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Optimistic Pre-Senior Bowl Mock
Jan 13, 2013 at 9:18 AM
- AllTimeGreat
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Mods please delete this thread. Double posted for some reason...
Jan 13, 2013 at 9:37 AM
- communist
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lol @ Jason campbell is one of the best backup-qbs in the League.
Jan 13, 2013 at 9:49 AM
- AllTimeGreat
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Originally posted by communist:
lol @ Jason campbell is one of the best backup-qbs in the League.
Can you name 5 who are better?
Jan 13, 2013 at 10:07 AM
- eonblue
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Love the swearinger pick. Don't like your first. I don't think theyre not running a NT because the don't to. I don't think he has the endurance to plsy more than 50% of the snaps. He's not a pass rusher and we can stop the run without him and generate pressure. If we had a dominant 3-4 NT he b would get many more snaps than sopo and he would add so much more pressure than a DE backup. That's why I like Jenkins at one.
[ Edited by eonblue on Jan 13, 2013 at 10:17 AM ]
Jan 13, 2013 at 10:14 AM
- AllTimeGreat
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Originally posted by eonblue:What do you mean?
Love the swearinger pick. Don't like your first. I don't think theyre not running a NT because the don't to. I don't think he has the endurance to plsy more than 50% of the snaps. He's not a pass rusher and we can stop the run without him and generate pressure. If we had a dominant 3-4 NT he b would get many more snaps than sopo and he would add so much more pressure than a DE backup. That's why I like Jenkins at one.
Why would you trade your second round for a next years second round that will probably be a later pick?
Jan 13, 2013 at 10:27 AM
- eonblue
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Sorry I went full retard for a second.
Jan 13, 2013 at 11:13 AM
- LasVegasWally
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Thanks for the work! I don't know much about a lot of the playes you've chosen AND it'll give me some targets to look at.
Agree with your cuts BUT I'd also list Delaine Walker. He'll probably get picked up in FA anyway.
I think Alex will get traded out of the conference. BUT that's probably wishful thinking.
Love the Floydd pick. He's mean SOB & reminds me of JPP from the Giants. Don't know if he'll be as good but he reminds me of him.
Since we don't know who the BPA will be, I personally draft for need. With that said IMO we need DLine future impact players. Justin will be coming off an operation and will be one year older. I like you've kept RJF. I'm NOT impressed with Dobbs or Tukafu [sp].
So I'd go NT in the 2nd and anothe DLine guy with one of the 3rd.
Admittedly, I don't know as much as you or many of the people in the Zone about college prospects, just a few of them. But I feel I know what our needs will be. NT, DE, WR the BIG fast variety, CB - Carlos is slipping, OLine depth.
I like Sorrensen but I feel we'll need to get him in the 5th. Searinger would be an excellent pick up. I wouldn't draft 2 OLB with our DLine needs. In fact I wouldn't draft any. We still have 2 untested guys from last year's draft. Also totally agree about BC linemen. Maybe your last pick could be a steal.
Thanks again for work.
Agree with your cuts BUT I'd also list Delaine Walker. He'll probably get picked up in FA anyway.
I think Alex will get traded out of the conference. BUT that's probably wishful thinking.
Love the Floydd pick. He's mean SOB & reminds me of JPP from the Giants. Don't know if he'll be as good but he reminds me of him.
Since we don't know who the BPA will be, I personally draft for need. With that said IMO we need DLine future impact players. Justin will be coming off an operation and will be one year older. I like you've kept RJF. I'm NOT impressed with Dobbs or Tukafu [sp].
So I'd go NT in the 2nd and anothe DLine guy with one of the 3rd.
Admittedly, I don't know as much as you or many of the people in the Zone about college prospects, just a few of them. But I feel I know what our needs will be. NT, DE, WR the BIG fast variety, CB - Carlos is slipping, OLine depth.
I like Sorrensen but I feel we'll need to get him in the 5th. Searinger would be an excellent pick up. I wouldn't draft 2 OLB with our DLine needs. In fact I wouldn't draft any. We still have 2 untested guys from last year's draft. Also totally agree about BC linemen. Maybe your last pick could be a steal.
Thanks again for work.
Jan 13, 2013 at 2:21 PM
- Ninerjohn
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Originally posted by AllTimeGreat:
Originally posted by communist:
lol @ Jason campbell is one of the best backup-qbs in the League.
Can you name 5 who are better?
There arent 5 real good backups in the NFL but Jason Campbell certainly isnt one. I would rather go with Tolzien
Jan 13, 2013 at 2:30 PM
- Ninefan56
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Originally posted by Ninerjohn:
There arent 5 real good backups in the NFL but Jason Campbell certainly isnt one. I would rather go with Tolzien
Me to, Tolzien is got to be better than Campbell.
But thank you for the Mock draft. Thank you for the center. I wanted to see a true NT as well I don't see Francois as a number 1 player I see him strictly as a backup.
Jan 13, 2013 at 4:14 PM
- Phoenix49ers
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Originally posted by NinerGM:
Originally posted by AllTimeGreat:
Offseason
Re-sign
Dashon Goldson. No brainer.
Ricky Jean-Francois. Takes over NT position from the departing Sopoaga.
RJF is not a starter. He's a bench player that is good at spelling the starters. Having him start would ruin the defense. Our version of 3-4 demands special players at the LOS.
This, anyone that thinks RJF is a legit starter at this level is out of their mind. I do agree with another poster, that if this team had a better NT, that he'd probably get a lot more snaps. Someone like Jesse Williams is ideal for what this team likes to do. I don't know that I see Floyd transitioning to the 3-4 DE that well, especially as a replacement for Justin Smith. Whoever replaces Justin Smith has to be strong both as a pass rusher and at stopping the run, the next pass rush move he develops will be his first. He'll be a good 4-3 DT definitely.
Jan 13, 2013 at 4:25 PM
- btthepunk
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Im all on board for Floyd in the first round. Dude is gonna be awesome.
Jan 13, 2013 at 6:41 PM
- 9erred
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Thank GOD you are not our GM.
Trades: 1. Trade 2nd rounder for 4th and 6th round picks and 2014 2nd round pick
2. Trade 2 6th round picks for mid 5th round pick
3. Trade 2013 and 2014 7th round picks for 6th round pick
Trade 1- This makes zero sense?? The Niners are a top team, they need higher draft picks to uipgrade their roster. This draft is lacking franchise player talent, but is deep at solid player status. A top 62 pick is key. A 4th and a 6th and a second next year makes no sense, points wise or what the team is trying to do.
Trade 2- this makes sense.
Trade 3- nah, take a flyer on two players, one might pan out.
Trades: 1. Trade 2nd rounder for 4th and 6th round picks and 2014 2nd round pick
2. Trade 2 6th round picks for mid 5th round pick
3. Trade 2013 and 2014 7th round picks for 6th round pick
Trade 1- This makes zero sense?? The Niners are a top team, they need higher draft picks to uipgrade their roster. This draft is lacking franchise player talent, but is deep at solid player status. A top 62 pick is key. A 4th and a 6th and a second next year makes no sense, points wise or what the team is trying to do.
Trade 2- this makes sense.
Trade 3- nah, take a flyer on two players, one might pan out.
Jan 13, 2013 at 7:36 PM
- PhillyNiner
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Sorry man...I don't like most of this.
The trades that net nothng in a draft where we already have a ton of pics, going with only RJF at nose, Campbell as back up, paying for starting quality TE then drafting one too, not that high on Bailey either.. I would be bummed if it went down like this....
The trades that net nothng in a draft where we already have a ton of pics, going with only RJF at nose, Campbell as back up, paying for starting quality TE then drafting one too, not that high on Bailey either.. I would be bummed if it went down like this....
Jan 14, 2013 at 2:35 PM
- TommyFrazier
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Don't agree with all the picks, but those are some damn good pictures. Action packed.
Love the Kelce pick and the Swearinger pick.
Love the Kelce pick and the Swearinger pick.