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AB's 3rd Mock of the season

Originally posted by AB83Rules:
Originally posted by jojomellon:
Originally posted by AB83Rules:
Originally posted by chico49erfan:
Originally posted by jojomellon:
Theres no way DET would pass Peterson and the Prince for a DE. Just no way.

And the word is 'their'

Also hate GB taking yet another NT. They just took Raji and still have Pickett moved over to End. Lots more needs in other places.

JAX spent their top two picks of 09 on T's, both of whom are playing well. They have one of the worst secondaries in the league as well. But another Tackle it is!

Damn, dude. Chill out. No need to be so rude about it.

he is just pissed with me, cause I tried proving him wrong about Kolbs deal, and he posted an article where it said he got a 10M signing bonus, but never says in which yr.

And supposely I was rude, which II dont think I was, but i apologized. So whatever.
???I did say what year it was in, this year. Why would the signing bonus be delayed by a year? That was the whole point. The whole sports world talks about Kolb;s cheap cap number next year yet you keep posting about how hes going to make 12 mil next year. does. not. compute.

cause it happens all the tim, plus it could of been spit into 2 yrs, since some times they split the bonuses over many years, so its not def in this yr.
except, it is. As I proved.
Originally posted by jojomellon:
Originally posted by AB83Rules:
Originally posted by jojomellon:
Originally posted by AB83Rules:
Originally posted by chico49erfan:
Originally posted by jojomellon:
Theres no way DET would pass Peterson and the Prince for a DE. Just no way.

And the word is 'their'

Also hate GB taking yet another NT. They just took Raji and still have Pickett moved over to End. Lots more needs in other places.

JAX spent their top two picks of 09 on T's, both of whom are playing well. They have one of the worst secondaries in the league as well. But another Tackle it is!

Damn, dude. Chill out. No need to be so rude about it.

he is just pissed with me, cause I tried proving him wrong about Kolbs deal, and he posted an article where it said he got a 10M signing bonus, but never says in which yr.

And supposely I was rude, which II dont think I was, but i apologized. So whatever.
???I did say what year it was in, this year. Why would the signing bonus be delayed by a year? That was the whole point. The whole sports world talks about Kolb;s cheap cap number next year yet you keep posting about how hes going to make 12 mil next year. does. not. compute.

cause it happens all the tim, plus it could of been spit into 2 yrs, since some times they split the bonuses over many years, so its not def in this yr.
except, it is. As I proved.

I didnt see anywhere in the article, ill check again. But its possible it was pro rated over 2 seasons.
jojo- just re read it, NO WHERE does it say he received it all in 2010.

Its possible the team places it in 2011, as its possible, it happens all the time with contracts.

And what is it with this, why do you have this thing against me?
Carolina-QB Andrew Luck, Stanford: best player in the draft
Detroit- CB Patrick Peterson, LSU: need and 2nd best player in the draft
Cincinnati-QB Jake Locker, Washington: Palmer, renegotiate and groom the future
Buffalo-DE Marcel Dareus, Alabama: glad they don't have to explain not taking QB
Arizona- QB Cam Newton, Auburn:Whisenhunt sees faster Big Ben
Dallas-CB Prince Amukamara, Nebraska: who cares who they take
Denver- WR A.J. Green, Georgia: AJ pissed at slide, takes it out on Raiders
San Francisco-DE Nick Fairley, Auburn: you really want Mallet? He sucks!
Minnesota- QB Ryan Mallett, Arkansas:
Cleveland-DE Robert Quinn, North Carolina: Ryan gets a pass rushing toy
St. Louis- RB Mark Ingram, Alabama: Jackson too dinged up lately
Seattle- DE Adrian Clayborn, Iowa: reloads pass rushing end position
Washington-WR Justin Blackmon, OK State: weapon for grandpa
Tennessee- DT Stephen Paea, Oregon State: they love penetrating tackles
Houston- CB Brandon Harris, Miami: must ... have .... dbs
San Diego- OT Derek Sherrod, Mississippi State: cry me a Rivers with this pick
Jacksonville-CB Bruce Carter, North Carolina: need meets talent
Indianapolis- OT Anthony Castonzo, Boston College: Peyton confused, oline?
Miami- QB Nick Foles, Arizona: ESPN analysts shocked, need QB
Kansas City- LDE Cameron Jordan, California: you suck Tyson
NY Giants- LB Akeem Ayers, UCLA: LB? yes please!
Tampa Bay- DT Cameron Heyward, Ohio State: looking to upgrade interior line
Philadelphia- LB Travis Lewis, Oklahoma: too many injuries
Green Bay- CB Janoris Jenkins, Florida: looking to upgrade position and depth
Chicago-WR Jonathan Baldwin, Pittsburgh: weapon for Cutler
New Orleans- DE Ryan Kerrigan, Purdue: pass rush pass rush pass rush
Baltimore- DE J.J. Watt, Wisconsin: I hate you Ozzie
Pittsburgh-DE Justin Houston, Georgia: another solid front 7 piece
NY Jets- LB Jeremy Beal, Oklahoma: need meets opportunity
Atlanta- Mike Pouncey OG, Florida: add protection for Ryan
New England- CB Johnny Patrick, Louisville: NE has 12 of next 14 picks

That is how I see it right now.
Originally posted by ChaunceyGardner:
Carolina-QB Andrew Luck, Stanford: best player in the draft
Detroit- CB Patrick Peterson, LSU: need and 2nd best player in the draft
Cincinnati-QB Jake Locker, Washington: Palmer, renegotiate and groom the future
Buffalo-DE Marcel Dareus, Alabama: glad they don't have to explain not taking QB
Arizona- QB Cam Newton, Auburn:Whisenhunt sees faster Big Ben
Dallas-CB Prince Amukamara, Nebraska: who cares who they take
Denver- WR A.J. Green, Georgia: AJ pissed at slide, takes it out on Raiders
San Francisco-DE Nick Fairley, Auburn: you really want Mallet? He sucks!
Minnesota- QB Ryan Mallett, Arkansas:
Cleveland-DE Robert Quinn, North Carolina: Ryan gets a pass rushing toy
St. Louis- RB Mark Ingram, Alabama: Jackson too dinged up lately
Seattle- DE Adrian Clayborn, Iowa: reloads pass rushing end position
Washington-WR Justin Blackmon, OK State: weapon for grandpa
Tennessee- DT Stephen Paea, Oregon State: they love penetrating tackles
Houston- CB Brandon Harris, Miami: must ... have .... dbs
San Diego- OT Derek Sherrod, Mississippi State: cry me a Rivers with this pick
Jacksonville-CB Bruce Carter, North Carolina: need meets talent
Indianapolis- OT Anthony Castonzo, Boston College: Peyton confused, oline?
Miami- QB Nick Foles, Arizona: ESPN analysts shocked, need QB
Kansas City- LDE Cameron Jordan, California: you suck Tyson
NY Giants- LB Akeem Ayers, UCLA: LB? yes please!
Tampa Bay- DT Cameron Heyward, Ohio State: looking to upgrade interior line
Philadelphia- LB Travis Lewis, Oklahoma: too many injuries
Green Bay- CB Janoris Jenkins, Florida: looking to upgrade position and depth
Chicago-WR Jonathan Baldwin, Pittsburgh: weapon for Cutler
New Orleans- DE Ryan Kerrigan, Purdue: pass rush pass rush pass rush
Baltimore- DE J.J. Watt, Wisconsin: I hate you Ozzie
Pittsburgh-DE Justin Houston, Georgia: another solid front 7 piece
NY Jets- LB Jeremy Beal, Oklahoma: need meets opportunity
Atlanta- Mike Pouncey OG, Florida: add protection for Ryan
New England- CB Johnny Patrick, Louisville: NE has 12 of next 14 picks

That is how I see it right now.

I can def see us taking Fairley. especially if Prince and Peterson are off the board. And yeah I want no part of Mallet.
Originally posted by AB83Rules:
Originally posted by ChaunceyGardner:
Carolina-QB Andrew Luck, Stanford: best player in the draft
Detroit- CB Patrick Peterson, LSU: need and 2nd best player in the draft
Cincinnati-QB Jake Locker, Washington: Palmer, renegotiate and groom the future
Buffalo-DE Marcel Dareus, Alabama: glad they don't have to explain not taking QB
Arizona- QB Cam Newton, Auburn:Whisenhunt sees faster Big Ben
Dallas-CB Prince Amukamara, Nebraska: who cares who they take
Denver- WR A.J. Green, Georgia: AJ pissed at slide, takes it out on Raiders
San Francisco-DE Nick Fairley, Auburn: you really want Mallet? He sucks!
Minnesota- QB Ryan Mallett, Arkansas:
Cleveland-DE Robert Quinn, North Carolina: Ryan gets a pass rushing toy
St. Louis- RB Mark Ingram, Alabama: Jackson too dinged up lately
Seattle- DE Adrian Clayborn, Iowa: reloads pass rushing end position
Washington-WR Justin Blackmon, OK State: weapon for grandpa
Tennessee- DT Stephen Paea, Oregon State: they love penetrating tackles
Houston- CB Brandon Harris, Miami: must ... have .... dbs
San Diego- OT Derek Sherrod, Mississippi State: cry me a Rivers with this pick
Jacksonville-CB Bruce Carter, North Carolina: need meets talent
Indianapolis- OT Anthony Castonzo, Boston College: Peyton confused, oline?
Miami- QB Nick Foles, Arizona: ESPN analysts shocked, need QB
Kansas City- LDE Cameron Jordan, California: you suck Tyson
NY Giants- LB Akeem Ayers, UCLA: LB? yes please!
Tampa Bay- DT Cameron Heyward, Ohio State: looking to upgrade interior line
Philadelphia- LB Travis Lewis, Oklahoma: too many injuries
Green Bay- CB Janoris Jenkins, Florida: looking to upgrade position and depth
Chicago-WR Jonathan Baldwin, Pittsburgh: weapon for Cutler
New Orleans- DE Ryan Kerrigan, Purdue: pass rush pass rush pass rush
Baltimore- DE J.J. Watt, Wisconsin: I hate you Ozzie
Pittsburgh-DE Justin Houston, Georgia: another solid front 7 piece
NY Jets- LB Jeremy Beal, Oklahoma: need meets opportunity
Atlanta- Mike Pouncey OG, Florida: add protection for Ryan
New England- CB Johnny Patrick, Louisville: NE has 12 of next 14 picks

That is how I see it right now.

I can def see us taking Fairley. especially if Prince and Peterson are off the board. And yeah I want no part of Mallet.

I don't have anything against Mallet, he is just so one dimensional and not too bright. I am tired of watching a boring plodding offense.
Originally posted by AB83Rules:
jojo- just re read it, NO WHERE does it say he received it all in 2010.

Its possible the team places it in 2011, as its possible, it happens all the time with contracts.

And what is it with this, why do you have this thing against me?

Don't worry about it the guy acts like this to everyone. You're probably not wrong and he's just wasting your time. I'm guessing you're right.
I'd feel nervous if Seattle and Arizona both got qbs and we didn't. But a cb is a smart pick
Originally posted by WillistheWall:
Originally posted by AB83Rules:
jojo- just re read it, NO WHERE does it say he received it all in 2010.

Its possible the team places it in 2011, as its possible, it happens all the time with contracts.

And what is it with this, why do you have this thing against me?

Don't worry about it the guy acts like this to everyone. You're probably not wrong and he's just wasting your time. I'm guessing you're right.

thanks, I dont get people, why they hold grudges or just dislike people especially on a friggin forum of all places. It irks me.
There is no chance in hell that we don't draft a QB with our first pick. No chance.
Originally posted by AB83Rules:
jojo- just re read it, NO WHERE does it say he received it all in 2010.

Its possible the team places it in 2011, as its possible, it happens all the time with contracts.

And what is it with this, why do you have this thing against me?

You read a press release that happened minutes after the deal. I posted details after details of the contract leaked.


Kevin Kolb's Contract Extension Includes $10.7 Million Signing Bonus
Apr
29
6:02p
by Joel Thorman

Because of the lack of a new collective bargaining agreement, the Eagles and QB Kevin Kolb had to work on a contract that works within the system.

With no CBA, there is something called the 30 percent rule which restricts base salaries from increasing more than 30 percent from year-to-year.

So, how did the two sides get around the 30 percent rule?

Kolb received a $10.7 million signing bonus, which isn't regulated under the 30 percent rule.

Kolb and the Eagles likely didn't work on a long-term extension because of the complexities involved in the 30 percent rule.



from schefter
"Quote:
So does Kevin Kolb get dealt?

No, not necessarily. They have him under contract next year for $1.4 million, a very friendly contract. Unless you get blown away by an offer, you’re holding on to both. And it’s up to some team to sway them otherwise."



4/29/2010: Signed a two-year, $12.25 million contract. The deal, fully guaranteed, included a $10.7 million signing bonus. 2010: $715,000, 2011: $1.392 million


why would kolb sign a deal without an immediate signing bonus? Especially during an uncapped year.

Nah, lets pay him during the year we have the salary cap back, that makes sense........
Originally posted by WillistheWall:
Originally posted by AB83Rules:
jojo- just re read it, NO WHERE does it say he received it all in 2010.

Its possible the team places it in 2011, as its possible, it happens all the time with contracts.

And what is it with this, why do you have this thing against me?

Don't worry about it the guy acts like this to everyone. You're probably not wrong and he's just wasting your time. I'm guessing you're right.

there ya go. Disregard facts and just revel in blind ignorance. Wheee!
what is your friggin deal with me, Im not saying your wrong, but it could happen, Im not trying to act like I know it all, but Ive had far more expeirence in contract structure.

But If your correct than so be it, but stop acting like u know it and Im 0% chance of being right.

Im sick of it, your acting like a friggin child with this.

Originally posted by jojomellon:
Originally posted by AB83Rules:
jojo- just re read it, NO WHERE does it say he received it all in 2010.

Its possible the team places it in 2011, as its possible, it happens all the time with contracts.

And what is it with this, why do you have this thing against me?

You read a press release that happened minutes after the deal. I posted details after details of the contract leaked.


Kevin Kolb's Contract Extension Includes $10.7 Million Signing Bonus
Apr
29
6:02p
by Joel Thorman

Because of the lack of a new collective bargaining agreement, the Eagles and QB Kevin Kolb had to work on a contract that works within the system.

With no CBA, there is something called the 30 percent rule which restricts base salaries from increasing more than 30 percent from year-to-year.

So, how did the two sides get around the 30 percent rule?

Kolb received a $10.7 million signing bonus, which isn't regulated under the 30 percent rule.

Kolb and the Eagles likely didn't work on a long-term extension because of the complexities involved in the 30 percent rule.



from schefter
"Quote:
So does Kevin Kolb get dealt?

No, not necessarily. They have him under contract next year for $1.4 million, a very friendly contract. Unless you get blown away by an offer, you’re holding on to both. And it’s up to some team to sway them otherwise."



4/29/2010: Signed a two-year, $12.25 million contract. The deal, fully guaranteed, included a $10.7 million signing bonus. 2010: $715,000, 2011: $1.392 million


why would kolb sign a deal without an immediate signing bonus? Especially during an uncapped year.

Nah, lets pay him during the year we have the salary cap back, that makes sense........
And 1 thing, Im sick of internet feuds, I have more things to worry about.

SO I didnt answer, I have more things in my life, like my SSD being denied, or Depression, OCD and Bi Polar, no need to feud.

Screw it, I dont give a f**k, sorry Mods but its the truth.
Originally posted by jojomellon:
Originally posted by WillistheWall:
Originally posted by AB83Rules:
jojo- just re read it, NO WHERE does it say he received it all in 2010.

Its possible the team places it in 2011, as its possible, it happens all the time with contracts.

And what is it with this, why do you have this thing against me?

Don't worry about it the guy acts like this to everyone. You're probably not wrong and he's just wasting your time. I'm guessing you're right.

there ya go. Disregard facts and just revel in blind ignorance. Wheee!

lol like when I was talking about the WCO and how good teams like GB and Philly are using it, and you had no comeback so you simply said "well theres gotta be some other teams using some other systems that are successful and stuff too!" more or less. It's not ignorance, you act condescending towards anyone who disagrees with you and then try to prove them wrong because it seems like it makes you feel better to be proven right on an internet forum, which you don't even always succeed at. But go ahead, keep saying I'm ignorant. I really don't care. Here you are jumping on AB and not willing to drop it and you're just proving me right.