Originally posted by FILTHpigskin:
Nothing... they either get him at 30 or they don't.
Yep. There is no way I would give up picks to move up for Fleener. DeCastro.. absolutley.
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Originally posted by FILTHpigskin:
Nothing... they either get him at 30 or they don't.
Originally posted by ForeverYoung8:This just says it all
Originally posted by hofer36:
gots to get me some fleener weiner
Originally posted by BoiseNiner:
Originally posted by jreff22:
Originally posted by btthepunk:
If we trade up it better be for Michael Floyd.
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Originally posted by DirtyP:
I said he was a straight line speed guy, I did not read that statement anywhere.
A tight end who has to leave the field on run downs is not going to be a very effective receiver. Tight ends become effective when the defense has to guess as to what he is going to do when on the field.
Originally posted by AyYoJoey:
OK i am on the Fleener Steamer and there is no way in hell that he is on the board when we pick at #30. But i want this guy on our team more then any wide receiver, more then any offensive line man, more then any defensive back. This guy will be a great. With that said, what is a fair trade to move up in the draft? I'm not even sure if another team would make a trade, but it's nice to dream...
I say swap 1st rd picks, this years 3rd and next years 1st for the next big Fleen. (<<< i felt wrong typing that)
I personally believe we will make it back to the NFC championship game, so next years first wont be a high pick anyways.
EDIT - Keep in my mind this is what i would give up to get Fleener. Whether its crazy or irrational or whatever. I don't see much value in next years 1st or this years 3rd given that team needs are very minimal and i am betting that this year will be a great year. I do see Fleener as a luxury. If the team stays the course, we can afford luxury. Thats just my opinion on a player i see to be a game changer.
One NFL scout suggested that Stanford TE Coby Fleener "might be the most overrated guy in the draft" because he doesn't block and is more of a buildup-speed threat as a pass catcher.
"He wasn't even the best tight end on their team," the scout said. "No. 11 (sophomore Levine Toilolo), that's the real deal. (Fleener) might be the most overrated guy in the draft. He's awful as a blocker. Despite his workout numbers he's really not a quick-twitch, dynamic-moving guy. He's a straight-line, build-up player." The scout may be being overly critical of Fleener, but his first-round buzz seems to have died down in recent weeks.
Originally posted by 9ersLiferInChicago:
Originally posted by ForeverYoung8:This just says it all
Originally posted by hofer36:
gots to get me some fleener weiner
Originally posted by dj43:
I have written in other threads that Fleener would be a game-changer in the 49er offense. I won't repeat my argument here, only to say that rule changes to protect defenseless receivers make a tall receiver like Fleener an essential part of any truly good receiving corp.
That having been said, I do not believe he is worth spending more than a 3rd to move up to get him. The need for a RG/Center is just as great as a tall receiver, hence, BPA is the best route to travel.
However, in a draft that has a lot of talent on the top end, I would not be surprised if Baalke gives up some mid-round choices to move up for a player they feel will be an impact guy. This team does not have a glaring needs hence an impact guy would be worth sacrificing some "depth" choices if it is the right guy. As much as I like Fleener, I am not certain he is worth giving up what the OP suggests.