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I think it depends on Gibson. If they think he can start eventually, I'd go CB.

Otherwise, I'd rather start Brown & Spencer at CB than Haralson & Brooks at OLB.

jmo

[ Edited by Overkill on Jan 31, 2011 at 19:54:31 ]
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My priorities:

1. Patrick Peterson
2. Marcell Dareus
3. Da'Quan Bowers - He would be second on the list, but very unlikely he'll be there at #7.
4. Von Miller
5. Prince Amukamara

No matter what Patrick Peterson has to be the pick.
Originally posted by valrod33:
Von Miller in the 1st and Smith or Brown from CU in the 2nd. Yes we can have both

This
Originally posted by TheGoldDiggerrrr:
Originally posted by WillistheWall:
Originally posted by LifelongNiner:
Originally posted by WillistheWall:
I'll take Marcell Dareus or Cam Jordan please. If you want to know why just look at San Diego's 3-4. They don't have a bunch of great linebackers but they have 2 badass defensive ends, Cesaire and Luis Castillo. They had the #1 ranked defense in the league btw.

Taking nothing away from Pittsburghs D-line, but they have badass LBs, and have consistently had a top 5 defense. Our D-line is fine and is the strongest unit on our defense. We need a pash rush.

Hood was a first round pick, Hampton is a top NT, and Kiesel is really good. Pittsburgh's LBs consist of an UDFA in Harrison, a 2nd rounder in Woodley, Timmons was a first round pick(ILB) and Farrior was a 1st but they traded for him. They managed to find good OLBs outside of the first round brah.

The dline is good at stoping the run, justin and ray mcdonald are the only passrushers. Didn't we sign an olb from the steelers??

Yeah we got Pittsburgh's 4th round pick, Thaddeus Gibson. It's possible he can actually play pretty well with some coaching. I mean we already have some developmental OLBs in Gibson, Bowman(yeah I know he was supposed to be the TED, but I think he's better attacking than being PWillis's blocker or dropping into coverage and he played OLB in college), and Brooks. We already have Haralson who is average but has produced before. Possibly will bring LaBoy back. Then there are some decent options later on in the draft, Sam Acho, Greg Romeus, Brooks Reed, and even a guy like KJ Wright who could learn the position and be another developmental guy(I believe Mayock said that teams were looking at him as a 3-4 OLB because of his size and athleticism).

It just makes more sense to me to get a guy who could make the guys we have better. If you look at the Chargers D, they had some guys who were platoon guys basically and developmental guys opposite Shaun Phillips. Both of Pittsburgh's 2 OLBs were developed. I could really see Dareus and Jordan making life easier on the guys we already have. It's not like Soap demands a double team or gets much penetration. Ray Mac is mainly used on 3rd downs and is a FA. Justin Smith and Franklin are both 30(Justin might be 31). We could use some young talent at the position. Plus on 3rd downs, you are probably not going to be in your base defense anyway so a guy like Dareus would slide inside with Justin Smith and get some pressure. Or Jordan could play the end in a 4 man front also, and get pressure.

OLB is a real risky pick. These guys could be really good but OLBs turn into busts quite often(Maybin, Gholston, to name a few). 3-4 DEs are pretty hard to find and the 2 guys available look like they will transition to the NFL real well, since they both already played 3-4 DE and don't have to make a transition like most guys picked at the spot do. They also have applied pressure from the 3-4 spot which means they got to the passer even while being double teamed.
Originally posted by Overkill:
I think it depends on Gibson. If they think he can start eventually, I'd go CB.

Otherwise, I'd rather start Brown & Spencer at CB than Haralson & Brooks at OLB.

jmo

I'd rather see lawson & brooks!
Originally posted by TheGoldDiggerrrr:
Originally posted by Overkill:
I think it depends on Gibson. If they think he can start eventually, I'd go CB.

Otherwise, I'd rather start Brown & Spencer at CB than Haralson & Brooks at OLB.

jmo

I'd rather see lawson & brooks!

Depending on what it took to re-sign Lawson, I can live with that if it gives me a good young corner.
Miller in the 1st and Smith in the 2nd.
Originally posted by valrod33:
Von Miller in the 1st and Smith or Brown from CU in the 2nd. Yes we can have both

Where's our QB? No QB after 2nd round excites me. They'd all be multi year projects.
Originally posted by 80849er4life:
Miller in the 1st and Smith in the 2nd.

who is smith?
Originally posted by TheGoldDiggerrrr:
Originally posted by Overkill:
I think it depends on Gibson. If they think he can start eventually, I'd go CB.

Otherwise, I'd rather start Brown & Spencer at CB than Haralson & Brooks at OLB.

jmo

I'd rather see lawson & brooks!
what's so special about that guy??? he was hyped last year either...
Originally posted by ishkabibel:
Originally posted by valrod33:
Von Miller in the 1st and Smith or Brown from CU in the 2nd. Yes we can have both

Where's our QB? No QB after 2nd round excites me. They'd all be multi year projects.
in this draft any qb but mallett is a project...mallett has to learn how to move and how to NOT throw stupid interceptions but he is very accurate, imo. the bowl game was amazing mostly.

[ Edited by communist on Feb 1, 2011 at 15:22:43 ]
Originally posted by mofiman1:
Originally posted by 80849er4life:
Miller in the 1st and Smith in the 2nd.

who is smith?

Jimmy Smith CB out of Colorado
Originally posted by LifelongNiner:
Originally posted by WillistheWall:
I'll take Marcell Dareus or Cam Jordan please. If you want to know why just look at San Diego's 3-4. They don't have a bunch of great linebackers but they have 2 badass defensive ends, Cesaire and Luis Castillo. They had the #1 ranked defense in the league btw.

Taking nothing away from Pittsburghs D-line, but they have badass LBs, and have consistently had a top 5 defense. Our D-line is fine and is the strongest unit on our defense. We need a pash rush.

How many top 10 picks currently play in the Steelers' LB corps? They are awesome because they actually can spot and develop talent to fit their system. Damn I wish we had Dick LeBeau ...
Aren't you guys tired on relying on a pass rush from the guys we currently have?

I remember having this argument with tons of you last year when the CJ Spiller hype train was in full force.

This is what happened last few years,

Manny Lawson while a great guy and pretty good player just isn't a good pass rusher, he had his best year in 2009 and everyone thought he was going to break out in 2010 in his contract year - Result - FAIL

Parys Haralson put up decent sack numbers playing as a 3rd down rush guy aka he played in mainly situations where the offense was going to pass so he could safely rush. The niners signed him to a decent contract and put him in as a full time starter - Result - Epic FAIL

Ahmad Brooks looked pretty good in limited, once again 3rd down situations. God a decent contract and while you can blame his injury early in the year did minimal on the field.

Enough is enough...it's time to get that one legit guy who can CONSISTENTLY cause problems for the other teams QB and someone who can play near Willis and someone who will cause headaches for the OC - DO you try to block that guy or Patrick? It opens up everyone else to play better - including the other ILB/OLB and ALL the DBs.

One thing you pro corner early guys forget is because the corner is so far back the other team can still try and get Willis out of the game and just avoid throwing against that corner(if he's even good enough to shut down a whole side which is incredibly rare)

We already have Patrick Willis, put a guy next to him who can be a force and a headache for the other team and the whole defense will make a HUGE step forward.
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