Would the Zone approve of using our first three picks to manipulate a situation to end up with Okung and Mankins? Just wondering.
I'm not saying we should do this, but it would be interesting. Okung is a future star and Mankins is a LG with two probowls under his belt and years to go. It would be nice to have a vet like that to put on the same side as the rookie.
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We would forego getting a pass rusher in the draft, but we would get two for-sure players.
Just a thought.
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Apr 4, 2010 at 9:37 AM
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Apr 4, 2010 at 9:40 AM
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I could understand the trade up for Okung, especially if he slipped into the bottom end of the top 10 for some reason, but there's no way we get Mankins. He's tendered at first and third round pick level, which basically means that the Pats are not letting him go any time soon.
Apr 4, 2010 at 9:59 AM
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I'd rather just draft a tackle at 13 or 17 and go with Baas for another year. I still think Baas can be a good player for us. Remember he was hurt in TC so he got off to a slow start last year. 
Apr 4, 2010 at 10:38 AM
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Originally posted by PA9erFaithful:
I could understand the trade up for Okung, especially if he slipped into the bottom end of the top 10 for some reason, but there's no way we get Mankins. He's tendered at first and third round pick level, which basically means that the Pats are not letting him go any time soon.
New England can accept whatever they want for Mankins.
Apr 4, 2010 at 10:48 AM
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Originally posted by bigwads:Originally posted by PA9erFaithful:
I could understand the trade up for Okung, especially if he slipped into the bottom end of the top 10 for some reason, but there's no way we get Mankins. He's tendered at first and third round pick level, which basically means that the Pats are not letting him go any time soon.
New England can accept whatever they want for Mankins.
I know that, I still don't believe Mankins is going anywhere, at least not this season.
Apr 4, 2010 at 3:14 PM
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I'm actually in favor of trading up for Okung. OT is BY FAR our biggest need and Okung is the only tackle in this draft without a significant flaw.
Apr 4, 2010 at 3:16 PM
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Originally posted by mayo63:
I'd rather just draft a tackle at 13 or 17 and go with Baas for another year. I still think Baas can be a good player for us. Remember he was hurt in TC so he got off to a slow start last year.
I agree. He's still raw and needs solid coaching, something he should get plenty of this year.
Apr 4, 2010 at 8:16 PM
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Originally posted by PA9erFaithful:Originally posted by bigwads:Originally posted by PA9erFaithful:
I could understand the trade up for Okung, especially if he slipped into the bottom end of the top 10 for some reason, but there's no way we get Mankins. He's tendered at first and third round pick level, which basically means that the Pats are not letting him go any time soon.
New England can accept whatever they want for Mankins.
I know that, I still don't believe Mankins is going anywhere, at least not this season.
For sure, I'm just wondering if the Zone would dig this if it happened...that's all.
Apr 4, 2010 at 8:17 PM
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Originally posted by Draftology:
I'm actually in favor of trading up for Okung. OT is BY FAR our biggest need and Okung is the only tackle in this draft without a significant flaw.
Exactly, and our staff has already said that they don't want two rookies starting. Mankins is a sage and would be valuable in many ways, not just in his play. His experience would be great for our young OL.
Apr 4, 2010 at 9:12 PM
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Originally posted by Draftology:
I'm actually in favor of trading up for Okung. OT is BY FAR our biggest need and Okung is the only tackle in this draft without a significant flaw.
How is his run blocking? One of the pre drat magizines I have (SportingNews to be exact) sites it as an area of weakness saying he mostly run blocks by positioning, and not is not very physical. I think that is the way Joe Staley blocks in the run game. I don't now if I feel comfortable having two tackles with questionable physicality in the run game. I don't know if this evaluation is accurate or not, if anyone can cite anything to dispute this let me know.
Apr 4, 2010 at 9:56 PM
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Originally posted by GorefullBore:That could be true, but I haven't heard that before. I heard he was at least solid in all areas, excels in pass protection, and has tons of potential.Originally posted by Draftology:
I'm actually in favor of trading up for Okung. OT is BY FAR our biggest need and Okung is the only tackle in this draft without a significant flaw.
How is his run blocking? One of the pre drat magizines I have (SportingNews to be exact) sites it as an area of weakness saying he mostly run blocks by positioning, and not is not very physical. I think that is the way Joe Staley blocks in the run game. I don't now if I feel comfortable having two tackles with questionable physicality in the run game. I don't know if this evaluation is accurate or not, if anyone can cite anything to dispute this let me know.
Apr 4, 2010 at 10:13 PM
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apparently in the 2005 draft we wanted logan mankins with the first pick of the second round until he went the pats with the last pick of the first round, and we end up with david baas, how things could have been different
Apr 5, 2010 at 8:48 AM
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Draft Lupati and the best OT available with one of our two first round picks.
Apr 5, 2010 at 9:43 AM
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Originally posted by foreign49er:Originally posted by mayo63:
I'd rather just draft a tackle at 13 or 17 and go with Baas for another year. I still think Baas can be a good player for us. Remember he was hurt in TC so he got off to a slow start last year.
I agree. He's still raw and needs solid coaching, something he should get plenty of this year.
Agreed. Remember that he's only entering his 6th year in the NFL. Most guards need that amount of time before you can reasonably expect production from them.
Apr 5, 2010 at 11:40 AM
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Originally posted by GORO:
Draft Lupati and the best OT available with one of our two first round picks.
I say draft best OT available at 13 and then Lupati at 17.
This way you address talent, depth and add competition at every oline spot except for LT and center. Rachal was a turnstile last year so improving at guard is a good idea as well.
Grab the best return man/ change of pace back in the 2nd round.
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