NC's Mock V1.0 3/20/2013

I just can't see us taking a TE first.

Not bad buddy.

Originally posted by jrg:
I just can't see us taking a TE first.

I cant see what we do after Aldon Smith and AJ Jenkins picks. Who knows what happens with Baalke. I honestly do not know what to expect.

I thought we had the 105th pick from Buffalo, but you still mocked us the 128th. (just an observation)

I like the early picks and the trades seem realistic.

I'm not going to get too nitpicky because obviously not every WZer is going to have the same idea of a perfect mock. That's what makes your mock yours and my mock mine. I like most of the players you took. I personally hate the idea of parlaying a high-end 2013 asset into a high-end 2014 asset; we're not a rebuilding team, we're a contending team that should LOAD UP. But I digress. It's a reasonable course of action and I can see it in the realm of possibility.

But I will say I think your mock overall suffers from a systematic misjudgment of priorities. A TE in the high 2nd? Kind of a luxury pick. A C in the 3rd? A fine player, but not a need. No S until the late 3rd? Do you want to risk Craig Dahl winning that starting spot? An MLB in the 4th? We're stronger at MLB than any team is at any position. We have two all-pros and just signed Skuta as primary backup. We have longtime fringe players in Gooden and Wilhoite. Now, my mock has us replacing the latter two with a late-rounder, but using a 4th is just silly.

The way I see it, sure we can go "BPA," but barring an insane value by an insane draft-day slide, you want to focus your premium picks on areas with your most urgent needs. Safeties and DL should rise toward the top for us. Luxury offensive backups should be an afterthought.

Originally posted by jrg:
I just can't see us taking a TE first.

TE is a underrated need. We run a lot of 2 TE sets so if we just have one talented TE roman will have to close up a lot of his playbook

I don't understand why we traded a 1st round pick for a 2nd round pick next yr ????

Originally posted by LieutKaffee:
I'm not going to get too nitpicky because obviously not every WZer is going to have the same idea of a perfect mock. That's what makes your mock yours and my mock mine. I like most of the players you took. I personally hate the idea of parlaying a high-end 2013 asset into a high-end 2014 asset; we're not a rebuilding team, we're a contending team that should LOAD UP. But I digress. It's a reasonable course of action and I can see it in the realm of possibility.

But I will say I think your mock overall suffers from a systematic misjudgment of priorities. A TE in the high 2nd? Kind of a luxury pick. A C in the 3rd? A fine player, but not a need. No S until the late 3rd? Do you want to risk Craig Dahl winning that starting spot? An MLB in the 4th? We're stronger at MLB than any team is at any position. We have two all-pros and just signed Skuta as primary backup. We have longtime fringe players in Gooden and Wilhoite. Now, my mock has us replacing the latter two with a late-rounder, but using a 4th is just silly.

The way I see it, sure we can go "BPA," but barring an insane value by an insane draft-day slide, you want to focus your premium picks on areas with your most urgent needs. Safeties and DL should rise toward the top for us. Luxury offensive backups should be an afterthought.

I am very understanding on your comment towards the mock but what I am trying to do is not think as how other GM's and draft analyst think. I am trying to think how Baalke thinks (which is hard). I understand you guys want to use our early picks on position of need but take a look at the LMJ pick in the 2nd round. That was not a position of need pick. I am trying to do this draft based on BPA and value at the same time. Baalke's drafts are not sexy but they have been successful. The MLB spot can become an issue... Gooden and Grant are FA's and if something were to happen between Willis or Bowman where you got to have Skuta as a filler I am not going to be comfortable. I want a guy groomed to play MLB to take his role. If you have Skuta as a replacement then he has to be replaced on SPT. The draft is deep at safety and yes we may take one earlier but who knows and we may find a valued pick in with DJ sitting right there. I am not knocking your thoughts but I am just defending mine. Thanks for your response and advise. Anything could happen! I you and other people see it the way I do. The next mock I do I will not be trading out of the 1st round but it will be a few weeks before I do it. Maybe fans will like it better? Like I said this is the 1st mock I done with trades.

Originally posted by tatdwolf49:
I don't understand why we traded a 1st round pick for a 2nd round pick next yr ????

NE traded their 31'st pick for Tampa's 2nd and 4th last draft. I just threw in a extra pick in their to compensate (2nd, 4th, and a 6th). We could get a first but who knows.

Originally posted by SFL49ER:
I thought we had the 105th pick from Buffalo, but you still mocked us the 128th. (just an observation)

I like the early picks and the trades seem realistic.

We did that is my error. I will fix it! Thanks.

Yeah I dont see tight end as a need that is big enough to be worthy of a first round pick. Rath er get one in mid rounds if value is right. Personaly id like to see a safety or dlinemen with 1st pick if value is right. Having said that I think your mock is realistic and we very well may draft ertz because were not really expecting that or it doesnt appear to be one of our bigger needs. Harbaalke are known to surprise.

Nice try BUT trying to think like Trent is real tough.

Overall, I like some of the players BUT TE in the 1st No Good. If he's the BPA - I'd trade out of the spot.

Not going to try to tear it apart.

DLINE, DLINE, DLINE is my thought process after watching us lose Justin.

Just imagine what it will look like if he or Ray Mac goes down in the first game. We have Zero to step in and up to perform - we need to get the best one's we can assoon as possible.

Originally posted by LasVegasWally:
Nice try BUT trying to think like Trent is real tough.

Overall, I like some of the players BUT TE in the 1st No Good. If he's the BPA - I'd trade out of the spot.

Not going to try to tear it apart.

DLINE, DLINE, DLINE is my thought process after watching us lose Justin.

Just imagine what it will look like if he or Ray Mac goes down in the first game. We have Zero to step in and up to perform - we need to get the best one's we can assoon as possible.

Not sure if you actually took the time and read my mock. I already traded out of the 1st to begin with and made my first pick in the 2nd round at 34 to grab Ertz and then used our 2nd second round pick to grab DL Brandon Williams. I also got Kapron Lewis-Moore in the 5th at DL. After signing Dorsey what more do you want. I think there is the depth right there as well as Dobbs (a lot of people seem to not remember him lately) returning. So what you see is J. Smith, McDonald, Dorsey, Dobbs, B. Williams, K. Lewis-Moore. Not to mention the UDFA's we will bring in. If you have something better I am all ears.

No no no dont quit your day job

Originally posted by Rgonelove:
No no no dont quit your day job

I do not plan on it. I am working right now as we speak. If you got better suggestions lets hear them.