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I dislike the Chiefs' and Broncos' picks
Originally posted by dhp318:
Originally posted by GhostofFredDean74:
Again, these are all early projections, but I think the Eagles will continue to dip into free agency as they did last year to address their other key needs, because they're in a win-now mode. Plus, Reid tends to really like developing young lineman (offense/defense), and they tend to be less risky in the first round. You can usually plug in an OT/OG or even a DT and get production out of them early on.

So yes, he definitely could go d-line here, but I don't see him using a relatively high pick on a LB or WR (too risky for Reid's taste, IMO).

Not to mention, DeCastro is a stud lineman who will make any offensive line better the minute he walks in to the huddle.

Reid has used a 1st rounder on a WR before in Maclin, and honestly, LB is one of the safest picks you can make, they can usually contribute right away. Although I wouldn't be surprised if they did pick up an OL, they did just pick one up last year as well in Watkins.


I was referring more to tendancies, since there are really no absolutes in the draft. Reid tends to go for lineman and tends not to draft WRs, LBs or DBs in the first (only 1 DB and 2 WRs in his 13 years at Philly...Maclin worked out, Freddie Mitchell didn't). Yes, LBs are relatively safe, but they're also typically undervalued unless they offer crazy pass rush skills or they'll be part of a 3-4 defense which relies heavily on great LB play. But spending a top 15 pick on a 4-3 LB that doesn't give you great pass rush is not entirely great value. It happens obviously, but it definitely isn't Reid's tendancy. If I had to do it again, I'd choose a DT for Philly instead.

But again, I'm just playing the odds, knowing that needs will change drastically based on free agent signings/departures.
[ Edited by GhostofFredDean74 on Jan 17, 2012 at 10:21 AM ]
Originally posted by GhostofFredDean74:
Originally posted by m_brockalexander:
Good to hear from you Ghost. Just one question on the Eagles pick. You really think Reid will ignore the Eagles glaring needs of DT, LB, and WR to go for Decastro. Tell us why............

Again, these are all early projections, but I think the Eagles will continue to dip into free agency as they did last year to address their other key needs, because they're in a win-now mode. Plus, Reid tends to really like developing young lineman (offense/defense), and they tend to be less risky in the first round. You can usually plug in an OT/OG or even a DT and get production out of them early on.

So yes, he definitely could go d-line here, but I don't see him using a relatively high pick on a LB or WR (too risky for Reid's taste, IMO).

Not to mention, DeCastro is a stud lineman who will make any offensive line better the minute he walks in to the huddle.

So, you think the Eagles and Reid are going to go down the "Dream Team" route again in free agency? That did not turn out the way they wanted it to this year.

I see your line of reasoning on DeCastro, but the wounds of this year's season are pretty fresh in regards to free agency. Just a thought......
They don't necessarily have to spend a ton of money in free agency, they could go bargain hunting like we did last year and come up with a few solid veterans that can help them win now.
Konz at 32 is wet dream...if you don't see it, you can't touch it!!!



Nice Mock, Ghost!!!
Enjoyed the mock as well. I'm always a big supporter of OL attention, so I like the SF pick just fine. Goodwin is only decent and will likely regress soon enough. We can get Kilgore focused on OG with this pick.
I actually toyed with the idea of Lamar Miller, RB from Miami as our 1st round pick. He's got Chris Johnson/Felix Jones-type of ability (4.35ish speed/elusiveness) in a 5'10, 215lb frame. He hasn't been looked at closely enough yet because most thought he'd return (RS soph), but could move up the boards quickly as people see what kind of talent he has. Can you imagine a 3-back rotation in 2012 of Gore (grizzled veteran), Hunter (3rd down specialist in the making) and Miller (game-changer)???

He's definitely raw, but Frank could spend a few years showing him how to prepare/play in the NFL, and the fact that he doesn't have a lot of mileage on his legs (RS freshman year, 2 years of college experience, only total 335 carries) will serve him well over the length of his NFL career.

[ Edited by GhostofFredDean74 on Jan 18, 2012 at 10:01 AM ]
Originally posted by GhostofFredDean74:
I actually toyed with the idea of Lamar Miller, RB from Miami as our 1st round pick. He's got Chris Johnson/Felix Jones-type of ability (4.35ish speed/elusiveness) in a 5'10, 215lb frame. He hasn't been looked at closely enough yet because most thought he'd return (RS soph), but could move up the boards quickly as people see what kind of talent he has. Can you imagine a 3-back rotation in 2012 of Gore (grizzled veteran), Hunter (3rd down specialist in the making) and Miller (game-changer)???

He's definitely raw, but Frank could spend a few years showing how him how to prepare/play in the NFL, and the fact that he doesn't have a lot of mileage on his legs (RS freshman year, 2 years of college experience, only total 335 carries) will serve him well over the length of his NFL career.



Honestly, I wouldn't be mad if we drafted Miller. I know running back isn't a huge need, but we have the benefit of drafting late meaning that our current squad is pretty damn good that we have this luxury.

I've been watching Lamar Miller since the Virginia Tech game and I'm very impressed with him. He runs quick like Chris Johnson but he's got power like McGahee did coming out of Miami.
Originally posted by GhostofFredDean74:
I actually toyed with the idea of Lamar Miller, RB from Miami as our 1st round pick. He's got Chris Johnson/Felix Jones-type of ability (4.35ish speed/elusiveness) in a 5'10, 215lb frame. He hasn't been looked at closely enough yet because most thought he'd return (RS soph), but could move up the boards quickly as people see what kind of talent he has. Can you imagine a 3-back rotation in 2012 of Gore (grizzled veteran), Hunter (3rd down specialist in the making) and Miller (game-changer)???

He's definitely raw, but Frank could spend a few years showing how him how to prepare/play in the NFL, and the fact that he doesn't have a lot of mileage on his legs (RS freshman year, 2 years of college experience, only total 335 carries) will serve him well over the length of his NFL career.


Whoa! Ghost! Now we're talking!

If Konz is as good as hyped, I'd love to see him in a Niner uniform. But, if he's that good, he may not be there.

But this Lamar Miller kid--good size, great speed, tough, good vision. Can he pass protect?

The video makes him look like a faster version of Frank.

Gore, Hunter and . . . another Miller. I like it!
[ Edited by oldninerdude on Jan 18, 2012 at 10:03 AM ]
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Originally posted by GhostofFredDean74:
They don't necessarily have to spend a ton of money in free agency, they could go bargain hunting like we did last year and come up with a few solid veterans that can help them win now.
i wish more people could see the big picture like fred always seems to.It is not about the splashy high priced free agents,, it is for the right person, the person that fits into our system and for the first time in ten years, i have total confidence in our coaches to go out and find these people. the niners played it so smartly last year, letting all of the other teams go nuts and waiting for the right person and the right situation, its not that hard to figure out
Originally posted by cciowa:
Originally posted by GhostofFredDean74:
They don't necessarily have to spend a ton of money in free agency, they could go bargain hunting like we did last year and come up with a few solid veterans that can help them win now.
i wish more people could see the big picture like fred always seems to.It is not about the splashy high priced free agents,, it is for the right person, the person that fits into our system and for the first time in ten years, i have total confidence in our coaches to go out and find these people. the niners played it so smartly last year, letting all of the other teams go nuts and waiting for the right person and the right situation, its not that hard to figure out

I think they could use Miller like the Vikings use Harvin if he has good hands. With that size he could be a utility man that they line up all over the field. Solid draft. Would love the Konz pick. I really would love for Poe to fall to them. Still not feeling the idea of the skins taking Tanenhill at number 6 though. I think Kirkpatrick will slip a little and TB might stay away from him after dealing with Talib.
Originally posted by cciowa:
Originally posted by GhostofFredDean74:
They don't necessarily have to spend a ton of money in free agency, they could go bargain hunting like we did last year and come up with a few solid veterans that can help them win now.
i wish more people could see the big picture like fred always seems to.It is not about the splashy high priced free agents,, it is for the right person, the person that fits into our system and for the first time in ten years, i have total confidence in our coaches to go out and find these people. the niners played it so smartly last year, letting all of the other teams go nuts and waiting for the right person and the right situation, its not that hard to figure out
Face it, signing some big name, making a big splash in the media, makes it LOOK like you're doing the job as GM.

Spending hours looking at tape, spending hours talking with staff about team needs, interviewing players, reviewing scouting reports--none of that is as visible or as flashy, its just hard work, and doesn't impress (some) fans as much. Baalke appears to take this latter approach. It seems to be paying off.
Oldy - Not sure if Miller can pass protect (probably not), but Frank could take him under his wing and not only show him what to do, but explain how critical pass protection is. Btw, he was timed at 4.30 in the spring, second fastest Hurricane next to a cornerback.
Originally posted by cciowa:
Originally posted by GhostofFredDean74:
They don't necessarily have to spend a ton of money in free agency, they could go bargain hunting like we did last year and come up with a few solid veterans that can help them win now.
i wish more people could see the big picture like fred always seems to.It is not about the splashy high priced free agents,, it is for the right person, the person that fits into our system and for the first time in ten years, i have total confidence in our coaches to go out and find these people. the niners played it so smartly last year, letting all of the other teams go nuts and waiting for the right person and the right situation, its not that hard to figure out


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