Originally posted by buck:
Originally posted by sfout:
Ask me or SunDevilNiner about Will Sutton 3-4 DE from Arizona State. So hope he declares, he'd be another 1st rounder that sits and the bench or rotates (causing people to b***h a la AJ Jenkins or LMJ) but he'd be worth it!!!!! Give him a year or 2 behind Justin and we wouldn't miss a beat when Cowboy retires.
A 3-4 defensive end who is 6-1 267 lbs.
I know he is a good player, but he seems more like an OLB or 4-3 defensive end.
The whole problem is he is a tweener with his height of 6'1 maybe even 6'0" -- With that lack of height he is a perfect lineman(4-3 or 3-4) because he'll always have an easier time getting under OL to push them back or get around them, his most important measurement IMHO will be arm length as no one wants a short guy with short arms. He probably weighs in the 270s because if you look at most of his tape he simply looks fatter then 265, his sheer athleticism is letting him do the things he does. As we all now, the college listed measurements are never accurate, either embellished or undersold. With Sutton it could go either way, I think he is actually in the 270s.
It'll depend on what the Draft Board tells him and what he chooses to do but I think right now he is so raw that he can choose between 4-3 DE or 3-4 DE, which is really weird to say because I dont think he has the overall "ranginess" you need a 3-4 OLB. I think the board will tell him the position he projects to in the NFL and I agree it'll likely be as 4-3 DE but they may say(depending on his real weight) that he is best suited as 3-4 DE.
We'll just have to wait and see.
EDIT: I'd almost want to compare Sutton to Melvin Ingram(6'1" 265) who is athletically gifted enough to play 4-3 DE/OLB and an undersized DT in sub packages. Which is Sutton to the T. I'm beating a dead horse but if Ingram's weight is really 265 then Sutton is definitely in the 270s because there is no way he is 267 with how much fat you can see on him compared to how lean Ingram has always looked very lean, even at SC in college.
I think Sutton will need creative coaching no matter if he comes out this year or next just like Ingram. Sutton would be project no matter what position he plays but all of this craziness will probably be for nothing as ASU HC Todd Graham said he expects Sutton back unless the board tells him he is a surefire first rounder.
Double EDIT: Sutton is a project pick, another Jenkins, LMJ, even Aldon kind of pick. My straight forward plug-in-play picks at 3-4 DE are Sheldon Richardson and Sharrif Floyd, Richardson preferably but I wont be picky
[ Edited by sfout on Dec 19, 2012 at 07:09:23 ]