AB's Mock Offseason V 2.0

Great detail, thanks. But why let Grant walk? I know that's a minor part, but still a part I disagree with. Also I want to keep Ginn. The rest looks great. Thanks again!

Superb cap analysis as always. Draft talk is way too early for me. I assume strict BPA with perhaps an emphasis on the trenches. Two questions:

If we need to re-tag Goldson the cap number for 2013 will not be much different than under your postulated extension for him, right? Would it be actually worth tagging the man again no matter what, just to keep room for 2014 and on?

With around 5 mil cap room left for 2013, what is the maximum conceivable FA contract we could offer to one guy? I'm asking this to know which "OMG! WE NEEDZ TO SIGN THIS D00D NOW!" posts to discount come free agency.

Great Draft! Great work as always! I always enjoy reading your posts AB!

Wouldn't we draft a conerback in the 1st three round, and not 2 pass rushers? Don't we still have two rookie DE's coming off injury that will be available next year?

Originally posted by 228niner:
Wouldn't we draft a conerback in the 1st three round, and not 2 pass rushers? Don't we still have two rookie DE's coming off injury that will be available next year?

A 5th rounder coming off of season ending injury and a 7th rounder who is on the PS, not even the 53-man roster. You don't change plans based on that

Originally posted by RollinWith21n52:
Great detail, thanks. But why let Grant walk? I know that's a minor part, but still a part I disagree with. Also I want to keep Ginn. The rest looks great. Thanks again!

Grant will eventually want to start , and want starter money $$$$

I would not argue with Ginn coming back as the teams KR , but at a reduced price

Bringing back Goodwin would be a great move , but not at his current price tag ..Kilgore and a 3rd round draft pick to compete for the starting center job would also work

Originally posted by RollinWith21n52:

Originally posted by 228niner:
Wouldn't we draft a conerback in the 1st three round, and not 2 pass rushers? Don't we still have two rookie DE's coming off injury that will be available next year?

A 5th rounder coming off of season ending injury and a 7th rounder who is on the PS, not even the 53-man roster. You don't change plans based on that

Well said.
I wouldnt mind seeing a DB in the 3rd instead of an OLB but only if its a better value. The first 2 picks are perfect as we got 2 guys at those positions that are getting older and with the money we'll have tied to our LB's will make it hard to sign another Justin Smith type guy in free agency so we'll have to draft there early and often to make sure the front 7 is dominant in the future.
A guy like Carradine in the 3rd means we dont need to sign guys like Clark Haggans.

Fine work!

Question: Why the #3 pick on a Center when we have a few good candidates on board - wouldn't we get more value by going after a Safety in such a deep Safety draft?

Originally posted by RollinWith21n52:
Great detail, thanks. But why let Grant walk? I know that's a minor part, but still a part I disagree with. Also I want to keep Ginn. The rest looks great. Thanks again!

It's the whole notion that he may bolt for money and playing time, maybe starting. Some say Ginn is a 1 trick phony kind of guy, I like him, but not sure the team will want him back.

Originally posted by paulk205:
Superb cap analysis as always. Draft talk is way too early for me. I assume strict BPA with perhaps an emphasis on the trenches. Two questions:

If we need to re-tag Goldson the cap number for 2013 will not be much different than under your postulated extension for him, right? Would it be actually worth tagging the man again no matter what, just to keep room for 2014 and on?

With around 5 mil cap room left for 2013, what is the maximum conceivable FA contract we could offer to one guy? I'm asking this to know which "OMG! WE NEEDZ TO SIGN THIS D00D NOW!" posts to discount come free agency.

Thank you. We coluld tag Goldson, but I always think re-signing a tagged player long term makes the relationship better. The tag number for Goldson would be about $7.45M next year, a 120% raise.

$5M could get a DL, or a solid CB. Also forgot to mention is Rogers, if he under performs in 2013, he could be cut in 2014 offseason, freeing up even more cap room.

Originally posted by genz22:
Great Draft! Great work as always! I always enjoy reading your posts AB!

Thank you very much, I put a great amount of time into this. Then had to redo it when we extended Bowman. But it was fun, and will be fun throughout the season and offseason.

need a legit OT Jason

Originally posted by NeeJ49er:

Originally posted by RollinWith21n52:
Great detail, thanks. But why let Grant walk? I know that's a minor part, but still a part I disagree with. Also I want to keep Ginn. The rest looks great. Thanks again!

Grant will eventually want to start , and want starter money $$$$

I would not argue with Ginn coming back as the teams KR , but at a reduced price

Bringing back Goodwin would be a great move , but not at his current price tag ..Kilgore and a 3rd round draft pick to compete for the starting center job would also work

I like Goodwin as a starter, who eventually passes it to Kilgore, or whoever we draft. I love Braxston Cave on ND, I had to have a Irish, big Irish fan here. Tough and Nasty, I love watching the ND Oline. Zach Martin, Chris Watt, Mike Golic Jr. all great players.

Originally posted by LasVegasWally:
Fine work!

Question: Why the #3 pick on a Center when we have a few good candidates on board - wouldn't we get more value by going after a Safety in such a deep Safety draft?

Probably the one questionable pick, but I think having two capable centerss(Cave and Kilgore) for the future would be great.

Safety wise, I had a tough time. Needs wise we need DL depth and an OLB, and a 3rd QB. So a S should of been in there, but I overlooked it, as usual, I overlook something.