Good list of return men

Nice post........choices, choices, choices! I would think the Niners go for a WR or CB with return skills because they have better depth at those positions.

Thanks for the post! It's nice to have some quality content here in the DWR this time of the year.

Great post... TONS of information... very well thought out!!!!!!

Thanks, TX.

Good list, LeRoy Vann should be on it, but other than that it's lovely.

Great post! Looking at the rounds of the best return men for the last decade, it looks like 5th and 6th are good rounds. That really helps me with CJ Spiller in the first. Cause it's hard to get contributors in the 5th and 6th rounds at most other positions. So I can dedicate a latter round choice to a return man, and focus my first round picks on players who can contribute every down.

(Note: CJ Spiller might be an every down back, but so is Frank Gore.)

and great job!

Given this information and the high caliber return specialists all through out the draft class, I have to say that it would be prudent NOT to draft Spiller so that those two picks are used for every down players who can immediately impact the team, maybe even start.

But, I love Spiller and its going to piss me off if he does go to Seattle!

Do you think Mays and Willis could run him down?

I keed, I keed...

Great post and information. Although there are some great prospects, I'm still on the Spiller bandwagon. None of them have come close to his production despite Spiller not being am everydown back in college. Like others have said, give me the best at a postion of need as opposed to a lower ranking player of another postion.

Originally posted by ttime1:
Great post and information. Although there are some great prospects, I'm still on the Spiller bandwagon. None of them have come close to his production despite Spiller not being am everydown back in college. Like others have said, give me the best at a postion of need as opposed to a lower ranking player of another postion.

I don't think the gap is that wide if we're just talking return ability to warrant the difference in value between a 1st and 5th round pick. RB is not a position of need. A Cb who can return also is much bigger need and in this draft, a far better value. I just don't think you spend a top pick on a guy who wil only see 10-12 snaps a game when you already have a perennial probowler playing his position.

Originally posted by TX9R:

Originally posted by ttime1:
Great post and information. Although there are some great prospects, I'm still on the Spiller bandwagon. None of them have come close to his production despite Spiller not being am everydown back in college. Like others have said, give me the best at a postion of need as opposed to a lower ranking player of another postion.

I don't think the gap is that wide if we're just talking return ability to warrant the difference in value between a 1st and 5th round pick. RB is not a position of need. A Cb who can return also is much bigger need and in this draft, a far better value. I just don't think you spend a top pick on a guy who wil only see 10-12 snaps a game when you already have a perennial probowler playing his position.

But the probowler is very close to that magical age of 30. I would rather have young kids on the roster learning behind Gore then waiting till he leaves and drafting a kid whose had no experience.

But a CB with ST skills is a must and I hope we draft one as well. I would like to come out of this draft with 2-3 kids who can move the rock on ST.

Originally posted by jreff22:

Originally posted by TX9R:

Originally posted by ttime1:
Great post and information. Although there are some great prospects, I'm still on the Spiller bandwagon. None of them have come close to his production despite Spiller not being am everydown back in college. Like others have said, give me the best at a postion of need as opposed to a lower ranking player of another postion.

I don't think the gap is that wide if we're just talking return ability to warrant the difference in value between a 1st and 5th round pick. RB is not a position of need. A Cb who can return also is much bigger need and in this draft, a far better value. I just don't think you spend a top pick on a guy who wil only see 10-12 snaps a game when you already have a perennial probowler playing his position.

But the probowler is very close to that magical age of 30. I would rather have young kids on the roster learning behind Gore then waiting till he leaves and drafting a kid whose had no experience.

But a CB with ST skills is a must and I hope we draft one as well. I would like to come out of this draft with 2-3 kids who can move the rock on ST.

Gore turns 27 in May, not that close to 30, basically his prime. LT was 27 in his record year. RB is the one position you don't need to sit a year or two, you come in and produce which is why Spiller would be a waste. Wait 2 years, then draft a successor and get max value.
We have too many holes for a luxury pick who isn't an every down player, and likely not even a 3rd down bask because Frank excells there. I just don't see why you want your best player off the field other than to spell him for a rest.
The best route is a CB who can return, a specialist who only has to return, and maybe a speed back/ WR who can return and fill in here and there. Those players can be had in alter rounds and we save our top picks for top flight full time players at positions of need.

Originally posted by TX9R:

Originally posted by jreff22:

Originally posted by TX9R:

Originally posted by ttime1:
Great post and information. Although there are some great prospects, I'm still on the Spiller bandwagon. None of them have come close to his production despite Spiller not being am everydown back in college. Like others have said, give me the best at a postion of need as opposed to a lower ranking player of another postion.

I don't think the gap is that wide if we're just talking return ability to warrant the difference in value between a 1st and 5th round pick. RB is not a position of need. A Cb who can return also is much bigger need and in this draft, a far better value. I just don't think you spend a top pick on a guy who wil only see 10-12 snaps a game when you already have a perennial probowler playing his position.

But the probowler is very close to that magical age of 30. I would rather have young kids on the roster learning behind Gore then waiting till he leaves and drafting a kid whose had no experience.

But a CB with ST skills is a must and I hope we draft one as well. I would like to come out of this draft with 2-3 kids who can move the rock on ST.

Gore turns 27 in May, not that close to 30, basically his prime. LT was 27 in his record year. RB is the one position you don't need to sit a year or two, you come in and produce which is why Spiller would be a waste. Wait 2 years, then draft a successor and get max value.
We have too many holes for a luxury pick who isn't an every down player, and likely not even a 3rd down bask because Frank excells there. I just don't see why you want your best player off the field other than to spell him for a rest.
The best route is a CB who can return, a specialist who only has to return, and maybe a speed back/ WR who can return and fill in here and there. Those players can be had in alter rounds and we save our top picks for top flight full time players at positions of need.

Spiller ability to do everything is why I want him. We can line him up in the slot if need be, just to create more mismatches. Spiller is the best RB this year, whose to say in 2-3 years when Gore starts to slide we are in a position to get a great RB? I love Gore but the 2 games he was out showed that MROB cant carry the load and Coffee....well Coffee is still a major ?. Having a real speed threat on O will open up more options to us.

Every analysts describe Spiller as the super-explosive home-run threat with excellent speed and is a threat to take it the distance at any time from anywhere on the field.

How can you not want a kid that has those attributes?

Originally posted by jreff22:

Originally posted by TX9R:

Originally posted by jreff22:

Originally posted by TX9R:

Originally posted by ttime1:
Great post and information. Although there are some great prospects, I'm still on the Spiller bandwagon. None of them have come close to his production despite Spiller not being am everydown back in college. Like others have said, give me the best at a postion of need as opposed to a lower ranking player of another postion.

I don't think the gap is that wide if we're just talking return ability to warrant the difference in value between a 1st and 5th round pick. RB is not a position of need. A Cb who can return also is much bigger need and in this draft, a far better value. I just don't think you spend a top pick on a guy who wil only see 10-12 snaps a game when you already have a perennial probowler playing his position.

But the probowler is very close to that magical age of 30. I would rather have young kids on the roster learning behind Gore then waiting till he leaves and drafting a kid whose had no experience.

But a CB with ST skills is a must and I hope we draft one as well. I would like to come out of this draft with 2-3 kids who can move the rock on ST.

Gore turns 27 in May, not that close to 30, basically his prime. LT was 27 in his record year. RB is the one position you don't need to sit a year or two, you come in and produce which is why Spiller would be a waste. Wait 2 years, then draft a successor and get max value.
We have too many holes for a luxury pick who isn't an every down player, and likely not even a 3rd down bask because Frank excells there. I just don't see why you want your best player off the field other than to spell him for a rest.
The best route is a CB who can return, a specialist who only has to return, and maybe a speed back/ WR who can return and fill in here and there. Those players can be had in alter rounds and we save our top picks for top flight full time players at positions of need.

Spiller ability to do everything is why I want him. We can line him up in the slot if need be, just to create more mismatches. Spiller is the best RB this year, whose to say in 2-3 years when Gore starts to slide we are in a position to get a great RB? I love Gore but the 2 games he was out showed that MROB cant carry the load and Coffee....well Coffee is still a major ?. Having a real speed threat on O will open up more options to us.

Every analysts describe Spiller as the super-explosive home-run threat with excellent speed and is a threat to take it the distance at any time from anywhere on the field.

How can you not want a kid that has those attributes?

Sure I would want him, I just don't think it's good value with the other holes we have to fill. Felix Jones was the same kind of player and he's shown flashes, but also been hurt a lot. But Dallas had the luxury because they didn't have glaring holes elsewhere. Harvin the exact same deal, missed a lot of time, but went to a team with no holes. We are not that type of team. As far as 2 years from now there are good backs every year in most rounds of the draft, you don't have to spend a first to get a good one.l

Originally posted by TX9R:

Originally posted by jreff22:

Originally posted by TX9R:

Originally posted by ttime1:
Great post and information. Although there are some great prospects, I'm still on the Spiller bandwagon. None of them have come close to his production despite Spiller not being am everydown back in college. Like others have said, give me the best at a postion of need as opposed to a lower ranking player of another postion.

I don't think the gap is that wide if we're just talking return ability to warrant the difference in value between a 1st and 5th round pick. RB is not a position of need. A Cb who can return also is much bigger need and in this draft, a far better value. I just don't think you spend a top pick on a guy who wil only see 10-12 snaps a game when you already have a perennial probowler playing his position.

But the probowler is very close to that magical age of 30. I would rather have young kids on the roster learning behind Gore then waiting till he leaves and drafting a kid whose had no experience.

But a CB with ST skills is a must and I hope we draft one as well. I would like to come out of this draft with 2-3 kids who can move the rock on ST.

Gore turns 27 in May, not that close to 30, basically his prime. LT was 27 in his record year. RB is the one position you don't need to sit a year or two, you come in and produce which is why Spiller would be a waste. Wait 2 years, then draft a successor and get max value.
We have too many holes for a luxury pick who isn't an every down player, and likely not even a 3rd down bask because Frank excells there. I just don't see why you want your best player off the field other than to spell him for a rest.
The best route is a CB who can return, a specialist who only has to return, and maybe a speed back/ WR who can return and fill in here and there. Those players can be had in alter rounds and we save our top picks for top flight full time players at positions of need.

10 to 12 snaps plus KR/PR duties would automatically put the ball in his hands second only to Gore and he can in fact be on the filed with Gore at times. This is not a one back league anymore and with Spiller's ability to EFFECTIVELY handle multiple duites his value is much greater than simply a RB or a CB who also can handle KR/PR. BIg difference.