JReff22 Mock v.1 (The its too early for this but I dont care edition) | Page 5

jreff22 · 2012-10-09T14:37:19-07:00

1. Kenny Vaccaro FS Texas 6'1" 218 lbs Vaccaro is a SS at Texas but will transition to FS just like Eric Berry has done. Great size, athleticism, and not scared to hit....sounds a bit familiar. He could be the only new starter on the D that has never played for the team, RJF has obvious experience. Expect so early issues just like with any rookie but he should fall in line with the other great Texas DB's from previous drafts. 2. Cornellius Carradine OLB Florida State 6'4" 265 lbs Depth will be a major sticking point this year. With Parys expecting a large payday, Haggins most likely walking, Flemming coming off major injury, and the Cam still on the PS we have a hole....a big one at OLB. Although this years class is full of sexy names, chances are we draft late again putting those guys out of reach. Carradine plays opposite of Bjorn and doesn't get the hype of his German counterpart. But the kid is a monster himself. Fantastic size with speed to boot and a tenacity to get after the QB. Remember this will be a rotational guy who will sub in and out with Aldon....we dont need to move up like some want, to get a player who can do what is needed. 3 (a). Marcus Davis WR Virginia Tech 6'4" 232 lbs Marcus Davis is a thicker more polished version of Stephen Hill with more experience. With the amount of WR's in this years draft he will fall but not very far. This is the pick that many of screamed for and will replace Moss. With the passing game starting to actually open up and evolve its time we grab a kid with his measurables that can go up and over anybody....including the big guys in Seattle. Do not expect him in a starting role, he will be a situational player for some time. 3 (b). Shawn Williams SS Georgia 6'1" 218 lbs Two safety's are you kidding me? Nope, I'm dead serious. Just like Goldson, Whitner isnt getting younger or cheaper. Although I love the tandem we have now its not going to last forever. Shawn Williams will be held in his normal position and will be the primary backup at SS and FS, but SS is where he will be groomed. Rambo gets the hype at UGA but Williams is a quality player that can do almost anything. Mcbath will be gone at the end of the year so while losing 2 guys in the back we add 2 in the same draft class. Some may not love the idea but if it happened these two will make a career out of tattooing WR's and RB's. He also has serious ST value from the get go. 4. Justin Pugh OT Syracuse 6'5" 298 lbs Justin Pugh becomes our new Boone. Although he's not gifted with the same talents, he does have the ability to step in and start in emergency situations which is what we need. He will need to add weight and fill out his frame but the kid has been a starter at LT for years at Syracuse and has played very well. This is one OL pick that should stick and develop into a great backup which will give most, if not all some relief. 5 (a). Michael Williams TE Alabama 6'5" 272 lbs Say hello to our 3rd TE, Michael Williams. Some may dislike this pick because he is more of a blocking TE than a pass cathcing one like Fleener. But this kid knows how to blakc very well and does it against top competition every week. He does have some pass cathing ability but he's not asked to do it much at Alabama. At his size he does create a mismatch problem for almost any LB or SS and can be trusted to catch the ball. This is not a replacement for Walker, more a replacement for Celek, L Davis, and Dobbs. Quality player that fits Jims mold of ground and pound ball. 5 (b). Omoregie Uzzi C/OG Georgia Tech 6'3" 302 lbs Some wanted Rambo but will you settle for an Uzzi instead? Omoregie Uzzi (a name that will be butchered during draft talk) is a nasty OG who considered leaving GT last year. One of the meanest guys on the GT OL, Uzzi has been one of the reasons why GT runs very well. Coming from a run first, second, and third system means he knows how to fight in the trenches. But I have him transitioning into the backup C spot behind Kilgore. It will be a new position for him so some adjustment will be expected but at his size and with time he could become a quality backup rounding out the last pick for OL for some time. 5 (c). Cory Grissom NT South Florida 6'2" 316 Playing for the Bulls, Grissom has had a pretty strong showing since he became a starter years ago. Grissom doesn't have gaudy stats but is a monster to deal with on the field and can eat blocks. The baby faced senior has had some history with medical issues so this is why he falls this far. Although JPP really put USF on the map they are still overlooked in the Big East all the while churning out talent. With Ice leaving and RJF stepping in this becomes a depth pick if he checks out medically. Remember this name come draft time. 6. Kapron Lewis-Moore DE Notre Dame 6'4" 306 lbs "Notre Dame is ranked.... ....wait you're serious " ? Yes ND is ranked and has one of the better defenses in the country. Kapron Lewis-Moore plays all over in ND's 3-4 so he has experience in the system already. Long but stout Moore is a constant disruptor across the DL. This is not a replacement for Justin because none exist in this years class, which is looking more ho hum every week. Moore will fight to become the primary backup at both DE positions because RJF will now be a starter. He might take the spot away from Dobss or Tukuafu but being that neither are getting meaningful snaps I wouldn't say the primary backup spot is locked down yet. His combine numbers will be interesting to watch. 6. Bruce Taylor ILB Virginia Tech 6'2" 244 lbs The era of Grant is now over as he looks to get a starting gig elsewhere. Taylor is a great ILB that should t hamper the D if he was need early in the season. Only knock of Taylor (which has dropped him) would be an injury to his foot. But the kid is a great player that loves to hit. He doesn't have the speed of Bowman or Willis but who else does at the position? If healthy he will be a great role player with ST skills and costing half of what Grant does. 7 (a). Melvin White CB La.-Lafayette 6'3" 191 lbs Jim loves competition so we get some for the 5th CB spot. Melvin White is a small school CB with great size that could be a FS/CB tweener which isn't a bad thing. When it comes to fighting for the 5th spot with a 7th rounder there isn't much to say except just see what happens. But if he checks out at 6'3 and can fill out to 200lbs that's one hell of a CB to have on the roster. 7 (b). Anthony McCloud NT Florida State 6'2" 322 lbs The last pick comes down to McCloud who will be fighting with Williams for the last NT spot on the team. McCloud is a large kid who can be the toilet clogger that many have called for in previous drafts. Although FSU has a good rotation on the DL McCloud hasn't stood out like the DE's on their squad. This is more of a developmental pick and back-end competition. Sometimes 7th rounders never make the team but others like RJF with time and effort become gems who just need the correct coaching. __________________________________________________________ Reasoning and Rational: I went into this with the idea that both Goldson, Grant, Moss, and Ice are gone, sad but a good possibility. Also the comp picks are added as well. This is still very early and these kids can move up or down multiple rounds easily. Things will change over the next coming weeks and months but here is an early look. Also, because this is a bit premature NO trades were done. Enjoy!!

Nov 5, 2012 at 10:16 PM

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Originally posted by jreff22:
few points...

I dont see any DE prospects that are within reach that would make an impact....I would rather draft later for depth then spend a high pick on a replacement who is meh.

OLB is still a high priority.

Rogers replacement is Cully and Cox can be the nickel easily.

If Moss wants back and looks good and Jim trusts him to finish another full season without issue....I might skip the big WR and look for a Ginn replacement. I wanted TY Hilton last year for that role and he is blowing up in Indy.....if Ace Sanders declares I would target him ASAP.

I really wanted Hilton too. He was on my mock last year. But I agree about the DE thing thats why I didnt name one in the main priority, unless we somehow moved way up.
II know Rogers' replacement is Cully but im thinking we still upgrade the secondary. I cant see us keeping Brock soo im thinking we get quality CB who'll be an upgrade over him. Roger, Brown, Cully, Cox and then a rookie who could eventually be our #3. Having 3/4 quality CB would be good with this passing league we're getting into. I still dont trust Cox that much though, hasnt proven much yet. Hopefully he gets better though.

I started to say find a Ginn replacement, but then I thought about Jenkins and James being on the roster. So maybe we give him the same treatment James and Jenkins got and learns from Moss? I just wish we could strike gold on a player w/o being in the top 10 picks. im thinking we would just end up in the same situation we are in now, preparing for the departure of moss and looking for the next RZ target. Ace Sander would be a nice pick up tho for the return game.

Nov 5, 2012 at 10:32 PM

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jreff22
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Originally posted by martysofresh:

Originally posted by jreff22:
few points...

I dont see any DE prospects that are within reach that would make an impact....I would rather draft later for depth then spend a high pick on a replacement who is meh.

OLB is still a high priority.

Rogers replacement is Cully and Cox can be the nickel easily.

If Moss wants back and looks good and Jim trusts him to finish another full season without issue....I might skip the big WR and look for a Ginn replacement. I wanted TY Hilton last year for that role and he is blowing up in Indy.....if Ace Sanders declares I would target him ASAP.

I really wanted Hilton too. He was on my mock last year. But I agree about the DE thing thats why I didnt name one in the main priority, unless we somehow moved way up.
II know Rogers' replacement is Cully but im thinking we still upgrade the secondary. I cant see us keeping Brock soo im thinking we get quality CB who'll be an upgrade over him. Roger, Brown, Cully, Cox and then a rookie who could eventually be our #3. Having 3/4 quality CB would be good with this passing league we're getting into. I still dont trust Cox that much though, hasnt proven much yet. Hopefully he gets better though.

I started to say find a Ginn replacement, but then I thought about Jenkins and James being on the roster. So maybe we give him the same treatment James and Jenkins got and learns from Moss? I just wish we could strike gold on a player w/o being in the top 10 picks. im thinking we would just end up in the same situation we are in now, preparing for the departure of moss and looking for the next RZ target. Ace Sander would be a nice pick up tho for the return game.

Any kid we get in the top 3 rounds needs to be able to contribute by week 4....after a month of training camp and 4 preseason games then sitting for another month during the regular season should be enough. A top 32/64 talent should be ready after 2 months of learning and training...no excuse. They aren't QB's and aren't converting positions. We made Miller a FB after playing DE/OLB in college and he was a Pro Bowl alternate and a very low pick. WR and RB are easy transitions into the pros....either they aren't smart enough or aren't good enough to surpass the ho hum guys in front of them. AJ makes more money than Moss, Ginn, Williams, and Ham....and cant pass any of them. James makes more then Jacobs, Hunter, Miller, and Dixon....and cant pass them either. After 3+ months of being on the team neither can surpass a guy (in their position group) or get another guy (non position-Celek, McBath etc) to sit because they are just that good....something is wrong. AJ is the only non hurt 1st rounder that hasn't gotten 1 snap if I remember correctly.

One of them will bust and I have a feeling that it will be James. With the way Gore and Hunter are running I cant see any player taking snaps away from them....if they are in the same from next year and James still cant return punts or kicks he could be behind Dixon again....that is a failure in my book. I dont want any more midget Pac-12 players that cant take a beating from NFL players. I want a heavy dose of SEC talent this year.

Nov 6, 2012 at 12:30 AM

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martysofresh
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Originally posted by jreff22:
Any kid we get in the top 3 rounds needs to be able to contribute by week 4....after a month of training camp and 4 preseason games then sitting for another month during the regular season should be enough. A top 32/64 talent should be ready after 2 months of learning and training...no excuse. They aren't QB's and aren't converting positions. We made Miller a FB after playing DE/OLB in college and he was a Pro Bowl alternate and a very low pick. WR and RB are easy transitions into the pros....either they aren't smart enough or aren't good enough to surpass the ho hum guys in front of them. AJ makes more money than Moss, Ginn, Williams, and Ham....and cant pass any of them. James makes more then Jacobs, Hunter, Miller, and Dixon....and cant pass them either. After 3+ months of being on the team neither can surpass a guy (in their position group) or get another guy (non position-Celek, McBath etc) to sit because they are just that good....something is wrong. AJ is the only non hurt 1st rounder that hasn't gotten 1 snap if I remember correctly.

One of them will bust and I have a feeling that it will be James. With the way Gore and Hunter are running I cant see any player taking snaps away from them....if they are in the same from next year and James still cant return punts or kicks he could be behind Dixon again....that is a failure in my book. I dont want any more midget Pac-12 players that cant take a beating from NFL players. I want a heavy dose of SEC talent this year.

Yeahh. There's plenty of quality players from the SEC that have the possibility of falling to us. The top 4 OLBs are all SEC guys so that may be a slim chance. Could get a DT. May have to settle for a safety though.
I dont think James will be a bust, I think he'll become one of those Sproles/Harvin/Cobb type players. you could be right though, only time will tell. Maybe theyre just not strong enough. I no
That money factor you said is big. I remember talking to Maiocco on FB early last season and he was sayin how Crab got more playtime at WR than KW because he was getting payed more. So now im wondering what the excuse would be.