DE - Bears (1 year, $2.5M)

NFL Draft -

R1: Eric Reid - FS - LSU
*New center-fielder that takes over for Dashon Goldson.

R2: Justin Hunter - WR - Tennessee (via Chiefs)
*Replaces the role of Randy Moss. 6-4 4.4 speed. This allows Roman to become even more creative. Boldin and Hunter on the outside, and kick Crabtree in the slot.

R2: Darius Slay - CB - Mississippi State
*Competes with Rogers for the slot cornerback role on passing downs. Successor to Rogers in 2014. Goodbye Brock.

R3: Travis Kelce - TE - Cincinnati (via Panthers)
*Replacement for Delanie Walker. Red zone threat with great hands. Strong blocking skills.

R3: Montori Hughes - NT/DE - Tennessee-Martin
*Competes with Ian Williams for the 5th active roster spot along the defensive line. Hughes has a huge frame with high physical upside. Needs to work on technique and conditioning.

Trade: 4th, 5th (via Colts), and 7th round picks for Bucs 4th round pick. Assuming the Bucs acquire Revis from the Jets, the Bucs trade back to accumulate more mid-round draft picks.

R4: Cornelius Washington - DE/OLB - Georgia (via Bucs)
*Situational pass rushing specialist with dominant physical ability. Fangio's pet project. Should take over Gooden's role on special teams.

R4: Reid Fragel - OT/TE - Ohio State (comp)
*In the mold of Joe Staley, Fragel can contribute as a swing tackle and extra TE on the jumbo packages. Lots of upside, but Fragel is inexperienced.

Trade: 6th round pick (via Browns) for 2014 5th round pick

R7: Ray Ray Armstrong - S - Miami (comp)
*Drafted based on potential, Armstrong has ability to become a nice quality player in the league. But mental and off-field issues may prevent that from happening. Most likely ends up as a PS player.

R7: T.J. Moe - WR/PR/KR - Missouri (comp)
*All around good player with special teams ability. Stash him on the practice squad as a security blanket for Kyle Williams and LaMichael James.

Depth Chart:

QB: Kaepernick/McCoy*/Tolzien
RB: Gore/Hunter/James
FB: Miller/Dixon
TE: Davis/Kelce*/Celek

WR: Crabtree/Jenkins
WR: Boldin*/Moore*
WR: Hunter*/Williams (IR/PUP: Manningham)

LT: Staley/Fragel*
LG: Iupati/Looney
C: Goodwin/Kilgore
RG: Boone
RT: Davis

LE: Smith/Idonije*
NT: Dorsey*/Williams
RE: McDonald/Hughes*

OLB: Smith/Washington*
ILB: Willis/Wilhoite
ILB: Bowman/Skuta*
OLB: Brooks/Haralson/Fleming

CB: Asomugha*/Rogers/Slay*
CB: Brown/Culliver/Cox
FS: Reid*/Dahl
SS: Whitner/Spillman

ST: Dawson*, Lee, Jennings
I can't comment on all the picks cos I haven't done that much homework yet. However,I like the first 2 picks. But, you are assuming you can get Eric Reid at 31st which might not be doable.

I would trade up in the 1st to at least make sure I secure Justin Hunter. Keep the 34th pick to select Zach Ertz and then may be even to trade up in the 2nd for the second 2nd round pick to get David Amerson since I would have given up Eric Reid.
  • GEEK
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Originally posted by Rascal:
I can't comment on all the picks cos I haven't done that much homework yet. However,I like the first 2 picks. But, you are assuming you can get Eric Reid at 31st which might not be doable.

I would trade up in the 1st to at least make sure I secure Justin Hunter. Keep the 34th pick to select Zach Ertz and then may be even to trade up in the 2nd for the second 2nd round pick to get David Amerson since I would have given up Eric Reid.

All of it is assumptions - that's the basis of a mock plan.

While I like Ertz and Amerson, I think you are getting better value with Reid - especially since he's played FS at LSU - and Kelce. We don't need to burn a high pick on a #2 TE, especially if we are drafting Justin Hunter.
sign me up... I'm a fan of most of these picks...
  • teeohh
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Nice
Originally posted by GEEK:
Originally posted by Rascal:
I can't comment on all the picks cos I haven't done that much homework yet. However,I like the first 2 picks. But, you are assuming you can get Eric Reid at 31st which might not be doable.

I would trade up in the 1st to at least make sure I secure Justin Hunter. Keep the 34th pick to select Zach Ertz and then may be even to trade up in the 2nd for the second 2nd round pick to get David Amerson since I would have given up Eric Reid.

All of it is assumptions - that's the basis of a mock plan.

While I like Ertz and Amerson, I think you are getting better value with Reid - especially since he's played FS at LSU - and Kelce. We don't need to burn a high pick on a #2 TE, especially if we are drafting Justin Hunter.


I understand what you are saying. But, Amerson can play FS too if needed to be. Of course, the ideal scenario would be to have both which we can't. Also, there is a reason why I am placing so much emphasis on the offensive side of the ball cos I think the old adage of defense wins championship is passe in my humble opinion. I strongly believe we are just a couple of playmakers away to get us over the hump. Boldin + Hunter + Ertz will definitely take us over the edge. I just looked at Kelce's tape, not bad, but definitely no comparison to Ertz. Zach Ertz is far more atheltic, much faster with great hands. I think at the end of the day it really depends on what our objective is. If the goal is to "win now" at all cost, then we need both Hunter and Ertz. And I do strongly believe we must win now cos our key stars are aging already, namely Frank, Vernon and Pat.
Sorry. I would be super bummed with this draft.

Hunter and Kelce picks are ok.

Everyhting else would bum me out.
I really like to hate on most mock drafts. So im going to say it sucks and would never happen. Even though I really like it.
I'm not liking the 2nd round picks.... and waiting till round 3 to get a DL is a mistake.

Justin Hunter may be 6'4", but he doesn't play like a big receiver. He is a bean pole... not physical, will struggle against press coverage, won't be doing much as a blocker, and won't be running many underneath routes. He just looks too skinny on film, and I worry about injuries with him.

Slay isn't a bad CB. But we could do better by addressing the DL at that spot and picking a pure slot CB like B.W. Webb or Honey Badger in round 3.
Originally posted by blm7754:
I'm not liking the 2nd round picks.... and waiting till round 3 to get a DL is a mistake.

Justin Hunter may be 6'4", but he doesn't play like a big receiver. He is a bean pole... not physical, will struggle against press coverage, won't be doing much as a blocker, and won't be running many underneath routes. He just looks too skinny on film, and I worry about injuries with him.

Slay isn't a bad CB. But we could do better by addressing the DL at that spot and picking a pure slot CB like B.W. Webb or Honey Badger in round 3.


Justin Hunter is skinny, but so is Randy Moss. I think as long as he can go up to take the top off, he should be OK. There are more physical receivers, but I have to go with his upside. Keenan Allen is more physical, but he plays the slot and shorter routes a lot more. Hunter plays far more deep balls. Deep threat is what we need.
Originally posted by Rascal:
Justin Hunter is skinny, but so is Randy Moss. I think as long as he can go up to take the top off, he should be OK. There are more physical receivers, but I have to go with his upside. Keenan Allen is more physical, but he plays the slot and shorter routes a lot more. Hunter plays far more deep balls. Deep threat is what we need.

Moss is 15 lbs heavier and ran a 4.25 40 when he came into the league, compared to Hunter's 4.44. Moss on-the-field record in college is far superior to Hunter's as well. The similarities stop at their height.

There are more physical receivers with just as much speed (DaRick Rogers, Quinton Patton). They may or may-not be effective deep threats in the NFL (takes more than just speed), but at least they can do much more than just run deep routes.
Originally posted by Rascal:
Justin Hunter is skinny, but so is Randy Moss. I think as long as he can go up to take the top off, he should be OK. There are more physical receivers, but I have to go with his upside. Keenan Allen is more physical, but he plays the slot and shorter routes a lot more. Hunter plays far more deep balls. Deep threat is what we need.

They said the same thing about Chaz Schilens too. I think Hunter has total bust written all over him. He doesn't even fit this system, the guy is allergic to run-blocking, goes down way too easily after first contact and more of a body-catcher than anything else. I'd like to stay far, far away from him.
  • mayo49
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Nice mock. Love, the first 5 picks. I'd definetly cream my pants if it went down that way.
Even if Baalke can sign Idonije, I'd still like him to draft one of the top DL. Got to continue strengthening the defense via the draft. Not in favor of taking Hunter, especially that early. Agree w/Rogers/Patton-type guys...very tough guys who're not afraid to go over the middle...and they could well be available in 3rd rd. Love the Slay and Kelce picks.
Originally posted by blm7754:
Originally posted by Rascal:
Justin Hunter is skinny, but so is Randy Moss. I think as long as he can go up to take the top off, he should be OK. There are more physical receivers, but I have to go with his upside. Keenan Allen is more physical, but he plays the slot and shorter routes a lot more. Hunter plays far more deep balls. Deep threat is what we need.

Moss is 15 lbs heavier and ran a 4.25 40 when he came into the league, compared to Hunter's 4.44. Moss on-the-field record in college is far superior to Hunter's as well. The similarities stop at their height.

There are more physical receivers with just as much speed (DaRick Rogers, Quinton Patton). They may or may-not be effective deep threats in the NFL (takes more than just speed), but at least they can do much more than just run deep routes.

I wasn't comparing Hunter with Moss, only to say being a little skinny is not a problem.

Hunter can also run other routes more than just plaing the deep ball. But, deep threat is definitely our priority. Not sure whether he will go in the 1st, but I will take him after Patterson and Austin I don't want. If Hunter can be had at 34th I am cool wth that,

If that's the case, then I will take either Eifert or Ertz in the 1st.
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