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OTC's Big 253 Board -- April 6
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Apr 6, 2012 at 8:04 PM
- rafachivas12
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only the Stephen Hill pick will happen
Apr 6, 2012 at 8:39 PM
- 49ersalldaway126
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awsome mock would love this draft if the draft fell like that
Apr 6, 2012 at 9:26 PM
- nw9erfan
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If the draft unfolded this way, I wouldn't be unhappy at all.
The only pick which I question at this point (and I know many of you Zoners will be surprised)...is the Crick pick. I once saw this guy as a Justin Smith clone....until Maddog reported the guy has very short arms and is more of a 4-3 DE... In other words, he is a good player but probably doesn't fit the Niners' scheme. (Curious what your take is on him OTC...)
Other than that however, I love this draft. The later picks have especially good value at positions of needed depth.
Nice research overall, OTC....
Cheers!
The only pick which I question at this point (and I know many of you Zoners will be surprised)...is the Crick pick. I once saw this guy as a Justin Smith clone....until Maddog reported the guy has very short arms and is more of a 4-3 DE... In other words, he is a good player but probably doesn't fit the Niners' scheme. (Curious what your take is on him OTC...)
Other than that however, I love this draft. The later picks have especially good value at positions of needed depth.
Nice research overall, OTC....
Cheers!
Apr 6, 2012 at 9:35 PM
- 49ersalldaway126
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Originally posted by nw9erfan:
If the draft unfolded this way, I wouldn't be unhappy at all.
The only pick which I question at this point (and I know many of you Zoners will be surprised)...is the Crick pick. I once saw this guy as a Justin Smith clone....until Maddog reported the guy has very short arms and is more of a 4-3 DE... In other words, he is a good player but probably doesn't fit the Niners' scheme. (Curious what your take is on him OTC...)
Other than that however, I love this draft. The later picks have especially good value at positions of needed depth.
Nice research overall, OTC....
Cheers!
i didnt know about the short arms thing but dude is relentless he was injured last year but in 2009 and 2010 he had 17.5 total sacks
ii like him a lot
Apr 6, 2012 at 9:48 PM
- TonyMantana
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Dude what do the **'s indicate next to some of your players?? hen did Cordy Glen overtake Decastto as your top guard?
[ Edited by TonyMantana on Apr 6, 2012 at 9:49 PM ]
Apr 7, 2012 at 1:18 AM
- OnTheClock
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Originally posted by TonyMantana:Dude what do the **'s indicate next to some of your players?? hen did Cordy Glen overtake Decastto as your top guard?
I don't think Glenn is better. I think Dallas may have Glenn higher rated than DeCastro and project them to take him there.
The ** indicate underclassmen. One star = junior, two stars = sophomore.
Apr 7, 2012 at 6:51 AM
- strickac
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If Reiff goes before Trent Richardson, I'll turn my TV off and walk away.
Apr 7, 2012 at 7:02 AM
- English
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Originally posted by rafachivas12:only the Stephen Hill pick will happen
Who didnt read OTC's opening two paragraphs, then?
Apr 7, 2012 at 7:15 AM
- ishkabibel
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Originally posted by nw9erfan:
If the draft unfolded this way, I wouldn't be unhappy at all.
The only pick which I question at this point (and I know many of you Zoners will be surprised)...is the Crick pick. I once saw this guy as a Justin Smith clone....until Maddog reported the guy has very short arms and is more of a 4-3 DE... In other words, he is a good player but probably doesn't fit the Niners' scheme. (Curious what your take is on him OTC...)
Other than that however, I love this draft. The later picks have especially good value at positions of needed depth.
Nice research overall, OTC....
Cheers!
This was my concern as well when I was skimming through the list. Do you feel Crick is a legit 3-4 DE?
Thanks again for all your hard work.
Apr 7, 2012 at 7:37 AM
- OnTheClock
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Remember when Locker and Gabbert were taken at 8 and 10 ahead of JJ Watt, and Ponder at 12 ahead of Fairley and Quinn? Things that aren't supposed to happen.. happen all the time in the draft.
Apr 7, 2012 at 10:13 AM
- Jakemall
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Hill drops from the late teens to the 30s? Not that I would mind, but why the change in perception?
Apr 7, 2012 at 1:23 PM
- Kolohe
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I would cry tears of joy if our draft ended up that way. Hill, Crick and Judie damn!!!!!!
Apr 7, 2012 at 2:20 PM
- OnTheClock
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Originally posted by Jakemall:Hill drops from the late teens to the 30s? Not that I would mind, but why the change in perception?
It is hard to pinpoint his falling spot. He's all over the place, but I think it is HUGELY dependent on how the top half of the draft falls. Reason being, other teams have different needs and a lot of other possible BPA's I believe ahead of Hill.
Possible landing spots for Hill range from the Jets, Chargers, Bengals, Browns, Lions, Broncos, and Texans. I think the Bears will pass on WR after the acquisition of Marshall.
Jets - Probably will look more for a pass rusher or RT.
Bengals - Probably will look more at DL (poor pass rush last year), DB, or OG.
Chargers - Is in serious need of OL help after losing several linemen. They did sign a couple receivers too.
Browns - If they take Blackmon at 4, I don't think they'll take another WR at 22.
Lions - Probably will look more at DB, RB, or OL.
Broncos - They are a bigger possibility, but they really need a DT and CB as well as OL help.
Texans - I think if Hill and Wright are both there, they take Wright. Either way, I think the one they don't take (if they both make it that far) will go to us.
[ Edited by OnTheClock on Apr 7, 2012 at 2:21 PM ]
Apr 7, 2012 at 5:00 PM
- 49ersalldaway126
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Originally posted by OnTheClock:
It is hard to pinpoint his falling spot. He's all over the place, but I think it is HUGELY dependent on how the top half of the draft falls. Reason being, other teams have different needs and a lot of other possible BPA's I believe ahead of Hill.
Possible landing spots for Hill range from the Jets, Chargers, Bengals, Browns, Lions, Broncos, and Texans. I think the Bears will pass on WR after the acquisition of Marshall.
Jets - Probably will look more for a pass rusher or RT.
Bengals - Probably will look more at DL (poor pass rush last year), DB, or OG.
Chargers - Is in serious need of OL help after losing several linemen. They did sign a couple receivers too.
Browns - If they take Blackmon at 4, I don't think they'll take another WR at 22.
Lions - Probably will look more at DB, RB, or OL.
Broncos - They are a bigger possibility, but they really need a DT and CB as well as OL help.
Texans - I think if Hill and Wright are both there, they take Wright. Either way, I think the one they don't take (if they both make it that far) will go to us.
chargers also need pass rushers
they have the worst pass rus in nfl
out of those teams jets, bengals,browns and texans will take a WR
jets do need a pass rusher and a S (barron) so i dont really see them getting a WR
bengals need a G and DB more than a WR butif glenn and decastro arent there i see them getting a DB and a WR
browns - i think they go WR for sure unless they go blackmon at 4 which isnt holgrems style they go after wright or hill (both should be avaliable)
texans- will take WR really their only need at the moment
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