With Alex Smith, we know what we get at this point: an average starter with a QB rating of 80 - 85 when mature and healthy: (385/641/4159/30/21 in '09 and '10)
Now, that's good enough to win some games with a good defense and running game, but it isn't enough to take you all the way...think Jake Delhomme in Carolina. This will be even more true in the future, with rule changes enhancing the role of the quarterback (QB rating has been going up over the last few years).
So, let's re-sign Alex for 2 -3 years and draft a rookie in the first or second round ...my preference at this point would be to draft a QB in the second (or third) round like Stanzi or Ponder. But if we have a shot at Locker or Cam Newton in the middle of the 1st, that works for me too.
If the rookie pans out and is a 90+ QB rating guy, then great. But if he's a bust, we still have Alex Smith to give you decent production.
Thoughts?
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Re-sign Alex, Draft a QB in the 1st or 2nd Rd (regardless of HC)
Dec 13, 2010 at 2:48 PM
- nickbradley
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Dec 13, 2010 at 2:49 PM
- jreff22
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don't we have like 3 of these threads
[ Edited by jreff22 on Dec 13, 2010 at 2:49 PM ]
Dec 13, 2010 at 2:49 PM
- nickbradley
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Originally posted by jreff22:
don't we have like 3 of these threads
recently?
Dec 13, 2010 at 2:50 PM
- Jakemall
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Originally posted by nickbradley:
With Alex Smith, we know what we get at this point: an average starter with a QB rating of 80 - 85 when mature and healthy: (385/641/4159/30/21 in '09 and '10)
Now, that's good enough to win some games with a good defense and running game, but it isn't enough to take you all the way...think Jake Delhomme in Carolina. This will be even more true in the future, with rule changes enhancing the role of the quarterback (QB rating has been going up over the last few years).
So, let's re-sign Alex for 2 -3 years and draft a rookie in the first or second round ...my preference at this point would be to draft a QB in the second (or third) round like Stanzi or Ponder. But if we have a shot at Locker or Cam Newton in the middle of the 1st, that works for me too.
If the rookie pans out and is a 90+ QB rating guy, then great. But if he's a bust, we still have Alex Smith to give you decent production.
Thoughts?
Alex is the best we have..so yeah, we should re-sign him. We should draft a rook.
Dec 13, 2010 at 2:52 PM
- fakers23
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Originally posted by Jakemall:Originally posted by nickbradley:
With Alex Smith, we know what we get at this point: an average starter with a QB rating of 80 - 85 when mature and healthy: (385/641/4159/30/21 in '09 and '10)
Now, that's good enough to win some games with a good defense and running game, but it isn't enough to take you all the way...think Jake Delhomme in Carolina. This will be even more true in the future, with rule changes enhancing the role of the quarterback (QB rating has been going up over the last few years).
So, let's re-sign Alex for 2 -3 years and draft a rookie in the first or second round ...my preference at this point would be to draft a QB in the second (or third) round like Stanzi or Ponder. But if we have a shot at Locker or Cam Newton in the middle of the 1st, that works for me too.
If the rookie pans out and is a 90+ QB rating guy, then great. But if he's a bust, we still have Alex Smith to give you decent production.
Thoughts?
Alex is the best we have..so yeah, we should re-sign him. We should draft a rook.
Ugh,NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO! I don't want The Bust back period! Why can't you Alex lovers accept reality! He's not welcome in San Fran!
Dec 13, 2010 at 2:52 PM
- darkknight49
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Can we please wait until these last few games are over before suggesting we resign smith? I admit, he'll probably be better than most other qbs we'll be able to get in the FA market (if there even is a FA period), let's just see what happens the next couple weeks.
Dec 13, 2010 at 2:53 PM
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Originally posted by fakers23:Originally posted by Jakemall:Originally posted by nickbradley:
With Alex Smith, we know what we get at this point: an average starter with a QB rating of 80 - 85 when mature and healthy: (385/641/4159/30/21 in '09 and '10)
Now, that's good enough to win some games with a good defense and running game, but it isn't enough to take you all the way...think Jake Delhomme in Carolina. This will be even more true in the future, with rule changes enhancing the role of the quarterback (QB rating has been going up over the last few years).
So, let's re-sign Alex for 2 -3 years and draft a rookie in the first or second round ...my preference at this point would be to draft a QB in the second (or third) round like Stanzi or Ponder. But if we have a shot at Locker or Cam Newton in the middle of the 1st, that works for me too.
If the rookie pans out and is a 90+ QB rating guy, then great. But if he's a bust, we still have Alex Smith to give you decent production.
Thoughts?
Alex is the best we have..so yeah, we should re-sign him. We should draft a rook.
Ugh,NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO! I don't want The Bust back period! Why can't you Alex lovers accept reality! He's not welcome in San Fran!
Lover? Tell me who is better on this team at QB? no one...so we keep the best and try to get something better. I don't see your logic...you'd rather just suck next year while we throw another inexperienced QB up against the wall to see if he sticks?
Dec 13, 2010 at 2:54 PM
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I'd like to see if we can trade or sign a vet QB. then draft a rookie to groom.
Alex would be my very last choice if we can't lure anyone else.
Alex would be my very last choice if we can't lure anyone else.
Dec 13, 2010 at 2:54 PM
- fakers23
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Originally posted by Jakemall:Originally posted by fakers23:Originally posted by Jakemall:Originally posted by nickbradley:
With Alex Smith, we know what we get at this point: an average starter with a QB rating of 80 - 85 when mature and healthy: (385/641/4159/30/21 in '09 and '10)
Now, that's good enough to win some games with a good defense and running game, but it isn't enough to take you all the way...think Jake Delhomme in Carolina. This will be even more true in the future, with rule changes enhancing the role of the quarterback (QB rating has been going up over the last few years).
So, let's re-sign Alex for 2 -3 years and draft a rookie in the first or second round ...my preference at this point would be to draft a QB in the second (or third) round like Stanzi or Ponder. But if we have a shot at Locker or Cam Newton in the middle of the 1st, that works for me too.
If the rookie pans out and is a 90+ QB rating guy, then great. But if he's a bust, we still have Alex Smith to give you decent production.
Thoughts?
Alex is the best we have..so yeah, we should re-sign him. We should draft a rook.
Ugh,NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO! I don't want The Bust back period! Why can't you Alex lovers accept reality! He's not welcome in San Fran!
Lover? Tell me who is better on this team at QB? no one...so we keep the best and try to get something better. I don't see your logic...you'd rather just suck next year while we throw another inexperienced QB up against the wall to see if he sticks?
My logic?? How about 6 years of failure! How's that for logic!
Dec 13, 2010 at 2:54 PM
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http://www.49erswebzone.com/forum/thread.php?num=149903
http://www.49erswebzone.com/forum/thread.php?num=149674
http://www.49erswebzone.com/forum/thread.php?num=149682
http://www.49erswebzone.com/forum/thread.php?num=149818
http://www.49erswebzone.com/forum/thread.php?num=149683
http://www.49erswebzone.com/forum/thread.php?num=149597
http://www.49erswebzone.com/forum/thread.php?num=149572
http://www.49erswebzone.com/forum/thread.php?num=149674
http://www.49erswebzone.com/forum/thread.php?num=149682
http://www.49erswebzone.com/forum/thread.php?num=149818
http://www.49erswebzone.com/forum/thread.php?num=149683
http://www.49erswebzone.com/forum/thread.php?num=149597
http://www.49erswebzone.com/forum/thread.php?num=149572
Dec 13, 2010 at 2:56 PM
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I say we Resign Alex and draft a new QB regardless of the HC.
Dec 13, 2010 at 2:58 PM
- phatbutskinny
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imo resign alex and troy smith, get rid of david carr, draft an early round QB and we'll be set. Troy still has unlimited potential imo
Dec 13, 2010 at 2:59 PM
- nickbradley
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Originally posted by fakers23:Originally posted by Jakemall:Originally posted by nickbradley:
With Alex Smith, we know what we get at this point: an average starter with a QB rating of 80 - 85 when mature and healthy: (385/641/4159/30/21 in '09 and '10)
Now, that's good enough to win some games with a good defense and running game, but it isn't enough to take you all the way...think Jake Delhomme in Carolina. This will be even more true in the future, with rule changes enhancing the role of the quarterback (QB rating has been going up over the last few years).
So, let's re-sign Alex for 2 -3 years and draft a rookie in the first or second round ...my preference at this point would be to draft a QB in the second (or third) round like Stanzi or Ponder. But if we have a shot at Locker or Cam Newton in the middle of the 1st, that works for me too.
If the rookie pans out and is a 90+ QB rating guy, then great. But if he's a bust, we still have Alex Smith to give you decent production.
Thoughts?
Alex is the best we have..so yeah, we should re-sign him. We should draft a rook.
Ugh,NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO! I don't want The Bust back period! Why can't you Alex lovers accept reality! He's not welcome in San Fran!
An 80-85 QB rating player is NOT a bust. Those are Phil Simms-type career stats, adjusted for today's more QB-friendly environment.
http://www.nfl.com/players/philsimms/profile?id=SIM342758
Dec 13, 2010 at 2:59 PM
- fakers23
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And people wonder why we haven't won for 8 years... Just look at Alex Lovers and you get your answer... To want to bring a Bust back for a 7th year is just stupid...
Dec 13, 2010 at 3:01 PM
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Originally posted by phatbutskinny:
imo resign alex and troy smith, get rid of david carr, draft an early round QB and we'll be set. Troy still has unlimited potential imo
FYI resign means to give up deliberately. Re-Sign means to sign them again.