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Being Trent Baalke
Apr 3, 2013 at 3:13 PM
- tatdwolf49
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Yea uummm h*ll to tha no ...
Apr 3, 2013 at 3:39 PM
- highway49
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Well said and thought out,imo. Somethin like this could go down with TB &co....
Apr 3, 2013 at 3:46 PM
- AllTimeGreat
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Oh I see what you did here. Another mock draft disguised under a creative thread title. And here I thought you had made the sequel to Being John Malkovich.
Apr 3, 2013 at 3:52 PM
- ChipDouglas510
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I wouldn't mind K Allen at all
Apr 3, 2013 at 6:03 PM
- Travisty13
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Originally posted by smithc28:
#61 Vance Mcdonald TE (erm, hopefully will land here)
Replacing - Delanie Walker
Definite starting no.2 TE this year, he's Delanie Walker with vertical threat. All rounder "Swiss army knife", good blocker, played WR, drops catches whats not to love. Good upside most likely won't reach the level that Vernons on but will surpass the level Delanies on.
Watch the video and imagine the fun Roman would have with this guy on the field.
http://youtu.be/tQq9Z4-TcC4
Bolded, think you answered your own question with this statement. Knock on McDonald is that he drops catchable balls to much. People hated Delanie for doing the same thing. Why would we love that McDonald does that also?
Apr 3, 2013 at 6:13 PM
- LasVegasWally
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I agree resigning Crabtre will be a b***h. Getting a potential replacement is smart.
I see Justin finishing his days here and I like Sly Williams.
I see Justin finishing his days here and I like Sly Williams.
Apr 3, 2013 at 6:15 PM
- ElephantHaley
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I hope to god the 9ers keep & resign Terell Brown, outside of Bowman,Willis & Aldon ,hes our best defender
Apr 3, 2013 at 6:33 PM
- Travisty13
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Makes me laugh you picked Zeke Motta and said "good in coverage" and have him going in the 3rd. Most sites I've seen have him going 5th at the highest and more in the 6-7th round.
Weaknesses according to different sites:
Weaknesses according to different sites:
WEAKNESSES: Better when facing the quarterback than with his back turned. Was rarely challenged over the top due to Notre Dame's terrific pass rush, hiding a lack of ideal hip fluidity and straight-line speed. Consistently tackles high and though he generally wraps both arms, can see his efforts slip away as stronger backs continue to churn their feet.
Compares to: Craig Dahl, SS, St. Louis Rams
WEAKNESSES Straight-line speed and change of direction ability questionable. Could be challenged by NFL receivers downfield. Does not have range to be a single-deep threat and lacks great closing speed to to make a play against multiple vertical routes. Has not made many plays in coverage. Needs to prove he can track the ball in the air to knock passes away without interfering and make the moderate-to-difficult interceptions. Often in a deep position, needs to show scouts he can flip his hips open to run with receivers downfield.
NFL COMPARISON Eric Smith
The postseason hasn't really been any better. Motta had a mixed performance at the East-West Shrine and ran the slowest 40 time of any safety at the Combine. For the NFL, he looks like a backup safety and a special teams contributor. Motta lacks ball skills and play-making ability. He is best in run support near the line of scrimmage.
His speed really limits him at the next level (slower than Manti Te'o, even), and while he is explosive and can hit people, I'm not sure he's a full-time starter at safety in the NFL. He was really exposed by Alabama in the national championship game. He is going to be a key special teams player probably and will be in a safety rotation for some team, but I think you can snatch him up in the later rounds and get a guy who can be a key contributor rather than a full-time starter.
NFL Network's Mike Mayock initially pegged Motta as a top-five safety in the 2013 draft class. He's more likely to be about the 10th or 12th safety drafted. Motta struggles in coverage.
Apr 4, 2013 at 12:10 AM
- smithc28
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Originally posted by Travisty13:
Bolded, think you answered your own question with this statement. Knock on McDonald is that he drops catchable balls to much. People hated Delanie for doing the same thing. Why would we love that McDonald does that also?
But we also loved Delanie and working on catching is coachable and he does everything else you need.
Originally posted by Travisty13:
Makes me laugh you picked Zeke Motta and said "good in coverage" and have him going in the 3rd. Most sites I've seen have him going 5th at the highest and more in the 6-7th round.
Weaknesses according to different sites:
WEAKNESSES: Better when facing the quarterback than with his back turned. Was rarely challenged over the top due to Notre Dame's terrific pass rush, hiding a lack of ideal hip fluidity and straight-line speed. Consistently tackles high and though he generally wraps both arms, can see his efforts slip away as stronger backs continue to churn their feet.
Compares to: Craig Dahl, SS, St. Louis Rams
WEAKNESSES Straight-line speed and change of direction ability questionable. Could be challenged by NFL receivers downfield. Does not have range to be a single-deep threat and lacks great closing speed to to make a play against multiple vertical routes. Has not made many plays in coverage. Needs to prove he can track the ball in the air to knock passes away without interfering and make the moderate-to-difficult interceptions. Often in a deep position, needs to show scouts he can flip his hips open to run with receivers downfield.
NFL COMPARISON Eric Smith
The postseason hasn't really been any better. Motta had a mixed performance at the East-West Shrine and ran the slowest 40 time of any safety at the Combine. For the NFL, he looks like a backup safety and a special teams contributor. Motta lacks ball skills and play-making ability. He is best in run support near the line of scrimmage.
His speed really limits him at the next level (slower than Manti Te'o, even), and while he is explosive and can hit people, I'm not sure he's a full-time starter at safety in the NFL. He was really exposed by Alabama in the national championship game. He is going to be a key special teams player probably and will be in a safety rotation for some team, but I think you can snatch him up in the later rounds and get a guy who can be a key contributor rather than a full-time starter.
NFL Network's Mike Mayock initially pegged Motta as a top-five safety in the 2013 draft class. He's more likely to be about the 10th or 12th safety drafted. Motta struggles in coverage.
You know everyone has different views on where players will be picked ranging from 3rd to 6th round. I just like this guy and his names Zeke.
Originally posted by highway49:
Well said and thought out,imo. Somethin like this could go down with TB &co....
Thanks I was going more for how the draft will go down than who will be picked. I don't believe a starting nose and a starting FS will be chosen in the first 3 rounds. My picks are more just alternative ones that seem less chosen on mocks drafts. Some seem like reaches some will be roughly where they will fall
Apr 4, 2013 at 4:37 PM
- oldninerdude
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I really like what you did here.
One thing we've seen from Baalke: he's not necessarily going to do the simplistic, expected things that the talking heads are predicting.
He always seems to have some plan of attack that he follows through with, that he's able to execute.
Then he catches a bunch of flack on this board because he didn't do all the stuff that everyone expected.
It seems easy enough to pick out a potential weakness or "need" and then pick the highest ranked guy of choice to fill that need, without any thought for the bigger picture of the direction the team is heading, the coaching philosophy, and the need to prepare for the future.
I have no idea if your scenario is similar to what Baalke is planning, but it does show that there are entirely different ways to plan for the draft, and that a really smart GM may be thinking way ahead of the rest of us. Its fun to try to figure out what Baalke's planning.
One thing we've seen from Baalke: he's not necessarily going to do the simplistic, expected things that the talking heads are predicting.
He always seems to have some plan of attack that he follows through with, that he's able to execute.
Then he catches a bunch of flack on this board because he didn't do all the stuff that everyone expected.
It seems easy enough to pick out a potential weakness or "need" and then pick the highest ranked guy of choice to fill that need, without any thought for the bigger picture of the direction the team is heading, the coaching philosophy, and the need to prepare for the future.
I have no idea if your scenario is similar to what Baalke is planning, but it does show that there are entirely different ways to plan for the draft, and that a really smart GM may be thinking way ahead of the rest of us. Its fun to try to figure out what Baalke's planning.
[ Edited by oldninerdude on Apr 4, 2013 at 4:38 PM ]