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Top 10 players I'd like the 49ers to draft at #30

Of all the players with the potential of falling to #30, here is my ranked list of who I'd like. The top 3 are all defense, simply because that's where the talent is at this year. I have TE Fleener #4, WR Randle #5, and WR Hill #9. Rankings are based on fit for the 49ers, need, and best player available.

Thoughts?

1. CB Dre Kirkpatrick, Alabama - Solid, low-risk DB prospect who will be a starter in this league for years to come. Not a need, but we'd have the best nickel and dime defensive backfield in the NFL without question. Big enough to play Safety and is a brute in the run game

2. CB Stephon Gilmore, South Carolina - Similar prospect to Kirkpatrick. Not a need, but we'd have a secondary that can goe toe to toe with any team that tries to spread us out. Another guy that can play safety and is low risk.

3. DE/OLB Courtney Upshaw, Alabama - Again, not a need, but he is a monster of a pass-rusher who could rotate in with Aldon Smith and Ahmad Brooks. You can never have enough 'fresh' pass-rushers. Also, he can play 4-3 DE if we ever decided to go that route.

4. TE Coby Fleener, Stanford - perfect for our offense. The 49ers have two tight ends in their base package, so we essentially have two starting tight ends. And I hate to burst the bubble of many 49er fans, but Delanie Walker is not a starting-caliber Tight End statistically or size-wise. With Fleener and Davis, we would have incredible mismatches against safeties and linebackers, forcing teams to abandon cover 2...that opens things up for our WRs on intermediate sideline routes.

5. WR Reuben Randle, LSU - Randle is the 3rd best WR in this prospect after Floyd and Blackmon and is a great fit for the west coast offense (intermediate routes). He's on LSU's hands team if that telsl you anthything. He is an excellent route runner who sets up defenders very well -- good shoulder fake to get a little separation. He fights for first down yardage -- a tough, physical receiver that will move the chains. He loves to block. Has the potential to be a #1 in the NFL - I think his floor is a solid Split End like Crabtree.

6. DL Devon Still, Penn State - great run-stopper who is quick off the snap and can generate a decent pass rush for an interior lineman. Still figuring out how to use his God-given physical abilities -- growth spurt in college has made him a lot bigger than when he entered college.

7. DL Jerel Worthy, Michigan State - A better fit as a 4-3 DT, could end up being a solid 3-4 DE in our system, rotating in. Biggest concern is inconsistency

8. OG Kevin Zeitler, Wisconsin - big-bodied mauler of a guard that still has lateral agility and gets downfield well to put a helmet on a linebacker. That attitude and awareness makes some think he can move to center someday -- Konz had that position locked down at Wisconsin. Very, very strong.

9. WR Stephen Hill, Georgia Tech - Physically, Hill is the best WR in this draft. Tall, fast, with an amazing vertical - Hill has more upside than anyone else in the draft. However, he has very little experience running pro style routes, tracking the quarterback's actions, etc. -- almost all of his yardage was on broken-looking plays in the Georgia Tech option offense. Phenomenal blocker.

10. C Peter Konz, Wisconsin - High-character Center who has the ability to play guard as well. Plays 'smart', always aware of what is going on like teammate Zeitler. Has had issues with strength and injuries.
[ Edited by nickbradley on Apr 19, 2012 at 12:21 PM ]
I think Courtney Upshaw is gonna be total bust where ever he plays. . And I would take Gilmore off the list. He's not in the 30 draft range anymore he's moved up.
1) Coby Fleener....


Fixed.
Originally posted by nickbradley:
Of all the players with the potential of falling to #30, here is my ranked list of who I'd like. The top 3 are all defense, simply because that's where the talent is at this year. I have TE Fleener #4, WR Randle #5, and WR Hill #9. Rankings are based on fit for the 49ers, need, and best player available.

Thoughts?

1. CB Dre Kirkpatrick, Alabama - Solid, low-risk DB prospect who will be a starter in this league for years to come. Not a need, but we'd have the best nickel and dime defensive backfield in the NFL without question. Big enough to play Safety and is a brute in the run game

2. CB Stephon Gilmore, South Carolina - Similar prospect to Kirkpatrick. Not a need, but we'd have a secondary that can goe toe to toe with any team that tries to spread us out. Another guy that can play safety and is low risk.

3. DE/OLB Courtney Upshaw, Alabama - Again, not a need, but he is a monster of a pass-rusher who could rotate in with Aldon Smith and Ahmad Brooks. You can never have enough 'fresh' pass-rushers. Also, he can play 4-3 DE if we ever decided to go that route.

4. TE Coby Fleener, Stanford - perfect for our offense. The 49ers have two tight ends in their base package, so we essentially have two starting tight ends. And I hate to burst the bubble of many 49er fans, but Delanie Walker is not a starting-caliber Tight End statistically or size-wise. With Fleener and Davis, we would have incredible mismatches against safeties and linebackers, forcing teams to abandon cover 2...that opens things up for our WRs on intermediate sideline routes.

5. WR Reuben Randle, LSU - Randle is the 3rd best WR in this prospect after Floyd and Blackmon and is a great fit for the west coast offense (intermediate routes). He's on LSU's hands team if that telsl you anthything. He is an excellent route runner who sets up defenders very well -- good shoulder fake to get a little separation. He fights for first down yardage -- a tough, physical receiver that will move the chains. He loves to block. Has the potential to be a #1 in the NFL - I think his floor is a solid Split End like Crabtree.

6. DL Devon Still, Penn State - great run-stopper who is quick off the snap and can generate a decent pass rush for an interior lineman. Still figuring out how to use his God-given physical abilities -- growth spurt in college has made him a lot bigger than when he entered college.

7. DL Jerel Worthy, Michigan State - A better fit as a 4-3 DT, could end up being a solid 3-4 DE in our system, rotating in. Biggest concern is inconsistency

8. OG Kevin Zeitler, Wisconsin - big-bodied mauler of a guard that still has lateral agility and gets downfield well to put a helmet on a linebacker. That attitude and awareness makes some think he can move to center someday -- Konz had that position locked down at Wisconsin. Very, very strong.

9. WR Stephen Hill, Georgia Tech - Physically, Hill is the best WR in this draft. Tall, fast, with an amazing vertical - Hill has more upside than anyone else in the draft. However, he has very little experience running pro style routes, tracking the quarterback's actions, etc. -- almost all of his yardage was on broken-looking plays in the Georgia Tech option offense. Phenomenal blocker.

10. C Peter Konz, Wisconsin - High-character Center who has the ability to play guard as well. Plays 'smart', always aware of what is going on like teammate Zeitler. Has had issues with strength and injuries.

Thank you that was a good list of people. Nick, do you have draft list of what you think that the Niners are looking for in players?
Originally posted by Ninefan56:
Thank you that was a good list of people. Nick, do you have draft list of what you think that the Niners are looking for in players?

I don't understand your question
Originally posted by nickbradley:
Of all the players with the potential of falling to #30, here is my ranked list of who I'd like. The top 3 are all defense, simply because that's where the talent is at this year. I have TE Fleener #4, WR Randle #5, and WR Hill #9. Rankings are based on fit for the 49ers, need, and best player available.

Thoughts?

1. CB Dre Kirkpatrick, Alabama - Solid, low-risk DB prospect who will be a starter in this league for years to come. Not a need, but we'd have the best nickel and dime defensive backfield in the NFL without question. Big enough to play Safety and is a brute in the run game

2. CB Stephon Gilmore, South Carolina - Similar prospect to Kirkpatrick. Not a need, but we'd have a secondary that can goe toe to toe with any team that tries to spread us out. Another guy that can play safety and is low risk.

3. DE/OLB Courtney Upshaw, Alabama - Again, not a need, but he is a monster of a pass-rusher who could rotate in with Aldon Smith and Ahmad Brooks. You can never have enough 'fresh' pass-rushers. Also, he can play 4-3 DE if we ever decided to go that route.

4. TE Coby Fleener, Stanford - perfect for our offense. The 49ers have two tight ends in their base package, so we essentially have two starting tight ends. And I hate to burst the bubble of many 49er fans, but Delanie Walker is not a starting-caliber Tight End statistically or size-wise. With Fleener and Davis, we would have incredible mismatches against safeties and linebackers, forcing teams to abandon cover 2...that opens things up for our WRs on intermediate sideline routes.

5. WR Reuben Randle, LSU - Randle is the 3rd best WR in this prospect after Floyd and Blackmon and is a great fit for the west coast offense (intermediate routes). He's on LSU's hands team if that telsl you anthything. He is an excellent route runner who sets up defenders very well -- good shoulder fake to get a little separation. He fights for first down yardage -- a tough, physical receiver that will move the chains. He loves to block. Has the potential to be a #1 in the NFL - I think his floor is a solid Split End like Crabtree.

6. DL Devon Still, Penn State - great run-stopper who is quick off the snap and can generate a decent pass rush for an interior lineman. Still figuring out how to use his God-given physical abilities -- growth spurt in college has made him a lot bigger than when he entered college.

7. DL Jerel Worthy, Michigan State - A better fit as a 4-3 DT, could end up being a solid 3-4 DE in our system, rotating in. Biggest concern is inconsistency

8. OG Kevin Zeitler, Wisconsin - big-bodied mauler of a guard that still has lateral agility and gets downfield well to put a helmet on a linebacker. That attitude and awareness makes some think he can move to center someday -- Konz had that position locked down at Wisconsin. Very, very strong.

9. WR Stephen Hill, Georgia Tech - Physically, Hill is the best WR in this draft. Tall, fast, with an amazing vertical - Hill has more upside than anyone else in the draft. However, he has very little experience running pro style routes, tracking the quarterback's actions, etc. -- almost all of his yardage was on broken-looking plays in the Georgia Tech option offense. Phenomenal blocker.

10. C Peter Konz, Wisconsin - High-character Center who has the ability to play guard as well. Plays 'smart', always aware of what is going on like teammate Zeitler. Has had issues with strength and injuries.

1) Zeitler - He would start from Day 1 and the most glaring weakness for this team
2) Hill - special talent and would be the Niners true down the field threat after Moss is gone
3) Konz - if we cant get Zeitler then Konz would be a nice prize. Interior line needs work
4) Fleener - really like him but TE is a bit of a luxury
5) Jenkins - yes a potential headcase but the upside is huge
6) Randle - like his upside a lot too

Gilmore will not fall that far nor will Kirpatrick. Forget Upshaw. He simply isnt a 3-4 DE and that is more important to the Niners than an OLB
1) Hill
2) Fleener
3) Randle
4) Worthy
5) Jones
6) Konz
7) Zeitler
8) Still
9) Kirkpatrick
10) Jeffery
I'll be happy as long as it is someone who can help us convert 3rd downs and in the red-zone.

1) Fleener - we'd probably have to trade up to get him. I see him going in the 20-25 range.

2) Randle - he could also go higher. I think he's the 3rd best WR in the draft. Could go around 25. I hope he falls and some idiot GM drafts Stephen Hill instead.

I'm not high on Hill because he is a one trick pony with good measurables. We already have a receiver that can run go routes and nothing else (Ted Ginn). We need help now... Hill is a project with high bust potential.
[ Edited by blm7754 on Apr 19, 2012 at 2:32 PM ]
Thank you for the post. It was a good read.
I think what most people are missing with Fleener, he might be listed as a TE but he can play any of the receivers positions. I think Hill is overated.
I want Fleener or Randle... but that just means the 49ers will probably pick neither.
Originally posted by Ninerjohn:
1) Zeitler - He would start from Day 1 and the most glaring weakness for this team
2) Hill - special talent and would be the Niners true down the field threat after Moss is gone
3) Konz - if we cant get Zeitler then Konz would be a nice prize. Interior line needs work
4) Fleener - really like him but TE is a bit of a luxury
5) Jenkins - yes a potential headcase but the upside is huge
6) Randle - like his upside a lot too

Gilmore will not fall that far nor will Kirpatrick. Forget Upshaw. He simply isnt a 3-4 DE and that is more important to the Niners than an OLB

Zeitler is impressive, but there is a ton of OG value in rounds 2 and 3.

Hill is a crapshoot. With his talent, he'd be a top 5 pick if he were a sure thing.
Originally posted by NinerBuff:
1) Hill
2) Fleener
3) Randle
4) Worthy
5) Jones
6) Konz
7) Zeitler
8) Stil
9) Kirkpatrick
10) Jeffery

Tell me why hill is worth the risk
Originally posted by NinerBuff:
1) Hill
2) Fleener
3) Randle
4) Worthy
5) Jones
6) Konz
7) Zeitler
8) Stil
9) Kirkpatrick
10) Jeffery

Tell me why hill is worth the risk
Originally posted by blm7754:
I'll be happy as long as it is someone who can help us convert 3rd downs and in the red-zone.

1) Fleener - we'd probably have to trade up to get him. I see him going in the 20-25 range.

2) Randle - he could also go higher. I think he's the 3rd best WR in the draft. Could go around 25. I hope he falls and some idiot GM drafts Stephen Hill instead.

I'm not high on Hill because he is a one trick pony with good measurables. We already have a receiver that can run go routes and nothing else (Ted Ginn). We need help now... Hill is a project with high bust potential.

I'm high on fleener and Randle as well. Pretty certain at least one of them will be there at 30
Originally posted by lamontb:
I think Courtney Upshaw is gonna be total bust where ever he plays. . And I would take Gilmore off the list. He's not in the 30 draft range anymore he's moved up.

Why is Upshaw gonna be considered a bust? I could see it as a DE, but as an OLB in a 3-4 he looks pretty legit.