"Were we watching the same game? Did you somehow miss Hernandez repeatedly gashing the Giants, over and over again, for a touchdown and 1st down after 1st down, or a gimpy Gronkowski making a huge catch over the middle of the field. If anything that game showed the value of having explosive tight-ends. The Giants receivers looked great against a shoddy Patriots secondary, but realistically there's not many receivers who didn't this year. Manningham made his big catch against Julian F'n Edelman for crying out loud......that really isn't saying much."
Yes, we were watching the same game. Yes, I saw how Hernandez repeatedly gashed the Giants over and over. But I saw how that didn't help NE win. You can site NE's DB's and that everyone that played NE's D looked well all you want. It still don't change the fact that NE's TE mismatch/playmakers could not match that of NY's WR mismatches.
The Giants could have used a big tight-end when their receivers were locked down on several 3 and out's. The Patriots didn't have as much trouble moving the ball down the field as they did have big whiffs from both their receivers and tight-ends. Brady was placing the ball pretty well and guys simply didn't step up to make plays, that happens, but the Giants seemed to flail around helplessly when the Patriots were moving the ball and Boley looked absolutely HELPLESS to stop Hernandez.
Has nothing to do with my central point. Boley looking "absolutely HELPLESS" meant nothing to the end result. In fact, I think it proves my point as to why the 49ers don't need to select a TE in the 1st round, especially seeing that we already have two good ones and decent one. I do agree, though, that NE had guys (the WR's) who didn't step up. And for this reason, I bet NE take a WR in the first (or spend for one in FA), even if Fleener is there for them.
To me, that game reiterated what a great advantage it is to have two very good tight-ends, as well as a top-notch defense. An explosive, big-tight end does more for this team than a slow, fat-f**k receiver like Jeffery or a guy who catches the ball using his body the way Floyd does. The 49ers have two serviceable possession receivers in Morgan and Crabtree, they don't need anymore.
Obviously, not only were we indeed watching two different games, but two different 49er seasons as well. "Serviceable"?, Good lord man, the 49ers won't win a Super Bowl or even go deeper into the playoffs with "two serviceable possession receivers" unless there is a real legit #1 WR in front of them both who commands double teams! And I disagree with you about Jeffery and Floyd (and so would most scouts). Either of those guys would be #1 on our team, in the least a big upgrade to the WR's we have on our WR depth chart. Morgan is a solid #2. Crabs would be your "serviceable" #3 in my book because "serviceable" is about all he's shown me. He needs to be at least pushed with drafted 3rd, 4th, or 5th round talent.
They need one guy who is an absolute burner and can stretch the field like crazy, that's not Floyd, Sanu and especially not Jeffery. If they could somehow get Kendall Wright, that would be a huge addition, but mostly they need a big playmaker in the middle of the field and call me crazy but I can't think of a top contender in the NFC that can shut down two top tight-ends, on the other hand, the Giants among other teams have shown they can shut down two top receivers and did so convincingly against the Packers
Did not Kyle Williams prove he can burn people down field in 2011? Kendall Wright is good, but we don't need anymore 5-11, 180 tweener types for our type of offense. We have two of them (Ginn and Williams). BTW, the Giants could stop NE's TE's but they was able to win with their wide-outs.
Playmaker is this team's BIGGEST need and I see a play-making tight-end that is far more ready to contribute right off the bat than any receiver available late in the 1st round. Points on the board are what count, put 2 top tight-ends on the field together makes life miserable for defenses and makes putting points on the board a hell of a lot easier. Especially considering Delanie Walker is essentially a guy without a position. At 6'0" he'd be the smallest starting tight-end in football. 6'0" guy going across the middle of the field....or 6'6" guy with better hands going across the middle of the field, its obvious which makes a quarterback's life easier.
Ok: So we draft Fleener. So who starts and just what do we do with D. Walker (a starter on most teams) and N. Byham? Do we really draft a first rounder who we don't project to start by at least year two? If so, then why the hell would we spend a 1st on a projected backup? If not, then do we really bring V. Davis off the bench, and start Fleener in his 2nd year? (Dose anyone really think Fleener is that good?) And if the later is the case then I can see this being a disaster the locker room. V. Davis would not be happy coming off the bench in the least, or worst demand a trade at some point, rightfully so. That could push him back into his old me-first ways. D. Walker would be right in not wanting to reduce his role and be the 3rd TE when he could start for most NFL teams.
See, for me this is elementary. Teams look for starters in the first round. I don't care how good he is, you don't draft a blue chip TE in the 1st round on a team with a very established blue chip TE star, another who would be a starter on most teams, and a good banger TE, all already on the roster. It just doesn't make sense from a roster standpoint. Aside from the fact that you would be drafting an un-needed position - in the first round no less - you run the risk of of disrupting an already very tight locker room. I just don't see Trent Baalke and Jim Harbaugh going down the TE round in the first.