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No word on how he did at today's Michigan St. pro day, but WR Keshawn Martin is someone we should keep an eye on as a late round PR specialist. He's been one of the top punt returners in the nation the last few years, has decent size at 5'11" 190ish and ran a solid 4.45 and at the combine.
Originally posted by sfout:
Originally posted by OnTheClock:
Originally posted by 49ersalldaway126:
Originally posted by SunDevilNiner79:
I've been a huge fan of T.Y. Hilton, even putting him as #10 on my WR list, only to be laughed at by others.

T.Y. Hilton is legit.

i think hes top 10 but too one dimensional in terms of being a WR all he will be able to do is strech the field (not a bad thing) but he only weighs like 175 or somehting he wont be able to run slants or across the middle posts etc,

My friend, I have to disagree with you there. As a prototypical slot receiver, he'd definitely run a lot of quick slants to make use of that quick separation and speed after the catch. I do not grade Hilton as highly as some, but I think he is a good slot receiver prospect. I still believe Devon Wylie has the better skill set and all around build for the NFL. Thicker, stronger, faster, quicker, and protects the ball better than Hilton on the field.

49erAlldaway - Read my link he bulked up to 183 and still ran 4.34. After a year in an NFL weight room he would probably be at least in the 185-188 range and probably still run the 4.3s.

Ginn or D Jax clone?
Omar Bolden finally ran at his Pro Day on 3/16. Did not time well. Only decent time was 3-cone (6.93). Reportedly ran a 4.59 and his shuttle time was horrendous. Film will reign superior so he'll probably grade out around a 4th rounder.

http://www.kffl.com/gnews.php?id=775781-nfl-omar-bolden-runs-at-pro-day


Vinny Curry also improved his combine 4.9 forty time to 4.64 at his pro day: http://nflmocks.com/2012/03/17/pro-day-recap-west-virginia-and-vinny-curry/
[ Edited by OnTheClock on Mar 18, 2012 at 9:45 PM ]
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Elvis Akpla's pro day is today. be interested to see if we go back to Montana State again this year.
Originally posted by sfout:
Elvis Akpla's pro day is today. be interested to see if we go back to Montana State again this year.

Can't wait to hear the results. The other guy I mentioned in the "Finding the next Victor Cruz" thread was Jermaine Saffold, and apparently he had a strong pro day, according to this report:

Quote:


Saffold had the best 40-yard time of the day at 4.36 and also registered a broad jump of 10-feet, 3 inches

I would love to bring in this cat as an UDFA. As far as Akpla, I've seen him listed as a potential late round pick now, instead of an UDFA.
Originally posted by OnTheClock:
Omar Bolden finally ran at his Pro Day on 3/16. Did not time well. Only decent time was 3-cone (6.93). Reportedly ran a 4.59 and his shuttle time was horrendous. Film will reign superior so he'll probably grade out around a 4th rounder.

http://www.kffl.com/gnews.php?id=775781-nfl-omar-bolden-runs-at-pro-day


Vinny Curry also improved his combine 4.9 forty time to 4.64 at his pro day: http://nflmocks.com/2012/03/17/pro-day-recap-west-virginia-and-vinny-curry/

The problem with 40 times at pro-days is you never know what is "accurate."

The AZ Republic reported he ran a consensus 4.45 40.

http://www.cbssports.com/general/blog/eye-on-sports/17844132/asu-pro-day-burfict-struggles-again-osweiler-to-throw-330
-Says Bolden ran a 4.45

http://www.azcentral.com/sports/asu/articles/2012/03/17/20120317asu-football-pro-day.html
-Says Bolden ran a 4.45
[ Edited by SunDevilNiner79 on Mar 19, 2012 at 3:36 PM ]
Originally posted by SunDevilNiner79:
Originally posted by OnTheClock:
Omar Bolden finally ran at his Pro Day on 3/16. Did not time well. Only decent time was 3-cone (6.93). Reportedly ran a 4.59 and his shuttle time was horrendous. Film will reign superior so he'll probably grade out around a 4th rounder.

http://www.kffl.com/gnews.php?id=775781-nfl-omar-bolden-runs-at-pro-day


Vinny Curry also improved his combine 4.9 forty time to 4.64 at his pro day: http://nflmocks.com/2012/03/17/pro-day-recap-west-virginia-and-vinny-curry/

The problem with 40 times at pro-days is you never know what is "accurate."

The AZ Republic reported he ran a consensus 4.45 40.

http://www.cbssports.com/general/blog/eye-on-sports/17844132/asu-pro-day-burfict-struggles-again-osweiler-to-throw-330
-Says Bolden ran a 4.45

http://www.azcentral.com/sports/asu/articles/2012/03/17/20120317asu-football-pro-day.html
-Says Bolden ran a 4.45

SD, need to read a little closer. AZ Republic I think may have been referencing one single hand-time or something.

Quote:
The 5-10, 202 pound Bolden told reporters following the workout that he was timed at 4.45 seconds in the 40-yard dash. This number circulated through the internet yesterday. In reality, scouts clocked him in the mid to high 4.5s.

Apparently the 4.45 was a lie, and the high 4.5 was the correct time.
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Originally posted by OnTheClock:
Originally posted by sfout:
Elvis Akpla's pro day is today. be interested to see if we go back to Montana State again this year.

Can't wait to hear the results. The other guy I mentioned in the "Finding the next Victor Cruz" thread was Jermaine Saffold, and apparently he had a strong pro day, according to this report:

Quote:


Saffold had the best 40-yard time of the day at 4.36 and also registered a broad jump of 10-feet, 3 inches

I would love to bring in this cat as an UDFA. As far as Akpla, I've seen him listed as a potential late round pick now, instead of an UDFA.

nice we were one of the teams watching so maybe we liked what we saw. If you find anything on Montan State link it, I've searched it and cant find it all.
Originally posted by sfout:
Originally posted by OnTheClock:
Originally posted by sfout:
Elvis Akpla's pro day is today. be interested to see if we go back to Montana State again this year.

Can't wait to hear the results. The other guy I mentioned in the "Finding the next Victor Cruz" thread was Jermaine Saffold, and apparently he had a strong pro day, according to this report:

Quote:

Quote:


Saffold had the best 40-yard time of the day at 4.36 and also registered a broad jump of 10-feet, 3 inches

I would love to bring in this cat as an UDFA. As far as Akpla, I've seen him listed as a potential late round pick now, instead of an UDFA.

nice we were one of the teams watching so maybe we liked what we saw. If you find anything on Montan State link it, I've searched it and cant find it all.

All I could find was something saying he was going to work out at Oregon's pro day. Thing is, Oregon's pro day already passed. Still can't find results yet.
[ Edited by OnTheClock on Mar 20, 2012 at 9:09 AM ]
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Originally posted by OnTheClock:
Originally posted by sfout:
Originally posted by OnTheClock:
Originally posted by sfout:
Elvis Akpla's pro day is today. be interested to see if we go back to Montana State again this year.

Can't wait to hear the results. The other guy I mentioned in the "Finding the next Victor Cruz" thread was Jermaine Saffold, and apparently he had a strong pro day, according to this report:

Quote:

Quote:


Saffold had the best 40-yard time of the day at 4.36 and also registered a broad jump of 10-feet, 3 inches

I would love to bring in this cat as an UDFA. As far as Akpla, I've seen him listed as a potential late round pick now, instead of an UDFA.

nice we were one of the teams watching so maybe we liked what we saw. If you find anything on Montan State link it, I've searched it and cant find it all.

All I could find was something saying he was going to work out at Oregon's pro day. Thing is, Oregon's pro day already passed. Still can't find results yet.

wtf?!?!?!
Found video of Akpla's pro day. I can tell you this, I'm not sure if he tried to add bulk or what, but he looked nowhere near as quick or fast in his workout for some reason.

Ran only a 4.57 and 4.59 and 3-cone of only 3.99. I don't think those are indicative of his on-the-field ability, but this could hurt his chances at being drafted. Jermaine Saffold, however, helped himself.

[ Edited by OnTheClock on Mar 20, 2012 at 9:12 AM ]
Originally posted by sfout:
nice we were one of the teams watching so maybe we liked what we saw. If you find anything on Montan State link it, I've searched it and cant find it all.

And yes, perhaps we make a push to add Saffold to our camp for competition.

This is an excerpt from the article:

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Missouri State's annual football pro day at Plaster Field on Friday morning proved to be successful as 13 NFL teams sent representatives to evaluate the eight former Bears and four others chasing their professional dreams. A pair of MSU players, Jermaine Saffold and Chris Douglas, stole most of the attention. Saffold had the best 40-yard time of the day at 4.36 and also registered a broad jump of 10-feet, 3 inches. Douglas, who showed up in remarkable shape, turned in a 4.47 in the 40-yard dash after spending most of his post-graduation time working out at a professional training facility. Former Bears Stephen Johnston, Caleb Mueller, Jimmie Strong, Willie White, Terian Washington and Antoine Wilkinson were also evaluated today. Two players from Evangel University, including former Bear Sam Guillaume, also participated along with representatives from Southwest Baptist University and Missouri University of Science & Technology. Scouts from the Bills, Colts, Jaguars, Chiefs, Giants, Eagles, Bears, Packers, Panthers, Buccaneers, 49ers, Steelers and Seahawks evaluated the pro hopefuls in the 40-yard dash, broad jump, shuttle run, three-cone drills, position skill tests and other speed drills after an early-morning evaluations in the weight room. - Missouri State football
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Originally posted by OnTheClock:
Originally posted by sfout:
nice we were one of the teams watching so maybe we liked what we saw. If you find anything on Montan State link it, I've searched it and cant find it all.

And yes, perhaps we make a push to add Saffold to our camp for competition.

This is an excerpt from the article:

Quote:
Missouri State's annual football pro day at Plaster Field on Friday morning proved to be successful as 13 NFL teams sent representatives to evaluate the eight former Bears and four others chasing their professional dreams. A pair of MSU players, Jermaine Saffold and Chris Douglas, stole most of the attention. Saffold had the best 40-yard time of the day at 4.36 and also registered a broad jump of 10-feet, 3 inches. Douglas, who showed up in remarkable shape, turned in a 4.47 in the 40-yard dash after spending most of his post-graduation time working out at a professional training facility. Former Bears Stephen Johnston, Caleb Mueller, Jimmie Strong, Willie White, Terian Washington and Antoine Wilkinson were also evaluated today. Two players from Evangel University, including former Bear Sam Guillaume, also participated along with representatives from Southwest Baptist University and Missouri University of Science & Technology. Scouts from the Bills, Colts, Jaguars, Chiefs, Giants, Eagles, Bears, Packers, Panthers, Buccaneers, 49ers, Steelers and Seahawks evaluated the pro hopefuls in the 40-yard dash, broad jump, shuttle run, three-cone drills, position skill tests and other speed drills after an early-morning evaluations in the weight room. - Missouri State football

Akpla looked good but I can tell you right now it was bad footwork on the shuttles that gave him those iffy times, he shuffled his feet every time he got near a cone.

Saffold's numbers look great, maybe we'll get lucky and find a video of Saffold's pro day too lol.
Is the consensus the 49ers will pick up a WR in the first? I know out of the top four picks maybe two are WR's but I am not sold on the 1st as a WR.
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Originally posted by fister30:
Is the consensus the 49ers will pick up a WR in the first? I know out of the top four picks maybe two are WR's but I am not sold on the 1st as a WR.

i wouldn't say its a lock right now. Despite the majority opinion of Crabtree not being a #1, the #s in our offense and the opinion of the FO state otherwise and he is only half way through his rookie deal so the team is going to keep watching his growth. We dont need a "#1" we just need a versatile deep threat.

Manningham was the #2 for 3 years before Victor Cruz broke out this season, he put up nearly identical #s to Crabtree in 09 and 10 and was even more of deep threat then Crabtree. He was dropped to #3 due to Cruz's emergence and even then put up slightly less the numbers Josh Morgan was projected to finish the season with as our most productive WR at the time. Think about that our "#1 through 5 games" was on pace to barely outpace the #3 of the Giants in production.....

Manningham in 2010: 60 rec for 944 yards 9 TDs
Crabtree in 2011: 72 rec for 874 yards 2 TDs(stupid offense not targeting WRs in the redzone o:)

Manningham comes from more pass happy/downfield more often type of offense but discounting Manningham's nearly non-existent rookie year he has a career average of 14.5 YPC compared to Crabtree's 12.8

Then add in Moss who the quintessential deep threat, If we have the motivated Randy(and still fast) on our team(I dont think we would've signed him if he wasnt the old Randy, after the failed Braylon experiment) then he will take the top off of D's to open it up for Manningham, VD, and Crabtree.

Despite what people think on here, our top 3 WRs will be one hell of a problem for opposing teams, add in VD and we're more then capable of destroying teams through the air. So we already have the personel, but will our offense evolve from what it was 2011 and take advantage of the talent or will it continue to underachieve thanks in part to multiple reasons.
- Greg Roman's conservative play calls
- Alex Smith's short leash for preventing turnovers
- WRs inability to separate or in some cases flat out catch

In year 2 I see all of these reasons being corrected.

Back on topic, No I do not see WR as a must in round 1. If we dont land Schwartz today then we'd better go Guard in round 1 for Konz or even trade up for DeCastro. Right now our priorities are honestly

1a. Guard - Kilgore a 2nd year borderline day 2 pick is currently slated to start. Clearly need to sign Geoff Schwartz or go guard in round 1 if we dont land him.
1b. Center - Without Snyder we dont have a backup center on the roster and Goodwin's play could fall off at any point and it was already somewhat suspect anyway.
2. Receiver - As of now our "#1" is locked up for 3 years(3rd is voidable) and "#2" is under contract for 2 more years, #3 in on a 1 year deal, #4 is under contract for 2 more years. We can easily afford to look to the middle/late rounds for a "#1 in training" that would be able to take over if say the Moss experiment fails, or in 2 years Manningham leaves in FA or Crabtree's contract gets voided. Maybe we carry 6 receivers this year and also draft a KR specialist as our 6th WR and pair him with Perrish Cox on KRs and PRs.

After that you could argue the various ranks of the other needs as they are all for backup roles or would end up playing behind players like Goldson, Willis, Ray Mac, etc.

sorry for the mega long read, but if Stephen Hill is there at 30 and I'm picking between him or BPA other positions I'd take Hill in a heart beat.
[ Edited by sfout on Mar 20, 2012 at 12:06 PM ]