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MD was right

Oct 16, 2012 at 14:29:07
#136
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Originally posted by SanDiego49er:
1st ballot. Lock.

So was another Texan, Mario Williams after his 2nd season... Is he now? Probably not.
Oct 16, 2012 at 14:36:04
#137
Originally posted by Jcool:
Originally posted by SanDiego49er:
1st ballot. Lock.

So was another Texan, Mario Williams after his 2nd season... Is he now? Probably not.

Thank you.

He's had a fantastic career thus far, but NO ONE knows what the future holds. Changes teams, changes schemes, injury, etc., etc. The body of work is simply too small to make such grand pronouncements.
Oct 16, 2012 at 14:52:00
#138
He probably holds Olineman to let his teammates get sacks. He's a cheater to me.

Let's see Watt get a DUI and get stabbed, then put up those kind of numbers.
Oct 16, 2012 at 20:07:19
#139
Originally posted by 49ersMyLife:
Who cares? When it comes to draft - he has been right about few things and wrong about many things...just like everybody else.

This. And a pretty big ego to go along with it
Oct 16, 2012 at 22:05:57
#140
Originally posted by Ninerjohn:
Originally posted by 49ersMyLife:
Who cares? When it comes to draft - he has been right about few things and wrong about many things...just like everybody else.

This. And a pretty big ego to go along with it


To be fair he has been wrong on some. And right on some. I suppose like anybody he brings up the right ones more. Isn't that what most people do?
Oct 17, 2012 at 09:03:59
#141
I didn't start this thread, and to this day, I say it is too early to say in concrete terms that any player is assured of being superior to another from this draft....although I like Watt's chances.
Oct 17, 2012 at 11:23:49
#142
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Originally posted by Jcool:
Originally posted by SanDiego49er:
1st ballot. Lock.

So was another Texan, Mario Williams after his 2nd season... Is he now? Probably not.

Don't forget about Shawne Merriman.
Oct 17, 2012 at 12:30:22
#143
Anybody know what Watt's stat line looked like after the GB game last week?

Watching that game, it looked like Watt was handled by GB's OL. He was getting alot of double teams.

Kinda like what Justin Smith sees every week.

With the stats Watt has put up so far this season, it would be surprising if any team did NOT double team him, which may mean that his stats go down a bit as the season progresses. Also shows that he's playing great if he gets the same kind of respect as Justin Smith.
Oct 17, 2012 at 14:21:12
#144
MD for GM
Oct 18, 2012 at 12:25:26
#145
Originally posted by oldninerdude:
Anybody know what Watt's stat line looked like after the GB game last week?

Watching that game, it looked like Watt was handled by GB's OL. He was getting alot of double teams.

Kinda like what Justin Smith sees every week.

With the stats Watt has put up so far this season, it would be surprising if any team did NOT double team him, which may mean that his stats go down a bit as the season progresses. Also shows that he's playing great if he gets the same kind of respect as Justin Smith.
Six tackles, five solo, two tackles for loss plus two sacks, three QB hurries and two or three QB hits.
Oct 18, 2012 at 12:36:34
#146
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Originally posted by MadDog49er:
Six tackles, five solo, two tackles for loss plus two sacks, three QB hurries and two or three QB hits.

And him and the defense gave up 42 points.
[ Edited by Jcool on Oct 18, 2012 at 12:37:19 ]
Oct 18, 2012 at 20:57:56
#147
Originally posted by MadDog49er:
Originally posted by oldninerdude:
Anybody know what Watt's stat line looked like after the GB game last week?

Watching that game, it looked like Watt was handled by GB's OL. He was getting alot of double teams.

Kinda like what Justin Smith sees every week.

With the stats Watt has put up so far this season, it would be surprising if any team did NOT double team him, which may mean that his stats go down a bit as the season progresses. Also shows that he's playing great if he gets the same kind of respect as Justin Smith.
Six tackles, five solo, two tackles for loss plus two sacks, three QB hurries and two or three QB hits.

Stats are for losers
Oct 19, 2012 at 18:28:37
#148
lawlz...

That's all I have to say.
Oct 19, 2012 at 19:12:16
#149
I personally appreciate Maddog and the fact that you made this thread. I loved both Aldon and Watt coming out and was torn between the two.

No one is ever right all the time. One thing I can't stand is when people just assume that a GM knows better than a well-informed draft nut/football fan (take for instance Maddog). There are so many other factors (connections, luck, politics, etc.) that lead to people landing GM jobs these days. Take the 49ers for instance, you could have literally done a webzone poll for our 1st round draft pick each year under McGloughan and our team would have been better than the one that McGloughan fielded.

From recent memory these would have been the consensus picks:

Aaron Rodgers (over Alex Smith)
Desean Jackson (over Kentwan Balmer)
Patrick Willis (consensus agreed)
Vernon Davis (consensus agreed)
Michael Crabtree (consensus agreed)

Now that team looks much better even if you subtracted every single other good player that McGloughan drafted in the later rounds (Frank Gore, Dashon Goldson, Ray McDonald). There were literally entire draft classes wasted with nothing but depth to show for it. Scott McGloughan is surprisingly enough a well respected scout/GM in the NFL. While some GM's have made it earning their stripes, the truth is there are many football fans that are just as good if not better at evaluating talent than some GM/scouts. Yes they don't get all the background, interviews, in-depth tape, and dirt on players but just because they chose other professions does not make them any less of a judge of talent.
[ Edited by 49oz2superbowl on Oct 21, 2012 at 13:20:18 ]
Oct 20, 2012 at 08:27:37
#150
Originally posted by 49oz2superbowl:
I personally appreciate Maddog and the fact that you made this thread. I loved both Aldon and Watt coming out and was torn between the two.

No one is ever right all the time. One thing I can't stand is when people just assume that a GM knows better than a well-informed draft nut/football fan (take for instance Maddog). There are so many other factors (connections, luck, politics, etc.) that lead to people landing GM jobs these days. Take the 49ers for instance, you could have literally done a webzone poll for our 1st round draft pick each year under McGloughan and our team would have been better than the one that McGloughan fielded.

From recent memory these would have been the consensus picks:

Aaron Rodgers (over Alex Smith)
Desean Jackson (over Aldon Smith
Patrick Willis (consensus agreed)
Vernon Davis (consensus agreed)
Michael Crabtree (consensus agreed)

Now that team looks much better even if you subtracted every single other good player that McGloughan drafted in the later rounds (Frank Gore, Dashon Goldson, Ray McDonald). There were literally entire draft classes wasted with nothing but depth to show for it. Scott McGloughan is surprisingly enough a well respected scout/GM in the NFL. While some GM's have made it earning their stripes, the truth is there are many football fans that are just as good if not better at evaluating talent than some GM/scouts. Yes they don't get all the background, interviews, in-depth tape, and dirt on players but just because they chose other professions does not make them any less of a judge of talent.


Desean Jackson over Aldon Smith- better do your fact checking.
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