Originally posted by Travisty13:
Great job OTC. Been waiting for the new mock for awhile. Question though, where do you see Ponder going now after the combine? Do you think he will be there when we pick in the 2nd, and do you see Baalke/Harbaugh pulling the trigger to get him? Or do you see him going to one of the teams before us? If he's there when we pick, do you see him being the pick over House? Or do you see Dalton as their target QB? I also like the Deandre Brown pick. He's a huge WR, with alright speed (4.59), good strength, just needs to learn better route-running but I think he can be a great threat for us.
Originally posted by m_brockalexander:
Like the two pass rusher picks. That issue has to be addressed once and for all.
A little skeptical of the 2nd and 3rd round picks. If Ponder was available in the second, I would jump on him at that point over waiting for Dalton in the third. Then again, finding a quality CB in the third would be harder than getting a good developmental QB.
Nice work!
You know, brock, I wouldn't disagree with either move -- unless we missed out on both. And Trav, Ponder should go in the 2nd round. I see no reason to believe he'll fall past that. I believe it's 50-50 on whether we draft him. Depends on whether or not Baalke values Ponder high enough over other BPA's and whether or not he feels we'll find just as good if not better value later in the draft.
Originally posted by lamontb:
Originally posted by jreff22:
Originally posted by GhostofFredDean74:
SD, AB and SWAG's collective heads are going to explode, but I actually think Carolina will end up taking Gabbert #1 overall. Not that he's worthy (IMO), but the old adage holds true, that if you don't have a franchise QB and you THINK he could be one, you pull the trigger.
If Carolina had a 2nd rounder, and they liked Ponder a lot, I could see them going defense with the #1 overall pick then targeting Ponder...but they don't, so they have to make a franchise-defining move with this #1 overall. Keep in mind also, Jimmy Clausen was the previous coaching staff's mistake, not this one. IMO, they go in a new direction at QB, and that will be Gabbert.
~Once the CBA is agreed upon, Carolina signs veteran Billy Volek as the starter
~They trade Clausen for whatever they can get for him
~They draft Gabbert and groom him as the QB of the future
~St. Pierre and Null fight it out for the 3rd string QB spot
Other than that, I love your mock OTC. 
Don't see it...just don't. The only time Gabberts name gained momentum was when Luck announced he was staying in school. He filled a void that Cam was unable to at that point. I'm really not a fan of any of these guys but I still think Cam is the first QB taken.
But we all know what's gonna happen when he wow's people at his pro day. They gonna look at how his measurables at the combine were on par with Newton. And his stock will begin to rise. Plus they will hype up a qb duel at the top of the draft b/c it gets more attention than Suh vs Mccoy duel. I agree that so far Gabbert main bump came when Luck stayed in school. And his 2nd bump came from other qb's not looking so great at the combine while he didn't throw at all. Him risisng to the top of the draft really isn't that crazy. I agree he's not worth it, but his agents now how to ramp up the hype and how to position him.
Hey OTC can you explain that ATL pick. I know TG isn't getting any younger, but they really could use some help defensively, or even a number 2 wr than a tight end.
Gabbert's Pro Day will be huge. If he impresses, and he probably will, he's going to shoot up every board -- including this one -- to first overall.
For Atlanta: There's always that one, "Well, hmm.. I guess it makes sense but they could've taken someone else" kind of pick in the draft, and I think this will be one of them. I think they just plan for the future and select the best prospect at the position to succeed Tony. If they don't, I see them going after a DB. After Rudolph, five other names they could take a look at are:
WR Torrey Smith, WR Leonard Hankerson, OL Pouncey, OT Sherrod, or CB Brandon Harris (would be a reach).
Originally posted by oldman9er:
Hate to be one of "those guys", but it's Devine... Noel Devine.
... and I really love this mock draft, OTC... bravo. 
Chalk it up to sleep deprivation -- I posted this around 3 AM.
Originally posted by GhostofFredDean74:
SD, AB and SWAG's collective heads are going to explode, but I actually think Carolina will end up taking Gabbert #1 overall. Not that he's worthy (IMO), but the old adage holds true, that if you don't have a franchise QB and you THINK he could be one, you pull the trigger.
If Carolina had a 2nd rounder, and they liked Ponder a lot, I could see them going defense with the #1 overall pick then targeting Ponder...but they don't, so they have to make a franchise-defining move with this #1 overall. Keep in mind also, Jimmy Clausen was the previous coaching staff's mistake, not this one. IMO, they go in a new direction at QB, and that will be Gabbert.
~Once the CBA is agreed upon, Carolina signs veteran Billy Volek as the starter
~They trade Clausen for whatever they can get for him
~They draft Gabbert and groom him as the QB of the future
~St. Pierre and Null fight it out for the 3rd string QB spot
Other than that, I love your mock OTC.
Ghost, and to all the others who might be going haywire after seeing Newton #1 overall, you could be spot on. Honestly, it was a toss up for me -- I started out with Gabbert first overall.. then changed to Newton.. then back to Gabbert.. then back to Newton.
As MD said, a Newton selection would create a heck of a buzz. My question is, Do they see just too much in terms of physical ability and potential to pass? For this mock, I'm saying they bite. The next one? Gosh, who knows, but my scattered mind tells me the next mock you see closer to draft time will probably have Gabbert or Bowers going there. Well. Maybe. Possibly. Maybe not. But maybe.
[ Edited by OnTheClock on Mar 3, 2011 at 11:19:43 ]
Love the Quinn pick. Also a big fan of the Romeus pick. What a lot of people forget is that he was a 1st round talent prior to last season and his injury hurt his stock.