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Better Playmaker Pick at 13: Dez Bryant or CJ Spiller

Better Playmaker Pick at 13: Dez Bryant or CJ Spiller

If I had to choose between the two, I would take Dez Bryant (prefer to trade up for Okung). Here's why:

Both are good return men (CJ is a bit better), but a player's ability to return punts and kicks at an elite level only lasts for a few years. After that, players revert back to their primary position.

With Crabtree and Bryant on the edges, and Vernon Davis in the middle, defenses would be absolutely befuddled. If defenses try to shutdown the WRs with a cover 2, VD will eat them alive. If they key on VD, the WRs will shred them.

With Spiller, he can be effective out of the backfield for 10 carries a game or so and 3 - 5 catches out of the backfield...maybe a bit out of the slot. Really limited in his long-term impact on the offense.

If vote for Dez!
Also forgot to mention that if a defense rolls to a cover two to compensate for Crabs and Dez, they also present us a 7-man front.
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Spiller- unanimous 1st team ALL-AMERICAN kick returner.
- scored 51 TDs
-He is 1 of only 2 players,[Reggie Bush is the other] in NCAA history to gain 3000yds rushing
-1500 kickoff return
- 1000 receiving
-500 punt return
-8 kickoff returns for TDs
-21 career TDs of 50yds or more
- only player in the nation with a TD in every game in 09", 14 games in a row
-2 TD passes
- 1.46 seconds 10 yd split time of 40 yd dash
- with a turf toe injury most of the yr.

[ Edited by cupcheck on Mar 29, 2010 at 18:58:03 ]
Originally posted by cupcheck:
Spiller- unanimous 1st team ALL-AMERICAN kick returner.
- scored 51 TDs
-He is 1 of only 2 players,[Reggie Bush is the other] in NCAA history to gain 3000yds rushing
-1500 kickoff return
- 1000 recieving
-500 punt return
-8 kickoff returns for TDs
-21 career TDs of 50yds or more
- only player in the nation with a TD in every game in 09", 14 games in a row
-2 TD passes
- 1.46 seconds 10 yd split time of 40 yd dash
Dez Bryant could'nt carry CJ.'s cleates.

he is a 1 year wonder at RB look at his stats other than last year they are not that good not to mention his avg is only 5.5 yds per play i know people will say he split time but do u really want to spend a top 15 pick on a guy who couldnt even be a full time starter in college?
Originally posted by 49ersalldaway126:
Originally posted by cupcheck:
Spiller- unanimous 1st team ALL-AMERICAN kick returner.
- scored 51 TDs
-He is 1 of only 2 players,[Reggie Bush is the other] in NCAA history to gain 3000yds rushing
-1500 kickoff return
- 1000 recieving
-500 punt return
-8 kickoff returns for TDs
-21 career TDs of 50yds or more
- only player in the nation with a TD in every game in 09", 14 games in a row
-2 TD passes
- 1.46 seconds 10 yd split time of 40 yd dash
Dez Bryant could'nt carry CJ.'s cleates.

he is a 1 year wonder at RB look at his stats other than last year they are not that good not to mention his avg is only 5.5 yds per play i know people will say he split time but do u really want to spend a top 15 pick on a guy who couldnt even be a full time starter in college?

Before this season he was splitting time with James Davis.
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Originally posted by 49ersalldaway126:
Originally posted by cupcheck:
Spiller- unanimous 1st team ALL-AMERICAN kick returner.
- scored 51 TDs
-He is 1 of only 2 players,[Reggie Bush is the other] in NCAA history to gain 3000yds rushing
-1500 kickoff return
- 1000 recieving
-500 punt return
-8 kickoff returns for TDs
-21 career TDs of 50yds or more
- only player in the nation with a TD in every game in 09", 14 games in a row
-2 TD passes
- 1.46 seconds 10 yd split time of 40 yd dash
Dez Bryant could'nt carry CJ.'s cleates.

he is a 1 year wonder at RB look at his stats other than last year they are not that good not to mention his avg is only 5.5 yds per play i know people will say he split time but do u really want to spend a top 15 pick on a guy who couldnt even be a full time starter in college?

YES!!!
Originally posted by cupcheck:
Originally posted by 49ersalldaway126:
Originally posted by cupcheck:
Spiller- unanimous 1st team ALL-AMERICAN kick returner.
- scored 51 TDs
-He is 1 of only 2 players,[Reggie Bush is the other] in NCAA history to gain 3000yds rushing
-1500 kickoff return
- 1000 recieving
-500 punt return
-8 kickoff returns for TDs
-21 career TDs of 50yds or more
- only player in the nation with a TD in every game in 09", 14 games in a row
-2 TD passes
- 1.46 seconds 10 yd split time of 40 yd dash
Dez Bryant could'nt carry CJ.'s cleates.

he is a 1 year wonder at RB look at his stats other than last year they are not that good not to mention his avg is only 5.5 yds per play i know people will say he split time but do u really want to spend a top 15 pick on a guy who couldnt even be a full time starter in college?

YES!!!

it would be a waste of his talent and our pick he wont get more than 15 touches a game waste of money and draft pick dez bryabt would be on the field every offensive play would help our whole offense less people in box and us having 3 legit weapons would be huge
Originally posted by cupcheck:
Originally posted by 49ersalldaway126:
Originally posted by cupcheck:
Spiller- unanimous 1st team ALL-AMERICAN kick returner.
- scored 51 TDs
-He is 1 of only 2 players,[Reggie Bush is the other] in NCAA history to gain 3000yds rushing
-1500 kickoff return
- 1000 recieving
-500 punt return
-8 kickoff returns for TDs
-21 career TDs of 50yds or more
- only player in the nation with a TD in every game in 09", 14 games in a row
-2 TD passes
- 1.46 seconds 10 yd split time of 40 yd dash
Dez Bryant could'nt carry CJ.'s cleates.

he is a 1 year wonder at RB look at his stats other than last year they are not that good not to mention his avg is only 5.5 yds per play i know people will say he split time but do u really want to spend a top 15 pick on a guy who couldnt even be a full time starter in college?

YES!!!

do You have such a man crush on Spiller that you can't see that Dez Bryant would be a starting WR while Spiller would be a back up RB maybe the third WR that if he is a better WR the Hill and Jones.

[ Edited by dlance on Mar 29, 2010 at 19:15:19 ]
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Originally posted by 49ersalldaway126:
Originally posted by cupcheck:
Originally posted by 49ersalldaway126:
Originally posted by cupcheck:
Spiller- unanimous 1st team ALL-AMERICAN kick returner.
- scored 51 TDs
-He is 1 of only 2 players,[Reggie Bush is the other] in NCAA history to gain 3000yds rushing
-1500 kickoff return
- 1000 recieving
-500 punt return
-8 kickoff returns for TDs
-21 career TDs of 50yds or more
- only player in the nation with a TD in every game in 09", 14 games in a row
-2 TD passes
- 1.46 seconds 10 yd split time of 40 yd dash
Dez Bryant could'nt carry CJ.'s cleates.

he is a 1 year wonder at RB look at his stats other than last year they are not that good not to mention his avg is only 5.5 yds per play i know people will say he split time but do u really want to spend a top 15 pick on a guy who couldnt even be a full time starter in college?

YES!!!

it would be a waste of his talent and our pick he wont get more than 15 touches a game waste of money and draft pick dez bryabt would be on the field every offensive play would help our whole offense less people in box and us having 3 legit weapons would be huge

21 career TDs of 50yds or more, he dosen't need many touches does he. Flank him out, or throw him swing & screan passes, put him in motion, and he will help the whole offense becuase less people in the box. The differance in our views is, Gore will have fresher legs a & a longer career.

[ Edited by cupcheck on Mar 29, 2010 at 19:15:55 ]
bryant would start and return kicks. i love spiller but spiller would be a back up and a kick returner for at least two years
Originally posted by cupcheck:
Originally posted by 49ersalldaway126:
Originally posted by cupcheck:
Originally posted by 49ersalldaway126:
Originally posted by cupcheck:
Spiller- unanimous 1st team ALL-AMERICAN kick returner.
- scored 51 TDs
-He is 1 of only 2 players,[Reggie Bush is the other] in NCAA history to gain 3000yds rushing
-1500 kickoff return
- 1000 recieving
-500 punt return
-8 kickoff returns for TDs
-21 career TDs of 50yds or more
- only player in the nation with a TD in every game in 09", 14 games in a row
-2 TD passes
- 1.46 seconds 10 yd split time of 40 yd dash
Dez Bryant could'nt carry CJ.'s cleates.

he is a 1 year wonder at RB look at his stats other than last year they are not that good not to mention his avg is only 5.5 yds per play i know people will say he split time but do u really want to spend a top 15 pick on a guy who couldnt even be a full time starter in college?

YES!!!

it would be a waste of his talent and our pick he wont get more than 15 touches a game waste of money and draft pick dez bryabt would be on the field every offensive play would help our whole offense less people in box and us having 3 legit weapons would be huge

21 career TDs of 50yds or more, he dosen't need many touches does he. Flank him out, or throw him swing & screan passes, put him in motion, and he will help the whole offense becuase less people in the box. The differance in our views is, Gore will have fresher legs a & a longer career.

yet he only has 5.5 yds per carry that tells you a lot that he gets stopped a lot and with our bottom 5 OL he wont be able to do much anyway he only averages .5yds more than gore and spiller did this in college while gore is in the nfl
Originally posted by dlance:
Originally posted by cupcheck:
Originally posted by 49ersalldaway126:
Originally posted by cupcheck:
Spiller- unanimous 1st team ALL-AMERICAN kick returner.
- scored 51 TDs
-He is 1 of only 2 players,[Reggie Bush is the other] in NCAA history to gain 3000yds rushing
-1500 kickoff return
- 1000 recieving
-500 punt return
-8 kickoff returns for TDs
-21 career TDs of 50yds or more
- only player in the nation with a TD in every game in 09", 14 games in a row
-2 TD passes
- 1.46 seconds 10 yd split time of 40 yd dash
Dez Bryant could'nt carry CJ.'s cleates.

he is a 1 year wonder at RB look at his stats other than last year they are not that good not to mention his avg is only 5.5 yds per play i know people will say he split time but do u really want to spend a top 15 pick on a guy who couldnt even be a full time starter in college?

YES!!!

do You have such a man crush on Spiller that you can't see that Dez Bryant would be a starting WR while Spiller would be a back up RB maybe the third WR that if he is a better WR the Hill and Jones.

And Spiller would still touch the ball twice as much.
If Spiller were able to get 15 touches a game, wouldn't he be able to make the bigger impact? That's a pretty bad argument considering no receiver is touching the ball that many times, certainly not a slot receiver which is what Bryant would be.
Originally posted by TheGoldStandard:
If Spiller were able to get 15 touches a game, wouldn't he be able to make the bigger impact? That's a pretty bad argument considering no receiver is touching the ball that many times, certainly not a slot receiver which is what Bryant would be.

then by your arguement you are saying spiller >fitzgerald andre johnson etc because they dont touch the ball that much

the point is dez bryant presence on the field would be huge means more guys out of the box frees up VD and Craba and gore much more
Originally posted by 49ersalldaway126:
Originally posted by TheGoldStandard:
If Spiller were able to get 15 touches a game, wouldn't he be able to make the bigger impact? That's a pretty bad argument considering no receiver is touching the ball that many times, certainly not a slot receiver which is what Bryant would be.

then by your arguement you are saying spiller >fitzgerald andre johnson etc because they dont touch the ball that much

the point is dez bryant presence on the field would be huge means more guys out of the box frees up VD and Craba and gore much more

Spiller does it even more because he can line up in more postions.