AB's 3rd Mock of the season | Page 5

AB81Rules · 2010-11-30T12:08:42-08:00

Bare with me, There are some surprises. And please, it is very early in the process, so please don't bash me too hard, lol. Well here goes, with analysis. 1. CAR - WR A.J. Green, Georgia - Could go Luck or Bowers, but I see them going with a bigger need, WR. 2. DET - 4-3 DE Da'Quan Bowers, Clemson - With Stafford, they go there biggest need, a pure DE for the 4-3 Scheme. 3. CIN - NT Nick Fairley, Auburn - Huge DT fits The system in Cincinnati 4. BUF - QB Andrew Luck, Stanford - They are thrilled with Luck falling, and they may hear some calls for Him. But in this mock, I have not inculded potential trades. 5. ARZ - QB Jake Locker, Washington - After a terrible showing at QB, they need one badly. 6. DEN - 4-3 DE Adrian Clayborn, Iowa - Fits in, could probably play either the 4-3 End or 3-4 End/OLB. 7. DAL - CB Patrick Peterson, LSU - They get a steal, and they need a CB badly, so Peterson fits. 8. SF - Prince Amukamara, Nebraska - SF needs a lot, but CB seems high on that list. 9. MIN - QB Ryan Mallet, Arkansas - In need of Favre's replacement, they go Mallet. 10. CLE - WR Julio Jones, Alabama - CLE has McCoy, Hillis, Thomas, etc... and now gets there dynamic WR. 11. SEA - QB Cam Newton, Auburn - A surprise, but he will be a good pro, and SEA gets a nice player. 12. NE (f/OAK) - 3-4 DE Marcel Dareus, Alabama - With the pick from OAK, they take a 3-4 DE to fit there scheme. 13. WASH - RB Mark Ingram, Alabama - In need of weapons, they opt for a RB to help McNabb, and rest Portis more, and they can still get a WR in rd 3. 14. TEN - CB Ras-I Dowling, Virginia - In need of CB help, even with Finnegan, who is not exactly elite, they get a good corner. 15. HOU - CB Janoris Jenkins, Florida - Again, a team in need, after losing Dunta Robinson, they get there man. 16. SD - OLB Robert Quinn, North Carolina - Many needs, WR, maybe a OL, but OLB is a huge need, and after cutting loose Merriman, Beal will be a nice pick. 17. IND - 3-4 DE Marvin Austin, North Carolina - He has fallen a bit, but he will fit in nicely with Indy. 18. MIA - RB Demarco Murray, Oklahoma - In need of a potential replacement for Brown/Williams, they go with Murray, who has shot up the boards. 19. TB - OLB Von Miller, Texas A&M - Need is there, and Miller fits nicely. 20. GB - NT Jerrel Powe, Ole Miss. - Powe, fills a need, and is the best NT remaining. 21. STL - WR Justin Blackmon, Oklahoma State - Needed is a playmaking WR, and Blackmon is that. 22. JAX - OT Gabe Carimi, Wisconsin - Can use a Tackle, and he is the best in the draft to me. 23. KC - OLB Bruce Carter, North Carolina - Need a OLB, and Carter is a good one with potential. 24. NYG - OT Anthony Castonzo, Boston College - Another need for the G-Men, and Castonzo is a good one. 25. PHI - OT Derek Sherrod, Colorado - Fits a need as well, and they need someone to help protect Vick or Kolb or whoever is QB in 2011. 26. CHI - WR Jonathan Baldwin, Pittsburgh - Need, Need, Need. All I say, and Baldwin is a good one. 27. NO - DT Cameron Heyward, Ohio State - Absolute Steal, for someone rated so high coming into 2010, he will come in and be an monster at DE or DT. 28. BAL - S Rahim Moore, UCLA - With the uncertain futures of Ed Reed and Landry, I see them targeting Moore all the way. 29. PITT - C/OG Mike Pouncey, Florida - Picked, and reunted with brother Maurkice, there #1 pick in 2010. 30. NE - OLB Justin Houston, Georgia - With Heyward off the board, and getting Dareus, they go for a OLB, and Houston is a good one. 31. NYJ - WR Michael Floyd, Notre Dame - Needing a WR, they get the best on the board. 32. ATL - CB Aaron Williams, Texas - Rounding out the 1st with a top notch Corner.

Dec 3, 2010 at 7:27 AM

#61

daragon
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Originally posted by WestCoast:
There is no chance in hell that we don't draft a QB with our first pick. No chance.

But if we don't have a shot at Luck and we are in the middle of the first, there may not be a QB worth the pick there. And, with the regime, I doubt we would ever trade as much as it would take to get to pick 1 or anywhere in the top 5. It won't happen. I'll tell you right now, we aren't getting Luck.

Dec 3, 2010 at 3:30 PM

#62

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Originally posted by AB83Rules:
Originally posted by MadDog49er:
1 Carolina 1-10
Andrew Luck- This is a no-brainer. The top QB prospect in a long time goes to a team that has a number of struggling vets, and a second round rookie that has proven to be

2 Detroit 2-9
Da'Quan Bowers- Many think that Peterson is the choice here, but a CB has never been drafted this high. Bowers helps on the worst pass rushes in the NFL after a sensational off-season workout.

3 Cincinnati 2-9
Nick Fairley- The Bengals need a dominant DL, and Fairley is the best of this crop. He has been virtually unblockable this season, and teams will notice the impact of Suh on the Lions defense in 2010.

4 Buffalo 2-9
Patrick Peterson- The Bills finally attempt to correct their CB play, and Peterson is easily the best CB on the board.

5 Arizona 3-8
AJ Green- The Cards have never looked the same since Boldin left the squad, and Breaston is best as a third WR. Green takes so much pressure off of Fitzgerald.

6 Denver 3-8
Adrian Clayborn- The Broncos DL needs retooling, and Clayborn can play in either a 3-4 system or 4-3 system regardless of what happens to the DC this offseason.

7 Dallas 3-8
Derek Sherrod- Marc Colombo is long in the tooth and injury prone, and the Cowboys need some serious work to retool their OL. There will be an OT selected in the top ten picks, and I believe this is the player and the correct slot area.

8 San Francisco 4-7
Marcel Dareus- The Niners may lose Franklin in free agency, and the team, whether in a 3-4, or 4-3 defense, needs a youth infusion on the DL.

If arizona gets AJ I will go friggin balistic.

And agreed with jreff, why no Amukamara?

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AJ has sex appeal since he is the best player at a skill position. But I will be absolutely ecstatic if the Cardinals take him.

If we've learned anything from the Cardinals this year its...

An All-Pro receiver means amazingly little when nobody can get him the ball.

If the Cards don't trade Fitzgerald this offseason (as they likely will) then he is done for sure after next season (contract expires, can't franchise him).

In fact, I would love the Cardinals to get totally loaded at the skill positions while still neglecting the QB spot.

Not getting a QB = fail, for the Cardinals.

Dec 4, 2010 at 10:38 AM

#63

Shifty
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I'm sorry no way Carolina and Cincy pass on Luck.

Dec 4, 2010 at 10:53 AM

#64

OnTheClock
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Originally posted by okdkid:
Originally posted by AB83Rules:
Originally posted by MadDog49er:
1 Carolina 1-10
Andrew Luck- This is a no-brainer. The top QB prospect in a long time goes to a team that has a number of struggling vets, and a second round rookie that has proven to be

2 Detroit 2-9
Da'Quan Bowers- Many think that Peterson is the choice here, but a CB has never been drafted this high. Bowers helps on the worst pass rushes in the NFL after a sensational off-season workout.

3 Cincinnati 2-9
Nick Fairley- The Bengals need a dominant DL, and Fairley is the best of this crop. He has been virtually unblockable this season, and teams will notice the impact of Suh on the Lions defense in 2010.

4 Buffalo 2-9
Patrick Peterson- The Bills finally attempt to correct their CB play, and Peterson is easily the best CB on the board.

5 Arizona 3-8
AJ Green- The Cards have never looked the same since Boldin left the squad, and Breaston is best as a third WR. Green takes so much pressure off of Fitzgerald.

6 Denver 3-8
Adrian Clayborn- The Broncos DL needs retooling, and Clayborn can play in either a 3-4 system or 4-3 system regardless of what happens to the DC this offseason.

7 Dallas 3-8
Derek Sherrod- Marc Colombo is long in the tooth and injury prone, and the Cowboys need some serious work to retool their OL. There will be an OT selected in the top ten picks, and I believe this is the player and the correct slot area.

8 San Francisco 4-7
Marcel Dareus- The Niners may lose Franklin in free agency, and the team, whether in a 3-4, or 4-3 defense, needs a youth infusion on the DL.

If arizona gets AJ I will go friggin balistic.

And agreed with jreff, why no Amukamara?

________

AJ has sex appeal since he is the best player at a skill position. But I will be absolutely ecstatic if the Cardinals take him.

If we've learned anything from the Cardinals this year its...

An All-Pro receiver means amazingly little when nobody can get him the ball.

If the Cards don't trade Fitzgerald this offseason (as they likely will) then he is done for sure after next season (contract expires, can't franchise him).

In fact, I would love the Cardinals to get totally loaded at the skill positions while still neglecting the QB spot.

Not getting a QB = fail, for the Cardinals.

I can absolutely see all of that happening, with the Cardinals looking QB in the following rounds at other QB's. With the influx of juniors, I expect some good quarterbacks to fall.

Dec 4, 2010 at 5:04 PM

#65

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Originally posted by jreff22:
Originally posted by MadDog49er:

8 San Francisco 4-7
Marcel Dareus- The Niners may lose Franklin in free agency, and the team, whether in a 3-4, or 4-3 defense, needs a youth infusion on the DL.

No love for Prince?

I don't think he'll be a top ten pick. Too many quality DL push him down the board. CB's are not often picked in the top 10 selections. It is a rarity.

Dec 4, 2010 at 7:05 PM

#66

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Originally posted by MadDog49er:
Originally posted by jreff22:
Originally posted by MadDog49er:

8 San Francisco 4-7
Marcel Dareus- The Niners may lose Franklin in free agency, and the team, whether in a 3-4, or 4-3 defense, needs a youth infusion on the DL.

No love for Prince?

I don't think he'll be a top ten pick. Too many quality DL push him down the board. CB's are not often picked in the top 10 selections. It is a rarity.

additionally, defending against the pass starts at the line of scrimmage, thus a pass-rushing d-liner is much more important than a cornerback.

Dec 4, 2010 at 8:42 PM

#67

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Originally posted by communist:
Originally posted by MadDog49er:
Originally posted by jreff22:
Originally posted by MadDog49er:

8 San Francisco 4-7
Marcel Dareus- The Niners may lose Franklin in free agency, and the team, whether in a 3-4, or 4-3 defense, needs a youth infusion on the DL.

No love for Prince?

I don't think he'll be a top ten pick. Too many quality DL push him down the board. CB's are not often picked in the top 10 selections. It is a rarity.
additionally, defending against the pass starts at the line of scrimmage, thus a pass-rushing d-liner is much more important than a cornerback.

This is true. Prince is the best Senior CB of his class, but the talented big-bodies carry a higher value these days.

If we pick outside of 10, he becomes a prime target, however.

Dec 5, 2010 at 5:11 PM

#68

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Originally posted by OnTheClock:
Originally posted by communist:
Originally posted by MadDog49er:
Originally posted by jreff22:
Originally posted by MadDog49er:

8 San Francisco 4-7
Marcel Dareus- The Niners may lose Franklin in free agency, and the team, whether in a 3-4, or 4-3 defense, needs a youth infusion on the DL.

No love for Prince?

I don't think he'll be a top ten pick. Too many quality DL push him down the board. CB's are not often picked in the top 10 selections. It is a rarity.
additionally, defending against the pass starts at the line of scrimmage, thus a pass-rushing d-liner is much more important than a cornerback.

This is true. Prince is the best Senior CB of his class, but the talented big-bodies carry a higher value these days.

If we pick outside of 10, he becomes a prime target, however.

So many talented guys this year, if all come out. Best DT/3-4 DE crop to my memory.

Dec 5, 2010 at 5:21 PM

#69

OnTheClock
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Originally posted by MadDog49er:
Originally posted by OnTheClock:
Originally posted by communist:
Originally posted by MadDog49er:
Originally posted by jreff22:
Originally posted by MadDog49er:

8 San Francisco 4-7
Marcel Dareus- The Niners may lose Franklin in free agency, and the team, whether in a 3-4, or 4-3 defense, needs a youth infusion on the DL.

No love for Prince?

I don't think he'll be a top ten pick. Too many quality DL push him down the board. CB's are not often picked in the top 10 selections. It is a rarity.
additionally, defending against the pass starts at the line of scrimmage, thus a pass-rushing d-liner is much more important than a cornerback.

This is true. Prince is the best Senior CB of his class, but the talented big-bodies carry a higher value these days.

If we pick outside of 10, he becomes a prime target, however.

So many talented guys this year, if all come out. Best DT/3-4 DE crop to my memory.

Now about Dareus, isn't he a little more towards 310? He would probably be better to place in the 4-3, don't you think?

[ Edited by OnTheClock on Dec 5, 2010 at 5:22 PM ]

Dec 6, 2010 at 4:25 AM

#70

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If there is just a slight chance to pick-up Luck, we should try everything to make it happen!

Draft Luck, re-Sign Troy Smith (will be a great backup) and add a vet. That would be a good off-season for the QB-position

Dec 6, 2010 at 6:43 AM

#71

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Originally posted by MadDog49er:
Originally posted by jreff22:
Originally posted by MadDog49er:

8 San Francisco 4-7
Marcel Dareus- The Niners may lose Franklin in free agency, and the team, whether in a 3-4, or 4-3 defense, needs a youth infusion on the DL.

No love for Prince?

I don't think he'll be a top ten pick. Too many quality DL push him down the board. CB's are not often picked in the top 10 selections. It is a rarity.

Aren't we ignoring a glaring hole again if we do that? OLB major hole, CB major hole, QB currently major hole...is a DE really that high on the list? I understand BPA but we have ignored major positions and are getting smoked because of it. We need starters and taking a CB in the 3rd isnt going to do that.