Originally posted by IdahoNiner:Sounds like you and I are actually pretty much of the same mind.
Originally posted by TheFunkyChicken:
Originally posted by IdahoNiner:
Originally posted by TXNinerFan52:
Originally posted by IdahoNiner:
I would not be willing to spend the #30 pick on this guy. Someone will drop, and we should snag BPA in the first.
I do like him or hill at our second round pick, but in the first is too early IMO. Take BPA in the first, then take one of the large second teir guys in the second. Then take a sleeper pick guy like Elvis Akpla In the final rounds. I fully expect atleast two WR to be drafted this year.
Give me an example who you would like to see drop to #30? If we don't sign a free agent WR we better hope Rueben Randle drops to the 49ers at #30. If Randle makes it pass us at #30 I don't expect him to last pass #42. If we pass on Rueben at #30 and he don't last pass #42 how is it a reach if we draft him at #30?
Randle is a reach because there are several other WR with his measurables and skillsets that will be available in the second and third. I would much rather have Hill/streeter in the second/third. Dont get me wrong, I like randle, but lets face it him being a first round talent is a reach. Most people on this board didnt have a clue who he was before Kiper's mock. Not to mention there is huge depth in the later rounds on possible sleeper WR. And to assume we wont sign a WR in FA is not realistic. We have two WR under contract. FA's will be signed and rookies will be drafted.
The fact of the mater is there is no way that Randle will be the BPA at that pick. If the team picks him its because they are reaching to fill a need and not because he was the BPA.
You are right, there are so many good WR prospects in this draft that there are bound to be highly regarded players available in the 2nd and 3rd.
The only problem is, more than half of the highly regarded players aren't going to turn into good NFL players. Even though this WR class looks great all the way through the top 25, in reality only 5 or so of them will actually become good NFL players.
If our scouts feel like they know which guy in that group is likely to be one of the few that actually becomes a good pro, then I'd much rather see them go after that guy aggressively instead of waiting and getting a "value" pick that never becomes anything.
Maximizing value is great for mock drafts, but not always the best for real NFL drafts.
If Baalke has a first round grade on Randle than i have no problem with the pic. If they reach because they are trying to fill a need that can be filled with equal talent in later rounds than i have a problem with it.
Personally i have Randle ranked slightly ahead of Hill and Streeter, But i don't have a first round grade on any of them. This is where baalke earns his money. If he likes him in the first i will accept that, right now i personally don't.
I would not be taking any of the WR that will be left in the first at #30 but that is just me.
I agree, when I look at this group I think the same thing: someone good is bound to drop. And since I don't see a huge difference between any of the guys from Randle to Toon, I would probably wait if I were running the draft.
But then that's why I'm not running the draft
I would hope Baalke actually really does see a difference between those players. Although if there's one position that the 9ers have shown no skill at projecting over the last decade, it's WR.
A complete "steal" at 10. Now he's not even a number one and is just a solid two? That just pisses me off and makes me jaded to this whole process. None of these clowns like Mayock and Kiper had any idea how good Aldon Smith could be, if they did they would of jizzed all over the camera when he was drafted. Truth is, no one knows anything.
