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Mar 6, 2013 at 9:10 AM
- fan49
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Te in second when we resign walker..... waste of pick. Get a rec there
Mar 6, 2013 at 9:11 AM
- fan49
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On the list of needs after signing walker te would be dead last
Mar 6, 2013 at 9:28 AM
- Mr.Mcgibblets
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Yeah, I like most of what you did here, but let Walker take a ... walk.
Mar 6, 2013 at 9:41 AM
- NinerFan408
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We trade our 3B and 7B pick to Minn for pick 23.
Huh?
Mar 6, 2013 at 9:42 AM
- English
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Tebow. No.
Mar 6, 2013 at 10:11 AM
- mebemused
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Are sure that the #94 (3b) plus a 7th is enough to move up 8 spots in the first?
Some position rankings have Margus Hunt above Datone Jones. Obviously, you have a jones for Jones. One or the other may fall to #31 or in Hunt's case #34, cause of his age and lack of football experience.
With the #94 pick, we might be able to take:
• Jamar Taylor CB - can compete with Culliver right away.
• Brandon Williams DT a good candidate for NT
• William Gholston DE (While Gholston isn't as talented as Datone Jones, is Datone Jones as good as William Gholston + Jamar Taylor, a fast CB, 4.32 40, who is good in coverage and not afraid to tackle? )
• Marcus Lattimore RB (Perhaps the second coming of Frank Gore?) Most value charts I'm seeing have him between 90 and 100. Won't last till our 4th comp unless he doesn't check out medically.)
Scenario 1:
My preference is obviously draft BPA at #31, Margus Hunt at #34 and Jamar Taylor at #94. (We might have to move up a few spots by burning a late round pick to take Jamar Taylor.
Scenario 2a:
If we've taken a CB at #31, say Slay or Trufant (doubtful), and Philip Thomas S at #61
and Lattimore checks out, than take Lattimore at #94 if you like.
Either way, we've strengthened our secondary, our pass rush, (as a rookie, Hunt can spell Cowboy while he apprentices) and we found Gore's replacement.
Scenario 2b:
Or, take Brandon Williams at NT, and have an immediate upgrade over Soap. I actually like this the best, because Williams is quicker than Soap and would do a better job of collapsing the middle of the pocket. That would make it harder to double team out DEs. Which would make it easier for our OLBs to get sacks, and not expose our secondary as much.
Some position rankings have Margus Hunt above Datone Jones. Obviously, you have a jones for Jones. One or the other may fall to #31 or in Hunt's case #34, cause of his age and lack of football experience.
With the #94 pick, we might be able to take:
• Jamar Taylor CB - can compete with Culliver right away.
• Brandon Williams DT a good candidate for NT
• William Gholston DE (While Gholston isn't as talented as Datone Jones, is Datone Jones as good as William Gholston + Jamar Taylor, a fast CB, 4.32 40, who is good in coverage and not afraid to tackle? )
• Marcus Lattimore RB (Perhaps the second coming of Frank Gore?) Most value charts I'm seeing have him between 90 and 100. Won't last till our 4th comp unless he doesn't check out medically.)
Scenario 1:
My preference is obviously draft BPA at #31, Margus Hunt at #34 and Jamar Taylor at #94. (We might have to move up a few spots by burning a late round pick to take Jamar Taylor.
Scenario 2a:
If we've taken a CB at #31, say Slay or Trufant (doubtful), and Philip Thomas S at #61
and Lattimore checks out, than take Lattimore at #94 if you like.Either way, we've strengthened our secondary, our pass rush, (as a rookie, Hunt can spell Cowboy while he apprentices) and we found Gore's replacement.
Scenario 2b:
Or, take Brandon Williams at NT, and have an immediate upgrade over Soap. I actually like this the best, because Williams is quicker than Soap and would do a better job of collapsing the middle of the pocket. That would make it harder to double team out DEs. Which would make it easier for our OLBs to get sacks, and not expose our secondary as much.
Mar 6, 2013 at 10:23 AM
- jobiwon
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First, I left out a number, its our first , our second third, and our second seventh to move to 23. It's close using the trade value chart but we may need to throw in our 6th also.
I had soured for awhile on Walker after watching him drop passes. I think he'll rebound though. He's so valuable being versatile and with his blocking. I think we'll keep him as a second FB/HB type. We need another true route running tall TE. We'll see more 2 and even 3 TE sets. I see us keeping 2 FB's and 3 TE's and only 5 WR's in the future based on what Harbaugh likes to do.
I'm not a Tebow fan, but I could see it as a possibilty of someone to come in as the backup that could run the run option. If Harbaugh can improve his passing, we then trade him in the future. We most likey will get a different QB like Johnson or one in the draft.
I had soured for awhile on Walker after watching him drop passes. I think he'll rebound though. He's so valuable being versatile and with his blocking. I think we'll keep him as a second FB/HB type. We need another true route running tall TE. We'll see more 2 and even 3 TE sets. I see us keeping 2 FB's and 3 TE's and only 5 WR's in the future based on what Harbaugh likes to do.
I'm not a Tebow fan, but I could see it as a possibilty of someone to come in as the backup that could run the run option. If Harbaugh can improve his passing, we then trade him in the future. We most likey will get a different QB like Johnson or one in the draft.
[ Edited by jobiwon on Mar 6, 2013 at 10:42 AM ]
Mar 6, 2013 at 3:00 PM
- Paul_Hofer
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WRs
Crabtree
Barden/Nelson
AJ Jenkins
Crabtree
Barden/Nelson
AJ Jenkins
?
Mar 6, 2013 at 5:24 PM
- jobiwon
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WRs
Crabtree
Barden/Nelson
AJ Jenkins
Manningham
Williams
maybe: Lockette
Crabtree
Barden/Nelson
AJ Jenkins
Manningham
Williams
maybe: Lockette
Mar 6, 2013 at 5:37 PM
- Paul_Hofer
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Originally posted by jobiwon:?
WRs
Crabtree
Barden/Nelson
AJ Jenkins?
Manningham?
Williams?
maybe: Lockette???
Mar 6, 2013 at 6:03 PM
- m_brockalexander
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Originally posted by jobiwon:
WRs
Crabtree
Barden/Nelson
AJ Jenkins
Manningham
Williams
maybe: Lockette
Don't think you can rely on Manningham being ready for the start of the season. Barden or Nelson aren't exactly the greatest of options and financially would probably cost more than draft picks. My feeling is that the Niners need one big WR with speed in the draft plus another slot WR type with special teams ability.
Mar 6, 2013 at 7:16 PM
- 9ersLiferInChicago
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Mar 6, 2013 at 7:58 PM
- jobiwon
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Most of the time we'll only have two WR's on the field with mutiple TE sets. Look for Walker, VD, and Ertz in the slot also. If we get Nelson, he did real weel from the slot in Buffalo.