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D-Money's 3 of (a kind) 5 mock draft and offseason- prior to FA!!!
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Mar 10, 2013 at 8:45 PM
- Norwalks_Best
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Worst Mock Draft Ive seen
Mar 10, 2013 at 8:57 PM
- eonblue
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I actually like this mock a lot. Your Jesse Williams is the next Justin Smith made me laugh but I do think he has the potential to be a.great NT. Your not resigning Walker yet your picking another safety with the 3rd round pick. That's where the bread and butter is for TE. It would be much better to draft a position of need then to double up on a position. Mcdonald looks like a LB too. We need coverage skills in a safety not a tackler that get caught in play action to much.
Mar 10, 2013 at 9:19 PM
- tatdwolf49
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Luv tha Rhodes pick he's my favorite CB also not high on cyprien I hate players that show well great workout N jump up way to many rounds ...I've been looking at FS/SS N I tell u its hard to really pick one that doesn't have as many bad hits as he does good things still doin my own mock N ain't found one I luv
Mar 10, 2013 at 9:19 PM
- m_brockalexander
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Agree with most of your handling of the current roster and the Cyprien, Williams, Q. Smith and Hopkins picks.
I don't think Rhodes will make it past the Bucs at pick #13, especially if they pass on a trade for Revis or sign another free agent. If Goldson goes in free agency and Rogers is cut, I think we need better coverage players than McDonald and a 7th round CB to help our secondary.
I don't think Rhodes will make it past the Bucs at pick #13, especially if they pass on a trade for Revis or sign another free agent. If Goldson goes in free agency and Rogers is cut, I think we need better coverage players than McDonald and a 7th round CB to help our secondary.
Mar 10, 2013 at 9:35 PM
- D-Money
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Originally posted by Norwalks_Best:Worst Mock Draft Ive seen
You suck
Originally posted by eonblue:I actually like this mock a lot. Your Jesse Williams is the next Justin Smith made me laugh but I do think he has the potential to be a.great NT. Your not resigning Walker yet your picking another safety with the 3rd round pick. That's where the bread and butter is for TE. It would be much better to draft a position of need then to double up on a position. Mcdonald looks like a LB too. We need coverage skills in a safety not a tackler that get caught in play action to much.
Agree with the TE pick. I just couldn't fit the right one in. I guess I could've got one in the third but decided to trade that pick for 2nd next year.
Originally posted by tatdwolf49:Luv tha Rhodes pick he's my favorite CB also not high on cyprien I hate players that show well great workout N jump up way to many rounds ...I've been looking at FS/SS N I tell u its hard to really pick one that doesn't have as many bad hits as he does good things still doin my own mock N ain't found one I luv
Thanks man, but Cyrien is legit and the senior bowl proved that to me watch some of his tape against some of the higher competition he played against, and you should be impressed.
Originally posted by m_brockalexander:Agree with most of your handling of the current roster and the Cyprien, Williams, Q. Smith and Hopkins picks.
I don't think Rhodes will make it past the Bucs at pick #13, especially if they pass on a trade for Revis or sign another free agent. If Goldson goes in free agency and Rogers is cut, I think we need better coverage players than McDonald and a 7th round CB to help our secondary.
Thanks Brock, I see Tampa there but I think they take Trufant because of his bloodlines and his solid showing during the combine and senior bowl. I believe a defensive backfield of Culliver, Brown, And Rhodes being the top three corners as good enough. Also the depth and quality of safeties in Whitner, McDonald. Cyprien, and Spillman being plenty good. At least it helps with the loss of Goldson as he really is the best safety on the market.
Mar 10, 2013 at 9:47 PM
- RishikeshA
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Many good things in your draft. Rhodes could gain some momentum and move up. The secondary would be covered and the DL also. Most of the mocks I've seen on the Zone are quite good, that tells you that it's a pretty good draft from 15 - 50. Could Baalke make a move into the upper reaches of the draft?
Mar 10, 2013 at 9:52 PM
- martysofresh
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Originally posted by m_brockalexander:
Agree with most of your handling of the current roster and the Cyprien, Williams, Q. Smith and Hopkins picks.
I don't think Rhodes will make it past the Bucs at pick #13, especially if they pass on a trade for Revis or sign another free agent. If Goldson goes in free agency and Rogers is cut, I think we need better coverage players than McDonald and a 7th round CB to help our secondary.
with being able to trade for revis or sign sean smith or chris gamble, I doubt they pass on one to draft a CB at 13. One of the three will happen.
Adding Rhodes to Cully, Brown and Rogers and then having Adams in there would be alright for the secondary. Adams used to be the number 1 Cb of the class but got plagued by injuries and other players blew up. Could be this years C.Hayward. We could still get a decent CB w/o trading up tho. I heard McDonald isnt that great in covarage as well, but i think he could be a nice back up. Ideally, I see us signing a FS and TJMac being the back up FS. If we're trading up to 24, its for Vaccaro or Reid tho since its looking like Goldson is gone.
[ Edited by martysofresh on Mar 10, 2013 at 10:01 PM ]
Mar 10, 2013 at 11:47 PM
- suckafree17
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Not sure if Indy would want to trade out
Mar 11, 2013 at 6:03 AM
- niners9
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Good mock, I like most of the players you picked. The one thing I would change is the McDonald pick. I like him, but since you pick Cyprien in 2nd I think we should use that for a different position, TE or OL.
[ Edited by niners9 on Mar 11, 2013 at 8:54 AM ]
Mar 11, 2013 at 6:29 AM
- m_brockalexander
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Originally posted by martysofresh:Originally posted by m_brockalexander:Agree with most of your handling of the current roster and the Cyprien, Williams, Q. Smith and Hopkins picks.
I don't think Rhodes will make it past the Bucs at pick #13, especially if they pass on a trade for Revis or sign another free agent. If Goldson goes in free agency and Rogers is cut, I think we need better coverage players than McDonald and a 7th round CB to help our secondary.
with being able to trade for revis or sign sean smith or chris gamble, I doubt they pass on one to draft a CB at 13. One of the three will happen.
Adding Rhodes to Cully, Brown and Rogers and then having Adams in there would be alright for the secondary. Adams used to be the number 1 Cb of the class but got plagued by injuries and other players blew up. Could be this years C.Hayward. We could still get a decent CB w/o trading up tho. I heard McDonald isnt that great in covarage as well, but i think he could be a nice back up. Ideally, I see us signing a FS and TJMac being the back up FS. If we're trading up to 24, its for Vaccaro or Reid tho since its looking like Goldson is gone.
I wouldn't assume that Tampa only needs one CB. They were the best defense against the run and still finished #31 in total defense. They were that bad. Just saying.......
Mar 11, 2013 at 7:51 AM
- Paul_Hofer
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I really think that many on the WZ are hypnotized by the Super Bowl loss. Six defensive players vs. 2 offensive and 1 kicker?
Mar 11, 2013 at 7:58 AM
- kentc1978
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Originally posted by Paul_Hofer:
I really think that many on the WZ are hypnotized by the Super Bowl loss. Six defensive players vs. 2 offensive and 1 kicker?
It wasn't just the SB. Atlanta exposed our secondary as well.
Mar 11, 2013 at 8:04 AM
- dtg_9er
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I like this group of players and the idea of drafting heavily in one area always appeals to me. Three DBs in the first 3 rounds may seem a bit much but the secondary has been our Achilles heel for a few years now. Donatell and Fangio have managed to get the most out of our current players, but now is the time to jump up and fix the defensive backfield for years to come.
They have the picks, the secondary is strong in this draft...and Jesse Williams with the second pick would help the line. If they can pick up a couple of FAs (WR, DL) then the world will be rosy!
They have the picks, the secondary is strong in this draft...and Jesse Williams with the second pick would help the line. If they can pick up a couple of FAs (WR, DL) then the world will be rosy!
Mar 11, 2013 at 8:50 AM
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What a waste of draft picks mock....
The value in this draft is in pick 10-100. It is a very flat draft. Trading up is crazy, teams are begging to trade down because the talent is very much the same across the board.
Two safeties
No one to rush the passer
No TE to replace walker
No developmental qb
Cutting a player in Rogers who will cost us lots of dead money, and then using three draft picks to trade up to grab a cb.... let that sink in. That 4th rounder is so valuable, Toliolo, Schwenke, lots of starting talent can be had at the bottome of round 4.
The value in this draft is in pick 10-100. It is a very flat draft. Trading up is crazy, teams are begging to trade down because the talent is very much the same across the board.
Two safeties
No one to rush the passer
No TE to replace walker
No developmental qb
Cutting a player in Rogers who will cost us lots of dead money, and then using three draft picks to trade up to grab a cb.... let that sink in. That 4th rounder is so valuable, Toliolo, Schwenke, lots of starting talent can be had at the bottome of round 4.
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