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Re-sign Alex, Draft a QB in the 1st or 2nd Rd (regardless of HC)

  • dj43
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Originally posted by nickbradley:
Originally posted by JiksJuicy:
THe question is, is why would Alex want to re-sign here in the first place? With all our douche bag fans. WHy not go somewhere where the fans are not known as the Whiners, and feel welcome? Why not go to a team with a legitiment coaching staff?

I don't think Alex would care to come back.

Because we didn't cut him when the whole league labeled him as a bust.

I saw some Minneapolis Star article the other day that said the Vikes could make a move for Alex Smith in 2011...
Along with about 5 or 6 other teams where he would be a definite improvement over their current starter.

I had to laugh at a report that Carson Palmer might be coming to SF next year, perhaps in a trade.

I can see why Cincy would want Alex. Palmer has a lower rating than Alex and he has two of the best receivers in the league. What I don't understand about that is, why would the 49ers give up Alex for Palmer unless Alex made it clear he would not come back here next year under any conditions? Palmer is warmed over soup at this point.

(Yes, I know Alex would have to sign and agree to the trade - a very unlikely prospects since I can't see a kid from the beaches of San Diego agreeing to play in Cincy.)
Originally posted by Norcal9erfan:
Originally posted by nickbradley:
Originally posted by Norcal9erfan:
Originally posted by jreff22:
http://www.49erswebzone.com/forum/thread.php?num=149903

http://www.49erswebzone.com/forum/thread.php?num=149674

http://www.49erswebzone.com/forum/thread.php?num=149682

http://www.49erswebzone.com/forum/thread.php?num=149818

http://www.49erswebzone.com/forum/thread.php?num=149683

http://www.49erswebzone.com/forum/thread.php?num=149597

http://www.49erswebzone.com/forum/thread.php?num=149572

Can mods PLZ remove these stupid lock signs? This AS thread is different than others. So many locks should be considered spam and a violation of policy.

Mods, please tell Norcal9erfan to stop trying to lock my 164th thread about my lord and savior Alex Smith. I can start a new thread and disregard all of the other millions of threads already open on the topic because I'm special.




Its the 1,000,000 lock gifs that are annoying...
  • fly15
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Originally posted by MarkD:
Damn you Alex haters are so stupid. You keep saying he has had six years to prove himself. No he has played in 51 games that equates to a little over 3 seasons, and that includes 9 games his rookie seson. Statisticly he is having a better year this year than anyother year he has had since being in SF. Yes even 2006 when everone was so high on him when Norv was here. Take away his rookie season and he is a pretty good QB which alot of potential. The problem is not with him but with the crappy coaching and coaches he's had. Oh and lets not forget about all of the idiot fans who dont know jacksh#t and think that he is the only player on the team and everytime they lose its all on him. It has nothing to do with game planning, play calling,defense, etc etc. We need to sign him and draft another QB to groom. I doubt he will sign here anyway because of how you tools have bashed and boo'd him. So to all you idiot fans and coaches, have fun ruining our next QB.

he's a bust, period, and hopefully he'll sign somewhere else
Originally posted by susweel:
Originally posted by TheGoldDiggerrrr:
Originally posted by susweel:
1 good game and people want to re-sign him. Only in NT


He's had several good games since Mike Johnson took over. Strange to think it might have been poor play calling. we win against the panthers if alex stays upright. Are oline is the problem for the bad qb play. Rachael can't block. Davis struggles because he's a rookie, and trying to do the job of 2 men. If someone is going to get replaced, it's rachael first....

Several ???


really ??

Well he's at 80.6, Troy's at 80.3. And david carr is at 23.6 haha. Resign alex draft his replacement, and resign Troy. Give david his papers. Look at the stats, they don't lie under mike johnson vs under jimmy raye, and alex looks like night and day...
I'm impressed that he lasted as long as he did. Nearly 400 career sacks. That's back when defenses could hit ya...even if you let the ball go.
Hasselbeck: "You played really well"
Patrick Willis @ 1:42 : "Hey let Alex get us today, let Alex get us today"

This bothers you severely doesn't it? Not me

http://www.49ers.com/media-gallery/videos/Locker-Room-Postgame-vs-Seattle/117ceb90-24f2-4632-85cb-9bc0425be22c
[ Edited by JiksJuicy on Dec 13, 2010 at 4:06 PM ]
Originally posted by nickbradley:
Originally posted by Norcal9erfan:
Originally posted by nickbradley:
Originally posted by Norcal9erfan:
Originally posted by jreff22:
http://www.49erswebzone.com/forum/thread.php?num=149903

http://www.49erswebzone.com/forum/thread.php?num=149674

http://www.49erswebzone.com/forum/thread.php?num=149682

http://www.49erswebzone.com/forum/thread.php?num=149818

http://www.49erswebzone.com/forum/thread.php?num=149683

http://www.49erswebzone.com/forum/thread.php?num=149597

http://www.49erswebzone.com/forum/thread.php?num=149572

Can mods PLZ remove these stupid lock signs? This AS thread is different than others. So many locks should be considered spam and a violation of policy.

Mods, please tell Norcal9erfan to stop trying to lock my 164th thread about my lord and savior Alex Smith. I can start a new thread and disregard all of the other millions of threads already open on the topic because I'm special.




Its the 1,000,000 lock gifs that are annoying...

And its the 1,000,000 Alex Smith threads that are annoying to me...
Originally posted by TheGoldDiggerrrr:
Originally posted by susweel:
Originally posted by TheGoldDiggerrrr:
Originally posted by susweel:
1 good game and people want to re-sign him. Only in NT


He's had several good games since Mike Johnson took over. Strange to think it might have been poor play calling. we win against the panthers if alex stays upright. Are oline is the problem for the bad qb play. Rachael can't block. Davis struggles because he's a rookie, and trying to do the job of 2 men. If someone is going to get replaced, it's rachael first....

Several ???


really ??

Well he's at 80.6, Troy's at 80.3. And david carr is at 23.6 haha. Resign alex draft his replacement, and resign Troy. Give david his papers. Look at the stats, they don't lie under mike johnson vs under jimmy raye, and alex looks like night and day...

For comparison's sake, Alex's passer rating is much higher than 80.6 since Johnson took over.
Originally posted by Gavintech:
Originally posted by TheGoldDiggerrrr:
Originally posted by susweel:
Originally posted by TheGoldDiggerrrr:
Originally posted by susweel:
1 good game and people want to re-sign him. Only in NT


He's had several good games since Mike Johnson took over. Strange to think it might have been poor play calling. we win against the panthers if alex stays upright. Are oline is the problem for the bad qb play. Rachael can't block. Davis struggles because he's a rookie, and trying to do the job of 2 men. If someone is going to get replaced, it's rachael first....

Several ???


really ??

Well he's at 80.6, Troy's at 80.3. And david carr is at 23.6 haha. Resign alex draft his replacement, and resign Troy. Give david his papers. Look at the stats, they don't lie under mike johnson vs under jimmy raye, and alex looks like night and day...

For comparison's sake, Alex's passer rating is much higher than 80.6 since Johnson took over.

He's thrown 10 TDs to 4 INTs since then as well...
Originally posted by nickbradley:
Originally posted by JiksJuicy:
THe question is, is why would Alex want to re-sign here in the first place? With all our douche bag fans. WHy not go somewhere where the fans are not known as the Whiners, and feel welcome? Why not go to a team with a legitiment coaching staff?

I don't think Alex would care to come back.

Because we didn't cut him when the whole league labeled him as a bust.

I saw some Minneapolis Star article the other day that said the Vikes could make a move for Alex Smith in 2011...

Someone will make a run at Smith. The "bust" label reflects the understandable frustration of Niner fans, but he's not really a bust. Smith is a middle of the road, inconsistent QB similar to those on about 15-20 other teams. His "upside" games showcase an ability to perform at an elite level. Some team will definitely think they can coax more consistency out of Smith with better support and coaching that the Niners don't provide. I personally think we should re-sign him and draft a potential replacement. I think we should get rid of Singletary and bring in Urban Meyer. Let Smith either thrive under the Meyer spread system as he did in college, or at least be a serviceable place holder while we groom a replacement.
Originally posted by Gavintech:
Originally posted by Gavintech:
Originally posted by TheGoldDiggerrrr:
Originally posted by susweel:
Originally posted by TheGoldDiggerrrr:
Originally posted by susweel:
1 good game and people want to re-sign him. Only in NT


He's had several good games since Mike Johnson took over. Strange to think it might have been poor play calling. we win against the panthers if alex stays upright. Are oline is the problem for the bad qb play. Rachael can't block. Davis struggles because he's a rookie, and trying to do the job of 2 men. If someone is going to get replaced, it's rachael first....

Several ???


really ??

Well he's at 80.6, Troy's at 80.3. And david carr is at 23.6 haha. Resign alex draft his replacement, and resign Troy. Give david his papers. Look at the stats, they don't lie under mike johnson vs under jimmy raye, and alex looks like night and day...

For comparison's sake, Alex's passer rating is much higher than 80.6 since Johnson took over.

He's thrown 10 TDs to 4 INTs since then as well...

Clearly it was coaching and play calling and the mix of poor play by our oline.
Seems the play calling is improved, the oline is coming along as well... When the first 2 work right, then alex can do his job. Besides we will save money with alex and unless we land vick there's no qb on the market, besides luck that would be considered a upgrade.And im not giving the cards a chance to improve their team.
Originally posted by Gavintech:
Originally posted by Gavintech:
Originally posted by TheGoldDiggerrrr:
Originally posted by susweel:
Originally posted by TheGoldDiggerrrr:
Originally posted by susweel:
1 good game and people want to re-sign him. Only in NT


He's had several good games since Mike Johnson took over. Strange to think it might have been poor play calling. we win against the panthers if alex stays upright. Are oline is the problem for the bad qb play. Rachael can't block. Davis struggles because he's a rookie, and trying to do the job of 2 men. If someone is going to get replaced, it's rachael first....

Several ???


really ??

Well he's at 80.6, Troy's at 80.3. And david carr is at 23.6 haha. Resign alex draft his replacement, and resign Troy. Give david his papers. Look at the stats, they don't lie under mike johnson vs under jimmy raye, and alex looks like night and day...

For comparison's sake, Alex's passer rating is much higher than 80.6 since Johnson took over.

He's thrown 10 TDs to 4 INTs since then as well...

10TDs, 4INTs, 1077 yards, and a 92 NFL passer rating through (less than) 5 full games since Mike Johnson took over.
Originally posted by Gavintech:
Originally posted by Gavintech:
Originally posted by Gavintech:
Originally posted by TheGoldDiggerrrr:
Originally posted by susweel:
Originally posted by TheGoldDiggerrrr:
Originally posted by susweel:
1 good game and people want to re-sign him. Only in NT


He's had several good games since Mike Johnson took over. Strange to think it might have been poor play calling. we win against the panthers if alex stays upright. Are oline is the problem for the bad qb play. Rachael can't block. Davis struggles because he's a rookie, and trying to do the job of 2 men. If someone is going to get replaced, it's rachael first....

Several ???


really ??

Well he's at 80.6, Troy's at 80.3. And david carr is at 23.6 haha. Resign alex draft his replacement, and resign Troy. Give david his papers. Look at the stats, they don't lie under mike johnson vs under jimmy raye, and alex looks like night and day...

For comparison's sake, Alex's passer rating is much higher than 80.6 since Johnson took over.

He's thrown 10 TDs to 4 INTs since then as well...

10TDs, 4INTs, 1077 yards, and a 92 NFL passer rating through (less than) 5 full games since Mike Johnson took over.
looks like a quality backup.
Originally posted by nickbradley:
With Alex Smith, we know what we get at this point: an average starter with a QB rating of 80 - 85 when mature and healthy: (385/641/4159/30/21 in '09 and '10)

Now, that's good enough to win some games with a good defense and running game, but it isn't enough to take you all the way...think Jake Delhomme in Carolina. This will be even more true in the future, with rule changes enhancing the role of the quarterback (QB rating has been going up over the last few years).

So, let's re-sign Alex for 2 -3 years and draft a rookie in the first or second round ...my preference at this point would be to draft a QB in the second (or third) round like Stanzi or Ponder. But if we have a shot at Locker or Cam Newton in the middle of the 1st, that works for me too.

If the rookie pans out and is a 90+ QB rating guy, then great. But if he's a bust, we still have Alex Smith to give you decent production.

Thoughts?

Alex sucks ass. Troy Smith is better than he is hands down. Stanzi is very mediocre. Anyone who ever seen a Iowa game knows he isnt very accurate and has a average arm. 49ers are best served keeping Troy, dumping Smith off the same cliff and Simpletary. 49ers need to get the best QB they can as early as they can. Either Luck, Mallet or Locker which ever falls to us we must grab. A CB or any other position is a luxury pick we cant afford with our QB issues.
Originally posted by SanDiego49er:
Alex could be the best option for 2011. A rookie won't be ready. Troy Smith has some deficiencies. Carr can't play. You won't get anything good out of the FA class. If you play a rookie you are looking at 1 - 15.

And there may not really be any off season for rookies to get ready due to CBA and there may not be any FA to speak of also. Next year, for better or worse, what you see from your team now may be the best possible next year with the abbreviated training camps etc.
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