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TCU's QB Andy Dalton

Anyone will be better than Alex Smith.
Originally posted by PTulini:
Andy Dalton performs well at TCU's pro day

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Updated Mar 11, 2011 3:50 PM ET
Former TCU quarterback Andy Dalton shined during the school’s pro day on Friday.

Dalton, according to one personnel source on hand, went 49-for-52, and two of the incompletions were drops. Pro day performances shouldn’t be overvalued because they are a small part of the process, but he did quite well.


On one throw, he rolled out right and completed a 60-yard pass on the run, which is important when evaluating at his arm strength. The one legitimate knock on Dalton is his perceived lack of ideal arm strength. However, there are certain times when he has shown better than expected power on his throws.

During last month’s NFL Scouting Combine, Dalton connected on a few deeper sideline throws of more than 40 yards.

During this year’s Rose Bowl game against the University of Wisconsin, Dalton made several solid power throws, which opened some eyes of several personnel evaluators.

A source confirmed Dalton has upcoming private workouts scheduled with the Chicago Bears (March 17), Kansas City Chiefs, Cleveland Browns (next week) and New England Patriots.

He’s also expected to visit the Cincinnati Bengals, Minnesota Vikings and Tennessee Titans among the teams that want to bring him in for a closer look.

Mike Mayock said a month or so ago, that we'd be suprised about his arm strength. He said he saw him throw at the Manning Camp and was surprised by Dalton's arm.
Originally posted by 9erguy:
Originally posted by TX9R:
I've been on Dalton for a while. He and Ponder are interchangable to me and the 2 QBs I'd want in this draft. All he did was win and played best on the biggest stage. Both are Texas boys, so it's all good either way.

Where are you in Texas..Houston guy here. I'm with you on these guys. Although I would put Ponder slightly ahead of Dalton..Wouldnt mind ending up with either.

I concur. Another couple of REALLY good prospects. Among others. It's a good year for QBs IMO. I'm counting on the Niner's getting one of them.

Don't understand the knock on Dalton's arm BTW.
Originally posted by Rsrkshn:
Originally posted by 9erguy:
Originally posted by TX9R:
I've been on Dalton for a while. He and Ponder are interchangable to me and the 2 QBs I'd want in this draft. All he did was win and played best on the biggest stage. Both are Texas boys, so it's all good either way.

Where are you in Texas..Houston guy here. I'm with you on these guys. Although I would put Ponder slightly ahead of Dalton..Wouldnt mind ending up with either.

I concur. Another couple of REALLY good prospects. Among others. It's a good year for QBs IMO. I'm counting on the Niner's getting one of them.

Don't understand the knock on Dalton's arm BTW.

Ponder still scares me. I suspect that his medical report will scare teams off. He's been claiming that his arm is fully healed, but I'm not buying it. He said it was fine in his bowl game, but it clearly was bothering him. He's a 1st-2nd round talent, with major injury concerns. Personally, I wouldn't draft him until the 3rd. I realize he'll probably get scooped up in the 2nd though.

Dalton is the safer pick. There's no red flags with him and he's very consistant. Ponder is streaky and FSU fans have had a love/hate relationship with him. I'd be very pleased with us grabbing Dalton with our second pick. IMO, he's the most complete QB coming out this year.
Originally posted by bigmike55:
Anyone will be better than Alex Smith.

you must have been one of the guys shouting "We want Carr", huh?

-9fA
  • RKab
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There's a log jam of mid-round QBs and Dalton isn't a perfect fit for a lot of teams. I'd think he'd be targeted by a WCO team. I like him but from what I read of him (outside the 49er fan circle) I don't know that the team would need to spend a 2nd rounder on him. There's a lot of history of QBs dropping in recent years and given the potential for limited / no FA teams need to plug actual holes in the 2nd and 3rd rounds this year. There's no need to draft a developmental QB when you have gaping holes elsewhere. I like him - I'm hoping he falls and the 49ers get a great value in him later in the draft.
Originally posted by RKab:
There's a log jam of mid-round QBs and Dalton isn't a perfect fit for a lot of teams. I'd think he'd be targeted by a WCO team. I like him but from what I read of him (outside the 49er fan circle) I don't know that the team would need to spend a 2nd rounder on him. There's a lot of history of QBs dropping in recent years and given the potential for limited / no FA teams need to plug actual holes in the 2nd and 3rd rounds this year. There's no need to draft a developmental QB when you have gaping holes elsewhere. I like him - I'm hoping he falls and the 49ers get a great value in him later in the draft.

I agree. There are quite a few 2nd-3rd round QB's in this years draft. We have too many hole's to use a 2nd rounder on a QB that may NEVER be a starter. We should draft NT, OLB, S, or CB with BOTH our first and second rounders, then go to QB in the third. One of the QB's that everyone is saying will go in the second round will drop and be available to us in the third.
Then if we ever have a free agency we need to pick up a veteran QB as a stop gap until we can develop a QB. Does anyone know if the Broncos are looking to shop Orton? I know Tebow started at the end of last season and I don't think Orton would cost us a first rounder like Kolb would. He would be a decent starter for us for a year or two while we develop a QB that we draft in this or next years draft. Although it's highly unlikely I'm still holding out hope that we can get Luck in next years draft.

[ Edited by Superbowl09 on Mar 12, 2011 at 08:27:27 ]
Originally posted by Superbowl09:
Originally posted by RKab:
There's a log jam of mid-round QBs and Dalton isn't a perfect fit for a lot of teams. I'd think he'd be targeted by a WCO team. I like him but from what I read of him (outside the 49er fan circle) I don't know that the team would need to spend a 2nd rounder on him. There's a lot of history of QBs dropping in recent years and given the potential for limited / no FA teams need to plug actual holes in the 2nd and 3rd rounds this year. There's no need to draft a developmental QB when you have gaping holes elsewhere. I like him - I'm hoping he falls and the 49ers get a great value in him later in the draft.

I agree. There are quite a few 2nd-3rd round QB's in this years draft. We have too many hole's to use a 2nd rounder on a QB that may NEVER be a starter. We should draft NT, OLB, S, or CB with BOTH our first and second rounders, then go to QB in the third. One of the QB's that everyone is saying will go in the second round will drop and be available to us in the third.
Then if we ever have a free agency we need to pick up a veteran QB as a stop gap until we can develop a QB. Does anyone know if the Broncos are looking to shop Orton? I know Tebow started at the end of last season and I don't think Orton would cost us a first rounder like Kolb would. He would be a decent starter for us for a year or two while we develop a QB that we draft in this or next years draft.

Orton is going to be the Broncos starter.

-9fA

[ Edited by 9erfanAUS on Mar 12, 2011 at 08:27:30 ]
Originally posted by 9erfanAUS:
Originally posted by bigmike55:
Anyone will be better than Alex Smith.

you must have been one of the guys shouting "We want Carr", huh?

-9fA

At that time, yes I was, along with almost all of 49er nation. I say Carr and Alex Smith are both garbage first round busts.
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Originally posted by 9erfanAUS:
Originally posted by Superbowl09:
Originally posted by RKab:
There's a log jam of mid-round QBs and Dalton isn't a perfect fit for a lot of teams. I'd think he'd be targeted by a WCO team. I like him but from what I read of him (outside the 49er fan circle) I don't know that the team would need to spend a 2nd rounder on him. There's a lot of history of QBs dropping in recent years and given the potential for limited / no FA teams need to plug actual holes in the 2nd and 3rd rounds this year. There's no need to draft a developmental QB when you have gaping holes elsewhere. I like him - I'm hoping he falls and the 49ers get a great value in him later in the draft.

I agree. There are quite a few 2nd-3rd round QB's in this years draft. We have too many hole's to use a 2nd rounder on a QB that may NEVER be a starter. We should draft NT, OLB, S, or CB with BOTH our first and second rounders, then go to QB in the third. One of the QB's that everyone is saying will go in the second round will drop and be available to us in the third.
Then if we ever have a free agency we need to pick up a veteran QB as a stop gap until we can develop a QB. Does anyone know if the Broncos are looking to shop Orton? I know Tebow started at the end of last season and I don't think Orton would cost us a first rounder like Kolb would. He would be a decent starter for us for a year or two while we develop a QB that we draft in this or next years draft.

Orton is going to be the Broncos starter.

-9fA

Really? Since when?
Originally posted by bigmike55:
Originally posted by 9erfanAUS:
Originally posted by bigmike55:
Anyone will be better than Alex Smith.

you must have been one of the guys shouting "We want Carr", huh?

-9fA

At that time, yes I was, along with almost all of 49er nation. I say Carr and Alex Smith are both garbage first round busts.

you make me sick
Originally posted by Jcool:
Originally posted by 9erfanAUS:
Originally posted by Superbowl09:
Originally posted by RKab:
There's a log jam of mid-round QBs and Dalton isn't a perfect fit for a lot of teams. I'd think he'd be targeted by a WCO team. I like him but from what I read of him (outside the 49er fan circle) I don't know that the team would need to spend a 2nd rounder on him. There's a lot of history of QBs dropping in recent years and given the potential for limited / no FA teams need to plug actual holes in the 2nd and 3rd rounds this year. There's no need to draft a developmental QB when you have gaping holes elsewhere. I like him - I'm hoping he falls and the 49ers get a great value in him later in the draft.

I agree. There are quite a few 2nd-3rd round QB's in this years draft. We have too many hole's to use a 2nd rounder on a QB that may NEVER be a starter. We should draft NT, OLB, S, or CB with BOTH our first and second rounders, then go to QB in the third. One of the QB's that everyone is saying will go in the second round will drop and be available to us in the third.
Then if we ever have a free agency we need to pick up a veteran QB as a stop gap until we can develop a QB. Does anyone know if the Broncos are looking to shop Orton? I know Tebow started at the end of last season and I don't think Orton would cost us a first rounder like Kolb would. He would be a decent starter for us for a year or two while we develop a QB that we draft in this or next years draft.

Orton is going to be the Broncos starter.

-9fA

Really? Since when?

A few weeks ago:

Originally posted by NYtimes:
New coach John Fox said Thursday that Orton is his starting quarterback, not the popular but unpolished Tebow.

linkage

-9fA
As far as as the non 1st round QB's go, Dalton and Stanzi would be nice 3rd round picks imo.
Originally posted by 9erfanAUS:
Originally posted by Jcool:
Originally posted by 9erfanAUS:
Originally posted by Superbowl09:
Originally posted by RKab:
There's a log jam of mid-round QBs and Dalton isn't a perfect fit for a lot of teams. I'd think he'd be targeted by a WCO team. I like him but from what I read of him (outside the 49er fan circle) I don't know that the team would need to spend a 2nd rounder on him. There's a lot of history of QBs dropping in recent years and given the potential for limited / no FA teams need to plug actual holes in the 2nd and 3rd rounds this year. There's no need to draft a developmental QB when you have gaping holes elsewhere. I like him - I'm hoping he falls and the 49ers get a great value in him later in the draft.

I agree. There are quite a few 2nd-3rd round QB's in this years draft. We have too many hole's to use a 2nd rounder on a QB that may NEVER be a starter. We should draft NT, OLB, S, or CB with BOTH our first and second rounders, then go to QB in the third. One of the QB's that everyone is saying will go in the second round will drop and be available to us in the third.
Then if we ever have a free agency we need to pick up a veteran QB as a stop gap until we can develop a QB. Does anyone know if the Broncos are looking to shop Orton? I know Tebow started at the end of last season and I don't think Orton would cost us a first rounder like Kolb would. He would be a decent starter for us for a year or two while we develop a QB that we draft in this or next years draft.

Orton is going to be the Broncos starter.

-9fA

Really? Since when?

A few weeks ago:

Originally posted by NYtimes:
New coach John Fox said Thursday that Orton is his starting quarterback, not the popular but unpolished Tebow.

linkage

-9fA

As of now, but things can definitely change between now and the start of the season. There's no guarantee Orton will be a Bronco.
Originally posted by SWAGG-ER:
Originally posted by bigmike55:
Originally posted by 9erfanAUS:
Originally posted by bigmike55:
Anyone will be better than Alex Smith.

you must have been one of the guys shouting "We want Carr", huh?

-9fA

At that time, yes I was, along with almost all of 49er nation. I say Carr and Alex Smith are both garbage first round busts.

you make me sick

Good, in that case, all of candlestick park made you sick when the entire stadium was booing Alex Smith. My buddy was at that game and he left before the booing started. He said he could hear the boos from a half mile away after he left the parking lot. And he deserved each and every one of them.