Day 3 - Draft General Discussion

still have some favorites



want a big WR for fun

Originally posted by jdt84_2:

Originally posted by BayAreaNinersFan:
i havent followed pre-draft analysis much this year, so I can't say who'd be a great value at our next pick...


however, the Dlineman out of Nebraska, Jared Crick, seems like a Justin Smith kinda player..anyone here think he'd be a good fit to develop? Does he offer value at that spot? Is there a good enough Guard to draft here who might have a shot to start?


this years draft is a kinda weird for us, since we don't have any glaring needs. seems likely anyone we get from here on out won't be seeing the field much this year..

which makes me think we could take a shot at some raw talent that needs significant coaching up

this is i would like them packaging 5, 6, and/or 7 to move up into the 4th ot early 5th . i just am not sure if very many draft picks can make the team.

very true! i cant believe Baalke hasnt traded up yet...we should see some trading up tomorrow!

Anyone think we package that 2013 Colts 5th with our 5th to move up for another 4th? There's so much talent available in this next round, I'd love to get any of Crick, Dennard, Lewis, Boykin, Ben Jones, Ta'Amu, Criner, or Bolden.

I'd like to see:

97 - Jared Crick (DT/DE)
125 - Antonio Allen (S)

I can't stand to think that Joe Adams is still available and we spent a 1st on AJ Jenkins. I know we're projecting AJ Jenkins to be a good player, but Joe Adams just has that "it" factor, is a homerun every time he touches the ball, and produced consistently against greater competition. He would instantly become our most electric playmaker at WR and be a top 5 KR/PR guy in the NFL.

If I'm the 49ers and he falls to our 2nd 4th round pick I would have to think long and hard about pulling the trigger (Williams/Ginn could be expendable and Moss is no lock to actually be a contributing player/make the team). I know I know, it's not a need but he would be perfect and eliminate the need for a PR/KR exclusive player like Ginn (and provide an upgrade over Kyle Williams).

Also, the new abundance of WRs and potential return men (probably) rules out Devon Wylie.

Which is too bad, 'cause I love his game.

Course, with Harbaalke, every time I find myself saying "we won't draft him because we already have...," I end up soon thereafter calling myself a fool out loud.

Originally posted by austrich:
Also, the new abundance of WRs and potential return men (probably) rules out Devon Wylie.

Which is too bad, 'cause I love his game.

Course, with Harbaalke, every time I find myself saying "we won't draft him because we already have...," I end up soon thereafter calling myself a fool out loud.

I wouldn't call it so much of an abundance. The only legitimate PR/KR on the team is Tedd Ginn (with ). Lamichael James and AJ Jenkins have served in role return roles at times and Perrish Cox is a solid return man, but Tedd Ginn is really the only guy I would feel safe back there returning punts game in and game out.

At WR we have:

Michael Crabtree (lock), Mario Manningham (lock), AJ Jenkins (lock), Randy Moss (high risk/high reward), Kyle Williams (fringe), Tedd Ginn (should only be viwed as a PR)

That's 6 WR's, with two of them that could very easily not be on the team at the begining of the season (Williams and Moss) and another that is just a return specialist at this juncture. With that said, I only see three wr's that we are committed to on this team.

A player like Devon Wylie or Joe Adams, if determined to be the BPA should very much be considered with our 2nd 4th round pick or 5th. They would provide a great 4th wr (with potential to be elite slot players) AND be above average return men in the NFL.

Originally posted by jreff22:
still have some favorites



want a big WR for fun

Criner or Toon?

edit: Greg Childs and Tommy Streeter also

I think it is great to have a wishlist as a fan...............................until Harbaugh and Baalke make their pick. They are obviously working off of a VERY different list.

Originally posted by WillistheWall:

Originally posted by jreff22:
still have some favorites



want a big WR for fun

Criner or Toon?

Streeter

Crabs, Moss, Manningham, Jenkins, Streeter, Ginn

Originally posted by 49oz2superbowl:
I wouldn't call it so much of an abundance. The only legitimate PR/KR on the team is Tedd Ginn (with ). Lamichael James and AJ Jenkins have served in role return roles at times and Perrish Cox is a solid return man, but Tedd Ginn is really the only guy I would feel safe back there returning punts game in and game out.

At WR we have:

Michael Crabtree (lock), Mario Manningham (lock), AJ Jenkins (lock), Randy Moss (high risk/high reward), Kyle Williams (fringe), Tedd Ginn (should only be viwed as a PR)

That's 6 WR's, with two of them that could very easily not be on the team at the begining of the season (Williams and Moss) and another that is just a return specialist at this juncture. With that said, I only see three wr's that we are committed to on this team.

A player like Devon Wylie or Joe Adams, if determined to be the BPA should very much be considered with our 2nd 4th round pick or 5th. They would provide a great 4th wr (with potential to be elite slot players) AND be above average return men in the NFL.

True, that we shouldn't count on Moss' inclusion in either the short or long-term. But, he can't be ruled out, either. (Personally, much of me wishes he wasn't even in the discussion, but the brass didn't ask my opinion.)

Ginn is, barring injury, definitely the man this year, as that's THE reason he's on the team. But, if Harbaalke/Seely envision James, for example, the eventual man for kick return duties, I would imagine that in Harbaalke's minds rules out an Adams or Wylie.

Personally, I hope that's not the case. As much as I like positional versatility in a player, if LaMichael is going to be counted on to do some big things, his returning kicks simply creates an added injury liability.

So, depending on how they envision the futures for the players currently (& about to be on the roster) I hope there's room for Wylie.

Originally posted by jreff22:

Originally posted by WillistheWall:

Originally posted by jreff22:
still have some favorites



want a big WR for fun

Criner or Toon?

Streeter

Crabs, Moss, Manningham, Jenkins, Streeter, Ginn

I friggin like it, or Greg Childs. I'm REALLY high on Greg Childs dude. He reminds me of TO physically, with a way better attitude.

Originally posted by WillistheWall:

Originally posted by jreff22:

Originally posted by WillistheWall:

Originally posted by jreff22:
still have some favorites



want a big WR for fun

Criner or Toon?

Streeter

Crabs, Moss, Manningham, Jenkins, Streeter, Ginn

I friggin like it, or Greg Childs. I'm REALLY high on Greg Childs dude. He reminds me of TO physically, with a way better attitude.

I like Childs...does he drop that far..?

I can see either Crick or Ta'Amu and an OL possibly Nix/Kelemete or even Potter, (Potter being Snyder 2.0)

Originally posted by jreff22:

Originally posted by WillistheWall:

Originally posted by jreff22:

Originally posted by WillistheWall:

Originally posted by jreff22:
still have some favorites



want a big WR for fun

Criner or Toon?

Streeter

Crabs, Moss, Manningham, Jenkins, Streeter, Ginn

I friggin like it, or Greg Childs. I'm REALLY high on Greg Childs dude. He reminds me of TO physically, with a way better attitude.

I like Childs...does he drop that far..?

I hope so. I dunno if you saw it earlier, but I suggested we move our 5th rounder and that 2013 Indy 5th to move up for a 4th this year. Thoughts?