First 2011 Offseason Mock

Originally posted by GoldenGateFan:
quoted.

This is actually one Chilo trade I can see happening. But no way does Shanahan give up a 2 for a RB. He can make a RB out of anyone and he needs picks badly. Hell Ryan Torain had a higher YPC than Gore this year, almost as many yards, and is 3 years younger. TB will want more than a 6 for Johnson too I believe. Hes an above average backup. And what in the hell is the use if you are also picking up Hasslebeck?

i'm sorry, I just hate these mocks that have us taking Hasselbeck

Originally posted by teeohh:
i'm sorry, I just hate these mocks that have us taking Hasselbeck

and the ones that have us trading frank gore, not gonna happen

What's with people trading away Gore after he gets injured?

The guy is still one of the better backs in the game.

Originally posted by teeohh:
i'm sorry, I just hate these mocks that have us taking Hasselbeck

Can you explain why you hate it instead of just saying you hate it.

Personally, i think either Hesselbeck or Kyle Orton would be good Stop Gap QB's. Obviously Devlin would need time to develop, so if you have a better option for what vetran Harbaugh should use I would love to hear.

Originally posted by genus49:
What's with people trading away Gore after he gets injured?

The guy is still one of the better backs in the game.

He is, but he has carried one of the biggest workloads of any RB in the NFL during his tenure with the 9ers. This makes him older than his actual age as his milage and injury make him more comparable to a 29 or 30 year old.
I wanted us to get a real successor to Gore this past year (Dixon is not a full time back), but we have to find a replacment for him soon. The point is that his value is still somewhat comparable to what he provides. We should trade him now while we can still get something for him.

Originally posted by GoldenGateFan:

Originally posted by teeohh:
i'm sorry, I just hate these mocks that have us taking Hasselbeck

Can you explain why you hate it instead of just saying you hate it.

Personally, i think either Hesselbeck or Kyle Orton would be good Stop Gap QB's. Obviously Devlin would need time to develop, so if you have a better option for what vetran Harbaugh should use I would love to hear.

Because he's on the decline, and I just think he's done. He had his best game of the year this past Sunday, does that mean he should be a starter next year? I say no

I agree that Orton would be a good stop gap qb, but I have doubts whether Denver is going to trade him and throw Tebow out there next season after Elway's comments.

I'm personally on the trade for Orton, sign Dennis Dixon, draft Gabbert or Newton bandwagons. Hasselbeck to me is just like throwing Trent Dilfer out there and expecting us to win the division. Doesn't inspire confidence/optimism.

I'd take Ahmad Black over Sands but not bad. I agree that you need to get Hasselbeck out of that mock. I doubt we would trade go to a divisional opponent even if McClueless is there.

This is a very well thought of mock draft dude.

I can sign off on this. Would love to have Nate back for less money and a FS change....

Trading Gore, I hate to say, is a wise move, and your logic is very spot on. He is one more injury away from us not getting anything in return for him. That Williams kid from VT is said to go in the 1st in some boards I have seen....so this can be a solid move if he is there, if not, I like Daniel Thomas out of Kansas St.

Originally posted by teeohh:

Originally posted by GoldenGateFan:

Originally posted by teeohh:
i'm sorry, I just hate these mocks that have us taking Hasselbeck

Can you explain why you hate it instead of just saying you hate it.

Personally, i think either Hesselbeck or Kyle Orton would be good Stop Gap QB's. Obviously Devlin would need time to develop, so if you have a better option for what vetran Harbaugh should use I would love to hear.

Because he's on the decline, and I just think he's done. He had his best game of the year this past Sunday, does that mean he should be a starter next year? I say no

I agree that Orton would be a good stop gap qb, but I have doubts whether Denver is going to trade him and throw Tebow out there next season after Elway's comments.

I'm personally on the trade for Orton, sign Dennis Dixon, draft Gabbert or Newton bandwagons. Hasselbeck to me is just like throwing Trent Dilfer out there and expecting us to win the division. Doesn't inspire confidence/optimism.

Sorry for essentially double posting but damn someone else on the Sign Dennis Bandwagon!?" Woo! I don't have a problem with going after Dixon or Johnson because Harbaugh's reputation leads me to believe he could either make them into the best qb their abilities allow or he'd convert them to WR and we need help there no matter what anyone else thinks.

McNabb, Orton, Palmer, Kolb would be the order I would pursue QBs if we couldn't get Dixon or Johnson.

I have said it since the season ended that we will have 4 new QBs this spring and it could very well be these two scenarios:
1. FA/Trade:Orton/McNabb
2. FA/Trade: Dixon/Johnson
3. Rookie draft pick: Devlin/Dalton/Stanzi
4. UDFA
or
1. FA/Trade
2. Rookie pick
3. Rookie pick
4. UDFA

Based on our grievous need at the position it isn't so far fetched to see us bringing in 1 vet and going after 3 young guys. It would truly set us up for future success if Harbaugh could teach an entire depth chart's worth of QBs with a QB of his blessing.

EDIT: Another QB I would love to see the 9ers trade for is Tony Pike. Carolina really confused me by drafting two developmental QBs last year and I bet we could pry Tony Pike out of their hands if we gave them a decent deal(i.e. a 7th rounder from next year). His height/weight and decent mobility and ability to play through pain really impressed me in college.

The panthers chose to sign a qb off the street, not even in the league, over playing tony pike. That doesn't impress me, at all. He just had 1 good year in brian kelly's gimmicky spread. When you lose snaps to brian st pierre, you probably can't play in the nfl.

Originally posted by teeohh:

Originally posted by GoldenGateFan:

Originally posted by teeohh:
i'm sorry, I just hate these mocks that have us taking Hasselbeck

Can you explain why you hate it instead of just saying you hate it.

Personally, i think either Hesselbeck or Kyle Orton would be good Stop Gap QB's. Obviously Devlin would need time to develop, so if you have a better option for what vetran Harbaugh should use I would love to hear.

Because he's on the decline, and I just think he's done. He had his best game of the year this past Sunday, does that mean he should be a starter next year? I say no

I agree that Orton would be a good stop gap qb, but I have doubts whether Denver is going to trade him and throw Tebow out there next season after Elway's comments.

I'm personally on the trade for Orton, sign Dennis Dixon, draft Gabbert or Newton bandwagons. Hasselbeck to me is just like throwing Trent Dilfer out there and expecting us to win the division. Doesn't inspire confidence/optimism.

I agree that Orton is a much better fit, I am just not sure we could land him. However I do disagree with you on the "draft Gabbert or Newton". I'm meh on Newton, but I seriosly don't understand why everyone is so high on Gabbert. He is not accurate, overweight, and just seems like he lacks.... the drive to win. I think Pat Devlin is the right QB to fit in Harbaugh's system. He is intelligent, mobile, and accurate, and it would only cost us a 2nd rounder.

Really interesting and good post. Very hard to read w/out Bold Headings.

washington doesnt have a 3rd or 4th so giving up a second probably wouldnt happen