First off, I know we need a qb with Alex leaving in FA but this years class of qb's is a huge question mark in my opinion. Nobody is a clear cut #1 guy and we can't afford to waste another 1st round pick on a qb.
We need to pick up a couple of FA guys that Jim can coach up and play within the WCO system.
This draft has some very good db's and DE/OLB that we can get in the 1st and 2nd rounds. These are huge needs for us and can help push our D into the top 5-10 in the NFL which can keep us in all of our games.
Let Jim pick a guy in the 3rd and let him sit and learn for a year and coach him up. I don't want a project guy drafted in the 1st and then thrown out there before he's ready.
Better yet, wait till next year when supposedly there are more solid qb's coming out. Spend 2 1st rounders on a targeted guy if need be. By then our team will be pretty set with talent that knows the systems and can help out a rookie qb.
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Lets not reach for a qb in this draft
Jan 13, 2011 at 9:30 AM
- rk1642
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Jan 13, 2011 at 9:32 AM
- OregonDuckNiner
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All i know is that if we pick a QB in the first, im gonna trust Harbaugh will turn him into a star. Either way i'm happy
Jan 13, 2011 at 9:54 AM
- m_brockalexander
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The only thing that is MORE special about next year's QB class in Andrew Luck. Waiting a whole year to fix our biggest position of need is ludicrous.
Harbaugh was hired specifically to address this issue. As fans, we have to trust that he and Baalke will do whatever it takes to get their QB of the present and the future. They have three options available to them with the draft being the most obvious because of the uncertainty about the CBA. If they think that their guy is available at #7, so be it.
Harbaugh was hired specifically to address this issue. As fans, we have to trust that he and Baalke will do whatever it takes to get their QB of the present and the future. They have three options available to them with the draft being the most obvious because of the uncertainty about the CBA. If they think that their guy is available at #7, so be it.
Jan 13, 2011 at 9:57 AM
- TalkinBoutWILLIS
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unless we trade down i think drafting any qb at pick number 7 is a reach regardless of assessments or not
Jan 13, 2011 at 10:11 AM
- Butter
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Originally posted by m_brockalexander:
The only thing that is MORE special about next year's QB class in Andrew Luck. Waiting a whole year to fix our biggest position of need is ludicrous.
Harbaugh was hired specifically to address this issue. As fans, we have to trust that he and Baalke will do whatever it takes to get their QB of the present and the future. They have three options available to them with the draft being the most obvious because of the uncertainty about the CBA. If they think that their guy is available at #7, so be it.
Aside from Luck, how do next years QB's project?
Jan 13, 2011 at 10:18 AM
- statman
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Originally posted by Butter:Originally posted by m_brockalexander:
The only thing that is MORE special about next year's QB class in Andrew Luck. Waiting a whole year to fix our biggest position of need is ludicrous.
Harbaugh was hired specifically to address this issue. As fans, we have to trust that he and Baalke will do whatever it takes to get their QB of the present and the future. They have three options available to them with the draft being the most obvious because of the uncertainty about the CBA. If they think that their guy is available at #7, so be it.
Aside from Luck, how do next years QB's project?
Matt Barkley and Landry Jones are top prospects. I'd say that next year's group is better than this year's.
But next year always looks better. Last year was supposed to be a great QB class, then this one was. But once the season is over and you've put those guys under the microscope, they're not as good as you originally thought.
Jan 13, 2011 at 11:26 AM
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Let's not reach for anybody this draft. Baalke seemed to apease Mr.Sing via using our 2 first rounders on the O-Line. I really wonder if he,[Baalke] left to his own vision, would have givin up that 4th rounder to move up from 13th to 10th,in order to get OT Davis...? It should be interesting to see how the new staff & FO do their draft.
[ Edited by highway49 on Jan 13, 2011 at 11:27 AM ]
Jan 13, 2011 at 5:52 PM
- LionHeartofGold
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Agreed. I get so annoyed when fans mention the niners should or will pick a QB in the first round. All of the QBs suggested to be our 1st pick are reaches. Historically, this organization has gone with the BEST PLAYER AVAILABLE, which clearly belongs to either a CB like Amukamara or a DE. If Peterson falls to us, it will be God sent, but I doubt it will happen. You guys gotta get off the nuts of Mallet, Locker, Newton, and Gabbert? C'mon now...Gabbert??? We're talkn bout Gabbert? I mean...Gabbert?? The team needs a veteran QB. We must win now while the competition in the NFC West is still pathetic. Any QB we take in the draft will be either in the 2nd or third, most likely third since we will probably use our 2nd on a trade. GABBERT??!!!!
Jan 13, 2011 at 6:08 PM
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Seems like every year we say, "next years QB class will be better" but every year when the time comes around the draft class does not live up to expectations. If we do pick a QB in the first round, I won't be overly upset because I believe I trust Harbaugh will coach him up to be a franchise player.
Filing in stop gaps to be competitive next year means nothing to me. I dont want to be a one-two year wonder and fall off to mediocrity like the cardinals have these last few seasons. We NEED to address the most important position for the future this year.
Filing in stop gaps to be competitive next year means nothing to me. I dont want to be a one-two year wonder and fall off to mediocrity like the cardinals have these last few seasons. We NEED to address the most important position for the future this year.
Jan 13, 2011 at 6:30 PM
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Originally posted by LionHeartofGold:
Agreed. I get so annoyed when fans mention the niners should or will pick a QB in the first round. All of the QBs suggested to be our 1st pick are reaches. Historically, this organization has gone with the BEST PLAYER AVAILABLE, which clearly belongs to either a CB like Amukamara or a DE. If Peterson falls to us, it will be God sent, but I doubt it will happen. You guys gotta get off the nuts of Mallet, Locker, Newton, and Gabbert? C'mon now...Gabbert??? We're talkn bout Gabbert? I mean...Gabbert?? The team needs a veteran QB. We must win now while the competition in the NFC West is still pathetic. Any QB we take in the draft will be either in the 2nd or third, most likely third since we will probably use our 2nd on a trade. GABBERT??!!!!
Exactly.
Jan 13, 2011 at 7:05 PM
- Gore_21
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You never know about drafting next year because most came into this year thinking it might be the best QB class since 04 and 83. Most of the guys dropped off and regressed. Still, I would take Luck, Barkley and Jones over anybody in this draft. I might even take Garcia, Murray, Foles, Brantley and Moore as well.
Jan 13, 2011 at 11:00 PM
- matt49er
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Originally posted by BigBug415:Originally posted by LionHeartofGold:
Agreed. I get so annoyed when fans mention the niners should or will pick a QB in the first round. All of the QBs suggested to be our 1st pick are reaches. Historically, this organization has gone with the BEST PLAYER AVAILABLE, which clearly belongs to either a CB like Amukamara or a DE. If Peterson falls to us, it will be God sent, but I doubt it will happen. You guys gotta get off the nuts of Mallet, Locker, Newton, and Gabbert? C'mon now...Gabbert??? We're talkn bout Gabbert? I mean...Gabbert?? The team needs a veteran QB. We must win now while the competition in the NFC West is still pathetic. Any QB we take in the draft will be either in the 2nd or third, most likely third since we will probably use our 2nd on a trade. GABBERT??!!!!
Exactly.
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Jan 14, 2011 at 4:04 AM
- 49erFaithful6
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Originally posted by rk1642:
First off, I know we need a qb with Alex leaving in FA but this years class of qb's is a huge question mark in my opinion. Nobody is a clear cut #1 guy and we can't afford to waste another 1st round pick on a qb.
We need to pick up a couple of FA guys that Jim can coach up and play within the WCO system.
This draft has some very good db's and DE/OLB that we can get in the 1st and 2nd rounds. These are huge needs for us and can help push our D into the top 5-10 in the NFL which can keep us in all of our games.
Let Jim pick a guy in the 3rd and let him sit and learn for a year and coach him up. I don't want a project guy drafted in the 1st and then thrown out there before he's ready.
Better yet, wait till next year when supposedly there are more solid qb's coming out. Spend 2 1st rounders on a targeted guy if need be. By then our team will be pretty set with talent that knows the systems and can help out a rookie qb.
It's a QB driven league. You can scheme on defense. Look at last year's winner the Saints. They would not have won it all without Brees. The defense was nothing special but they had a great defensive coordinator in Gregg Williams who had an aggressive blitz heavy scheme that worked well with their so-so personnel. It's time we take the QB position seriously. There are 7 rounds in the draft, it's not like the defense will be neglected totally if we take a first round QB.
Jan 14, 2011 at 4:11 AM
- SanDiego49er
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I don't see how next years QB's are any better than this year other than Luck. And he too can fall. He can get injured. He doesn't have Harbaugh anymore. There might be slight changes in the system. Some personnel will be different. It will be hard even for Luck to duplicate that year for a variety of reasons. Look at Jake Locker. He was all world Super Man last year. #1 pick for sure. He fell. It can happen to Luck too.
I see no definitive reason 2012 is a better QB year than now. We have a huge QB need. We can't keep waiting forever. We can do this year after year. And keep saying next year. But at some point we need one and we need to coach him up. I think Harbaugh can do that. As long as the player is Harbaugh approved and he coaches the guy up I will be fine with it.
I see no definitive reason 2012 is a better QB year than now. We have a huge QB need. We can't keep waiting forever. We can do this year after year. And keep saying next year. But at some point we need one and we need to coach him up. I think Harbaugh can do that. As long as the player is Harbaugh approved and he coaches the guy up I will be fine with it.
Jan 14, 2011 at 5:04 AM
- miked1978
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We have to get a QB this year. Sure we don't have to reach for one but if we do then you will know that Harbaugh wasn't interested in any QB in the later rounds. I will trust Harbaugh.
This year's QB crop isn't that bad IMO. I don't see next years as any different other than Luck who will probably go #1 overall and I hope the 49ers don't have that pick.
This year's QB crop isn't that bad IMO. I don't see next years as any different other than Luck who will probably go #1 overall and I hope the 49ers don't have that pick.