Originally posted by eonblue:
My indictment was not of B Williams but the analysts mock. I guranteed the FO would not pick Jesse Williams or Brandon Williams but to clarify my point I don't think the office would spend valuable early picks on a position that spends minimal time on the field unless thw player is dynamic. In this case a NT that can rush the passer. You raised a good point by addressing Brandons statistics which reflect his ability to create pressure but the stats lose value because he couldn't replicate that pressure against stronger competition. I only called the players he faced at senior bowl novice because in comparison to the players he will face in the NFL they're all novices. If had problems against the amateurs I doubt he will suddenly.start penetrating the pocket against professionals in the NFL. I'm not saying he's a terrible player and I would be excited to have him in the team and learning from Tomsula and Justin Smith. I just think your devaluing an early pick by picking a player that from all indications will only be able to contribute 30% of the time. A nickle corner, safety, or wr would have the opportunity to produce more and therefore in my eyes seem like better choices. Even Jenkins and Hankins would be better candidates because they have a more dynamic skillset. Anyways if something in my response isnt satisfying then feel free not respond. I wont quote you. Im pretty sure you qouted me first so I was just explaining myself but I my point shoukd be pretty apparent.
I would pick williams with the Caro 3rd.
The real difference lies in our evaluations of Brandon Williams.
It is commonly known that most scouts leave the Senior Bowl leave before the game is actually played. They leave before the game precisely because the game itself is the least important element at the Senior Bowl.
Brandon Williams had, other than the first day, a solid senior bowl week. In the practices and individual match ups, he showed that his skill set was on par with the big boys. I will agree that during the game itself, Williams did not play well. But, the fact is that you are putting an excessive import on the game, the same game that the vast majority of professionals do not bother to watch.
You state that his stats lose value because he could not replicate that pressure against stronger competition in the Senior Bowl game. Again that failure only occurred in the game itself, not in the drills and practices leading up to the game.
In fact, the general consensus was at the Senior Bowl Brandon Williams proved he belonged with the big boys. Scouts and reporters commented about how nimble (quick and agile) and powerful this big man was.
At the combine, Williams next chance to compete with the big boys, he demonstrated that his physical attributes were on a par with the big boys. Except for his 40 yard time, his results in the events
were generally superior to the other defensive tackles at the combine. In the positional drills, Williams did well. He showed that his football skills were comparable to the competition.
In summary, except for the game the the professionals do not bother to watch, Williams has shown at the Senior Bowl and the Combine that he can compete with the big school boys. His performance at the combine and the Senior Bowl do not come close to showing that he will not be able to get to the quarterback in the future.
You have stated that you a visual learner. Apparently, Baalke is also a visual learner. He has stated very clearly that the game tape of a player over the length of his career
is more important than the Senior Bowl and the Combine.
There is a predictive tool, the Production Ratio, that uses a players college sacks to predict how dynamic a player will be in the NFL.
Any score over 1.00 is good.
Aldon Smith had a 2.00; JJ Watt a 1.85; Von Miller a1.78. DeMarcus Ware, like Brandon Williams a small school player, had a 1.96.
Brandon Williams had a 1.85. Kwann Short a 1.33. Sylvester Williams a 1.16 and John Jenkins a 0.44.
I have my opinion, you have yours.
[ Edited by buck on Mar 10, 2013 at 01:52:00 ]