Originally posted by kronik:
Originally posted by sfout:
Originally posted by kronik:
Originally posted by pete98146:
RB is a luxury pick for the Niners this year. We need to address our biggest area of concern and that's our 3rd down conversion rate/red zone production. How do you improve this? Either by picking up speedy receivers or giving our QB more time. I do think we've improved our WR corp from last year but drafting another one early makes sense. Fleener would help out in this area. Last but certainly not least, shoring up the RG spot is a huge priority.
So, I can see the Niners selecting Hill, Wright, Fleener, Zeitler*, Konz, Glenn or Osemele* with our first pick before we invest in a RB. Also, next years RB class is said to be superb. We can wait on a RB and survive with Gore, Hunter, Dixon (?), mid round pick RB..
*= trade back.
And Fleener (3rd TE) is not a luxury pick???
he'd be the 2nd TE....Anyone on here who thinks DWalk is a TE is kidding themelves. He is a H-Back/Utility man and if JH wants to completely implement his offense he will need as many purebred TEs whether they are pass catchers/blockers (VD/Fleener) or strictly blockers (Byham) as he can get.
Even if that is true, D Walker will be on the field. ALong with VD, at least 5 linemen, 1QB, 1RB and most likely 2 WR's (unless in short yardage situations). That makes 11 on the field. Not to mention our FB getting plenty of snaps and sometimes more than 5 linemen.
It's laughable to think Fleener will play ahead of D. Walker next year barring injuries.
no its not. you're not looking at the whole picture, Walker isn't a TE he is an H-Back, therefor if we draft a TE like Fleener who who has spent 4 years in the system he'd probably instantly become the #2 TE. Walker would see the field on packages outside of the base offense. Just because he has more experience doesnt meant he'd play over Fleener. Fleener's size, skill set, speed and knowledge of the system would put him ahead of Walker almost immediately. I did see you're post in the Coby Fleener thread about Byham though, I'm really excited to see him come back, I'd love to see how he does in this system.
Threads about Wilson though so I'm done arguing about Fleener. We'll have to wait and see if we bring any other RBs in for visits but despite Cohn's opinion of us not drafting an RB because "dixon is a former baalke pick" is completely off base, part of being a good GM is recognizing when your picks haven't panned out and having the balls to admit you want a do over. Dixon was a 7th round pick so cutting the cord would barely even touch the wallet, that being said if we have the chance to add a day 1 or early day 2 RB and have sit on the bench for "gore's 1 last good season" then by all means we should do it. Giving an RB like Wilson, Martin, Turbin the chance to learn from Gore would be amazing for his long term success.
At this point I'd probably put my personal big board for our 1st rounder at.
- Hill
- Wilson
- Fleener
- Konz
- Brockers
Wilson might just be too great of a talent to pass up much like people are saying about Fleener and Hill so its kind of a toss up.
[ Edited by sfout on Mar 27, 2012 at 5:32 PM ]
Gore was hurt all late season and in the playoffs. He kept taking himself out of the games for long stretches. Putting Dixon in on 3rd and 1's so he could dance around and fail. Which cost us. Gore has a lot of miles and is declining. Anybody can see it. RB is more important to this team than most. We are ball control, not too many turnovers and defense and special teams. Although RB importance has declined somewhat with the rule changes it hasn't declined for us IMO.
