1st round Ghost mocking

I can live with Konz

yea i said before i didnt want a O lineman in the 1st but Konz would be my only exception, esp. with no 1st rd worthy CBs or WRs left

Konz is borderline elite, and like Nick Perry, won't last nearly that long on draft day. Also, "dreadful secondary" for the Lions? Are you sure? Look at their roster, their secondary is full of great young players.

I think at this point, it's a little much to say Upshaw will go top 10.

But as for us, Konz is one the guys I would be ecstatic to have.

Originally posted by RollinWith21n52:

Konz is borderline elite, and like Nick Perry, won't last nearly that long on draft day. Also, "dreadful secondary" for the Lions? Are you sure? Look at their roster, their secondary is full of great young players.

They were decimated by injuries, but their secondary is terrible outside of a couple guys. Mainly it's filled with inconsistent players. Houston or Delmas is the best player in the secondary, but both of them were hurt too. They could use a new starter at almost every spot.

Detroit could upgrade over their current SS Spievey, inconsistent CB Wright, and fourth corner for sure (Berry and McDonald, just embarrassing).

Like I said, it's early and so many things will happen between now and draft day....not sure anyone can really say with much certainty right now that "so-and-so won't last that long," unless we're talking about a handful of the top-tier guys (Luck, Kalil, Claiborne, Griffin, etc.).

Detroit has some nice young safeties, but their CBs had a tough year and I'm not sure if Eric Wright and Chris Houston qualify as "great." That said, dreadful was an overstatement...it's late and I'm tired.

Oh, and Nick Mangold was considered an elite center prospect as well when he came out, but was drafted 29th overall. Like safeties and ILBs (and OGs, to a certain extent), they're just valued differently than other positions. Still, I could see the Ravens pulling the trigger on Konz as a replacement for Matt Birk.

Originally posted by GhostofFredDean74:
Like I said, it's early and so many things will happen between now and draft day....not sure anyone can really say with much certainty right now that "so-and-so won't last that long," unless we're talking about a handful of the top-tier guys (Luck, Kalil, Claiborne, Griffin, etc.).

Detroit has some nice young safeties, but their CBs had a tough year and I'm not sure if Eric Wright and Chris Houston qualify as "great." That said, dreadful was an overstatement...it's late and I'm tired.

Oh, and Nick Mangold was considered an elite center prospect as well when he came out, but was drafted 29th overall. Like safeties and ILBs (and OGs, to a certain extent), they're just valued differently than other positions. Still, I could see the Ravens pulling the trigger on Konz as a replacement for Matt Birk.

Dreadful was an overstatement. So was "great". I think the Lions have some good young players in that secondary, but I'll agree that they wouldn't be crazy to upgrade. Especially having to face Rodgers and Cutler 4 times/year. As for C's, you bring up a good point with Mangold, but I think the trend has been moving toward taking interior linemen earlier, especially with the success of guys like Mangold and Pouncey. That being said, if we draft 32nd (w/o trades) I would be happy with just about anyone.

I'd be shocked if Kirpatrick went that high

Good mock, Ghost.

Good to hear from you Ghost. Just one question on the Eagles pick. You really think Reid will ignore the Eagles glaring needs of DT, LB, and WR to go for Decastro. Tell us why............

Originally posted by m_brockalexander:
Good to hear from you Ghost. Just one question on the Eagles pick. You really think Reid will ignore the Eagles glaring needs of DT, LB, and WR to go for Decastro. Tell us why............

Again, these are all early projections, but I think the Eagles will continue to dip into free agency as they did last year to address their other key needs, because they're in a win-now mode. Plus, Reid tends to really like developing young lineman (offense/defense), and they tend to be less risky in the first round. You can usually plug in an OT/OG or even a DT and get production out of them early on.

So yes, he definitely could go d-line here, but I don't see him using a relatively high pick on a LB or WR (too risky for Reid's taste, IMO).

Not to mention, DeCastro is a stud lineman who will make any offensive line better the minute he walks in to the huddle.

Too early! lets wait and see what free agents we can draw here, then let Baalke pick best available.

Originally posted by HarryPeterson:
Too early! lets wait and see what free agents we can draw here, then let Baalke pick best available.

Originally posted by GhostofFredDean74:
Again, these are all early projections, but I think the Eagles will continue to dip into free agency as they did last year to address their other key needs, because they're in a win-now mode. Plus, Reid tends to really like developing young lineman (offense/defense), and they tend to be less risky in the first round. You can usually plug in an OT/OG or even a DT and get production out of them early on.

So yes, he definitely could go d-line here, but I don't see him using a relatively high pick on a LB or WR (too risky for Reid's taste, IMO).

Not to mention, DeCastro is a stud lineman who will make any offensive line better the minute he walks in to the huddle.

Reid has used a 1st rounder on a WR before in Maclin, and honestly, LB is one of the safest picks you can make, they can usually contribute right away. Although I wouldn't be surprised if they did pick up an OL, they did just pick one up last year as well in Watkins.