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Feb 2, 2013 at 10:38 AM
- pete98146
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Heck I was doing a back flip when I saw Brandon Gibson! This kid is underrated. But he's developing good chemistry with Sam Bradford. Since the Rams are already weak at WR, I'd be surprised if they let him go....
Feb 2, 2013 at 10:40 AM
- pete98146
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Heck I was doing a back flip when I saw Brandon Gibson! This kid is underrated. But he's developing good chemistry with Sam Bradford. Since the Rams are already weak at WR, I'd be surprised if they let him go....
Feb 2, 2013 at 12:37 PM
- Phoenix49ers
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Originally posted by GhostofFredDean74:
Part of it is a reaction to the market; more teams are going to the 3-4 and 6'4", 330ish quality NTs are at a premium. Another part of it is the combination of power, strength and quickness that he shows. He's got a really quick first step for a big man and holds up well against double teams...that will attract a lot of attention from teams looking to beef up their d-line. But again, my mock is super early and I'm projecting a lot of these guys to move up the boards in the next few months, so what looks right now to be a reach (pre-combine, pre-pro days, pre-interviews, post-free agency, etc.), might not be in April.
I agree with this. Hughes is a project in every sense possible but his size and dynamic athletic abilities will allow him to get drafted earlier than one may expect from his total resume.
Feb 2, 2013 at 1:42 PM
- communist
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Nice...like the 2nd-round pick especially. Big and fast WRs are hard to find, particularly in this draft.
Feb 2, 2013 at 2:08 PM
- almondJoy
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Great thread Ghost, good information …
I only know a few college players … so this is a huge help to prepare for draft this year.
One thing I do take exception to is Delanie Walker. I hope th e9ers do keep him.
I only know a few college players … so this is a huge help to prepare for draft this year.
One thing I do take exception to is Delanie Walker. I hope th e9ers do keep him.
Feb 2, 2013 at 2:25 PM
- IdentityCrisis
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I've watched A LOT of Datone Jones this year (UCLA Alum) and I gotta be honest, he doesn't really fit the mold of a J.Smith replacement imo. He isn't a 3-4 end, he's a better penetrator than he is at getting a good push and occupying double teams.
Feb 2, 2013 at 5:45 PM
- ChaunceyGardner
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Originally posted by GhostofFredDean74:Sounds like the kind of player that would fit the defense, thanks for the info. I had him as a UDFA due to his academic suspension but moved him up to mid round status for now. He looks promising especially what I read about his ability to defeat double teams.
Originally posted by ChaunceyGardner:
Montori Hughes is drafted earlier than "other" mock drafts but with that said what do you like in him? I did not see much of him in games so I don't have much to go on.
Part of it is a reaction to the market; more teams are going to the 3-4 and 6'4", 330ish quality NTs are at a premium. Another part of it is the combination of power, strength and quickness that he shows. He's got a really quick first step for a big man and holds up well against double teams...that will attract a lot of attention from teams looking to beef up their d-line. But again, my mock is super early and I'm projecting a lot of these guys to move up the boards in the next few months, so what looks right now to be a reach (pre-combine, pre-pro days, pre-interviews, post-free agency, etc.), might not be in April.
Feb 2, 2013 at 10:34 PM
- jreff22
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Originally posted by GhostofFredDean74:
Originally posted by jreff22:
Did sanders declare? I have been calling for him for months
He definitely declared and was thanking the good lord he did.
good s**t, best return man IMO
Feb 7, 2013 at 7:58 PM
- CorvaNinerFan
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Ghost...definitely some interesting picks. Some comments...
The Alex trade...got the 3rd rounder, but why would KC throw in a CB. Andy Reid should be happy to land Alex, but giving up a CB, too...I don't know about that.
I can see maybe a couple more releases...something's got to give with our secondary. They were really exposed down the stretch and in post season.
I'd take a different tack WRT FA's. To me, Justin Smith's injury showed so vividly why we need a vet to bolster the DL. The guy I believe would be a terrific asset is Randy Starks. Plays inside & out...could be a starter or first off the bench. Nobody really stepped up when Justin got hurt...Starks would be the guy to potentially replace Justin, even if it's just for a few years. At 28, he's got some good years still ahead of him. Get him now.
Agree w/JJ...pistol is perfect for him. I'd also sign Sean Smith to beef up our CB's. We have nothing close to a shutdown CB...nor do we have any "bigs" back there. Smith is 25, just coming into his prime...he's a big CB and would match up well with the larger WR's, which we seem to face every Sunday.
In the draft, I believe Baalke's priorities should be CB, S, DL, TE, not necessarily in that order. With 15 potential picks (including the deal for Alex), TB has plenty of ammo to trade up to get blue-chippers vice numbers. To that end, for DL, I like both Jesse Williams and Jonathan Hankins. The latter is arguably the better pass rusher, but both guys can play anywhere on the line, have size, strength and attitude, just what we need to robust up our DL.
There are quite a few draft-worthy CB's. I don't have a personal favorite, but Xavier Rhodes is intriguing. Another "big" that could help defend the larger WR's. Trufant, Logan Ryan and Terry Hawthorne (ILL) are all guys to consider.
For S, I like McDonald, Rambo and Phillip Thomas. Any one would be a good pick. Whitner really disappointed...we just can't afford his inability to cover receivers. I'm beginning to understand what Bills fans meant when they said "buyer beware" when we signed him.
TE to me is Zach Ertz...it'd require trading up to get him, but again, Baalke has plenty of picks to deal with. I can just imagine how Kap/Roman could use this guy...at 6-6, what a RZ target.
OLB for me is Chase Thomas. 5th yr senior, excellent burst from outside, sure tackler, would provide some solid insurance for our starters.
I'm not concerned about another RB...we have 3 dandies plus Dixon for the power running. Anthony did well when he got the chance...would like to see him get more opportunities. Then there's Jewell Hampton...anxious to see what he can really do.
I like Justin Hunter...a big WR opposite Crabtree is just what the Dr ordered. Also like Kruger...agree he's a good one.
I really see Baalke coming away with 6 or so picks that would be high on quality vice quantity. He's got the picks to make it happen. It's doubtful any more than half a dozen would make the roster. Whatever's above that are PS candidates. I don't see more than maybe 8-9 picks, total.
The Alex trade...got the 3rd rounder, but why would KC throw in a CB. Andy Reid should be happy to land Alex, but giving up a CB, too...I don't know about that.
I can see maybe a couple more releases...something's got to give with our secondary. They were really exposed down the stretch and in post season.
I'd take a different tack WRT FA's. To me, Justin Smith's injury showed so vividly why we need a vet to bolster the DL. The guy I believe would be a terrific asset is Randy Starks. Plays inside & out...could be a starter or first off the bench. Nobody really stepped up when Justin got hurt...Starks would be the guy to potentially replace Justin, even if it's just for a few years. At 28, he's got some good years still ahead of him. Get him now.
Agree w/JJ...pistol is perfect for him. I'd also sign Sean Smith to beef up our CB's. We have nothing close to a shutdown CB...nor do we have any "bigs" back there. Smith is 25, just coming into his prime...he's a big CB and would match up well with the larger WR's, which we seem to face every Sunday.
In the draft, I believe Baalke's priorities should be CB, S, DL, TE, not necessarily in that order. With 15 potential picks (including the deal for Alex), TB has plenty of ammo to trade up to get blue-chippers vice numbers. To that end, for DL, I like both Jesse Williams and Jonathan Hankins. The latter is arguably the better pass rusher, but both guys can play anywhere on the line, have size, strength and attitude, just what we need to robust up our DL.
There are quite a few draft-worthy CB's. I don't have a personal favorite, but Xavier Rhodes is intriguing. Another "big" that could help defend the larger WR's. Trufant, Logan Ryan and Terry Hawthorne (ILL) are all guys to consider.
For S, I like McDonald, Rambo and Phillip Thomas. Any one would be a good pick. Whitner really disappointed...we just can't afford his inability to cover receivers. I'm beginning to understand what Bills fans meant when they said "buyer beware" when we signed him.
TE to me is Zach Ertz...it'd require trading up to get him, but again, Baalke has plenty of picks to deal with. I can just imagine how Kap/Roman could use this guy...at 6-6, what a RZ target.
OLB for me is Chase Thomas. 5th yr senior, excellent burst from outside, sure tackler, would provide some solid insurance for our starters.
I'm not concerned about another RB...we have 3 dandies plus Dixon for the power running. Anthony did well when he got the chance...would like to see him get more opportunities. Then there's Jewell Hampton...anxious to see what he can really do.
I like Justin Hunter...a big WR opposite Crabtree is just what the Dr ordered. Also like Kruger...agree he's a good one.
I really see Baalke coming away with 6 or so picks that would be high on quality vice quantity. He's got the picks to make it happen. It's doubtful any more than half a dozen would make the roster. Whatever's above that are PS candidates. I don't see more than maybe 8-9 picks, total.