D-Money's 2nd Mock Draft of the Offseason!!!

That's a lot of picks for one guy. Why not just trade Alex to the raiders?

I just heard recently that the raiders are still invested in Palmer, and until they get an oline and a defense I honestly don't think he's the problem either.
I just look at the impact Julio Jones made for ATL and I believe Star can be that one guy we need to get over the hump. I don't understand why people think we need so much help everywhere. Get younger and better at the same time should be the approach. Our team is ready right now as it is without adding anybody, by adding an all Star we can get back to the SB and win it!

Seven picks for a defensive tackle? Lotuleilei is a good player, but is he worth an entire draft's worth of picks? Sorry, but I don't buy it.

The rest of your draft has some great picks between the late 3rd through the 6th (Faulk, Hopkins, and Sorenson).

Yeah that trade is crazy....IMO way too many picks given up.

I mean if we really want to break it down were trading 4 picks for #3 overall as the two 6th and the 7th rounder probably won't make our team anyways. I just like the fact that it's basically the same amount and same placement of where our picks would be if we didn't have so many extra picks. We're still drafting 10 players this year and still the last 3 will have trouble cracking the roster. Is getting the best defensive player in the draft worth trading four* picks? I believe so. Would he make our defense dominant again? again I gotta believe so. If we can control the line of scrimmage, we will win the games. Quality over quantity was the motto in this draft, we need depth throughout our roster but most of the starting roles are locked up, there is a glaring hole at NT/DT that we can fill with a straight savage. I know everyone wasn't going to like the trade but it is something we should strongly consider..

All that glitters isn't gold.

http://www.bleedinggreennation.com/2013/2/12/3981706/2013-nfl-draft-has-star-lotulelei-become-overrated

Personally,

I'd MUCH rather work some trades to get Floyd. Then, we'd have more left over to aquire better talent.

Faulk is an interesting pick and I'm looking forward to learning more about him.

Really like Hopkins int eh5th and Sorrenson later.

I also feel we shoud package our 7th rounders and move on up

Originally posted by LasVegasWally:
All that glitters isn't gold.

http://www.bleedinggreennation.com/2013/2/12/3981706/2013-nfl-draft-has-star-lotulelei-become-overrated

Personally,

I'd MUCH rather work some trades to get Floyd. Then, we'd have more left over to aquire better talent.

Faulk is an interesting pick and I'm looking forward to learning more about him.

Really like Hopkins int eh5th and Sorrenson later.

I also feel we shoud package our 7th rounders and move on up

I would rather give up less to trade up for Floyd. Not backed up by facts or stats (who needs those anyway?) but I feel like DL has one of the higher bust rates in the draft.

Thank god you are not the GM. You want to give up way to much for one player. Look at New Orleans and the Ricky Williams deal, or look atReggie Bush. There is no SURE thing in the draft. Giving up the 2014 first round pick wanted to make me puke. Give up a pick in a more talented draft, pure genius.

Originally posted by m_brockalexander:
Seven picks for a defensive tackle? Lotuleilei is a good player, but is he worth an entire draft's worth of picks? Sorry, but I don't buy it.

The rest of your draft has some great picks between the late 3rd through the 6th (Faulk, Hopkins, and Sorenson).

cosign

Originally posted by 9erred:

Thank god you are not the GM. You want to give up way to much for one player. Look at New Orleans and the Ricky Williams deal, or look atReggie Bush. There is no SURE thing in the draft. Giving up the 2014 first round pick wanted to make me puke. Give up a pick in a more talented draft, pure genius.

This is more of a Julio Jones type deal and with the new draft slot salary for rookies it takes more to move up. I think you missed the point that were trying to go back to the Super Bowl. Why wait for next year? This is outside the box thinking. And I expected most of you if not all to be against it. But realistically this is what it takes to move up. I think if you can get one all pro type player every year you had a good draft. If you want a hole bunch of players that aren't going to make an impact go look at our draft from last year. This ensures we will get another foundation block for our team, he will put our defense over the top! To me thats a deal worth taking. As far as being the GM, I think all of us are entitled to our opinions on players and in the draft. So it's easy to say you suck as a wannabe GM as well. In the end ask yourself this question. Did our team improve through the draft and how much? With this draft yes we did. We got a stud Nt/DT and 3 other future starters, still don't see how that's bad draft. And for all those calling him overrated. Theres a big drop off from him and Floyd IMO.

Originally posted by D-Money:

Originally posted by 9erred:
Thank god you are not the GM. You want to give up way to much for one player. Look at New Orleans and the Ricky Williams deal, or look atReggie Bush. There is no SURE thing in the draft. Giving up the 2014 first round pick wanted to make me puke. Give up a pick in a more talented draft, pure genius.

This is more of a Julio Jones type deal and with the new draft slot salary for rookies it takes more to move up. I think you missed the point that were trying to go back to the Super Bowl. Why wait for next year? This is outside the box thinking. And I expected most of you if not all to be against it. But realistically this is what it takes to move up. I think if you can get one all pro type player every year you had a good draft. If you want a hole bunch of players that aren't going to make an impact go look at our draft from last year. This ensures we will get another foundation block for our team, he will put our defense over the top! To me thats a deal worth taking. As far as being the GM, I think all of us are entitled to our opinions on players and in the draft. So it's easy to say you suck as a wannabe GM as well. In the end ask yourself this question. Did our team improve through the draft and how much? With this draft yes we did. We got a stud Nt/DT and 3 other future starters, still don't see how that's bad draft. And for all those calling him overrated. Theres a big drop off from him and Floyd IMO.

I agree with quality of quantity and this was fine with me until you decided to throw in next years 1st rounder. Top player or not, he is not worth (2) 1st rounders, 2nd, 3rd, 2 6th, and a 7th rounder for the 3rd overall overall pick. there are always gems to be found outside of the first and for that fact at the end of the first round (Navarro Bowman).
I concurr with 9erred. If for some reason Star Lotiapicks fell to say 12-20 yes I agree with a move. Besides those picks of ours could be used to set us up for years to come, example last years 3rd round that got us 6 pick to include another 3rd. We could do that this year with our 2nd for a 1st this year. There is aggressive styles and loosing your @ss and getting fired styles. This is the later.

I don't like mocks with more than 1 modest trade. No way we a guy like Star Lotulelei. I agree he's a beast... possibly the best defender in this draft. I could see trading up as much as 10 spots to get him. But that won't be enough.

Time to get over the fact that as long as we are a good team, we won't be able to get the top draft talents. We will have to make do with developing 2nd tier talents and using our picks wisely.

Originally posted by blm7754:
I don't like mocks with more than 1 modest trade. No way we a guy like Star Lotulelei. I agree he's a beast... possibly the best defender in this draft. I could see trading up as much as 10 spots to get him. But that won't be enough.

Time to get over the fact that as long as we are a good team, we won't be able to get the top draft talents. We will have to make do with developing 2nd tier talents and using our picks wisely.

We can depend on our scouts to find gems and bargains. Coaching them will take care of itself.

Didn't they say GlennDorsey was a beast and would be a game changer. So far that hasn't happened.

Poe hasn't shown up either.

Too much to give up for one guy who may not be as advertised.