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Does this means we might draft "exceptions" now?
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Does this means we might draft "exceptions" now?
Mar 18, 2010 at 5:31 PM
- Ronnie49Lott
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Do you think the McCloughan's "Bigger players are better" draft philosophy will be maintained or are smaller, lighter players being drafted early a possiblity now?
Mar 18, 2010 at 5:40 PM
- Niners23
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No, Baalke, the person taking over drafting etc. is a protege of McCloughan and will more than likely keep what he has setup. Moreover, the draft board, by most accounts is basically set, with some minor tweaking depending on pro-day performances/team workouts. The last thing the 49ers would do is make a giant change in their drafting approach with a month left to go until the draft; so I would expect everything to stay the status quo in terms of what types of players they will look to draft.
Mar 18, 2010 at 6:08 PM
- tohara3
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Agree, I don't see much changing.
Mar 18, 2010 at 10:48 PM
- Ronnie49Lott
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I'd like to think that whoever makes the picks doesn't pass over good players because they might be a little smaller or shorter than the norm.
Mar 18, 2010 at 10:49 PM
- filthydogma
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with mc gone it may affect the third round and on but our basic needs are still the same. I don't think they totally revamp the process but rather refine it I mean come on why did they let him go at the start of the second wave of free agency other than to give someone else time to view tape, evaluate talent, look for a sleeper or someone who needs to sharpen thier skills to be a good player.
Mar 18, 2010 at 10:50 PM
- WillistheWall
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MM said on twitter that our draft board might change.
Mar 18, 2010 at 11:03 PM
- Daniel2778
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i really hope so
Mar 18, 2010 at 11:09 PM
- DesiDez
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I think they're will be slight change. For example if Singletary is intent on drafting a pass rusher in the 1st rd, and the choices came down to Brandon Graham vs Everson Griffen, I can see him going with the more productive player in Graham even though Griffen has better measurables.
I also expect Singletary to draft players who probably remind them of him: tough, physical, not afraid of contact, a little cocky, all-heart, maybe undersize, production over potential, religious etc....
I trust Singletary's judgement though he did need convincing to draft Willis. He did however, discover Dashon Goldson at East-West Shrine game.
I also expect Singletary to draft players who probably remind them of him: tough, physical, not afraid of contact, a little cocky, all-heart, maybe undersize, production over potential, religious etc....
I trust Singletary's judgement though he did need convincing to draft Willis. He did however, discover Dashon Goldson at East-West Shrine game.
Mar 18, 2010 at 11:24 PM
- GhostofFredDean74
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If anyone believes we'll still follow the Scot formula, you're fooling yourself. Scot is gone for a reason...they can say it's "personal" all they want to, but you can't tell me that front office NFL professionals can't set their personal issues aside for a few more weeks until after the most important part of their season is over, and THEN take a personal leave of absence.
Come on, this is all about draft/personnel philosophy...Scot is old school in his approach and very stubborn about it (unlike Sing who has shown the willingness to change to meet the strengths of his personnel and the changes in the league). Unfortunately, Scot's approach has yet to net us a winning record. It's time for a change, and that's very likely the REAL reason Scot is no longer in charge.
Come on, this is all about draft/personnel philosophy...Scot is old school in his approach and very stubborn about it (unlike Sing who has shown the willingness to change to meet the strengths of his personnel and the changes in the league). Unfortunately, Scot's approach has yet to net us a winning record. It's time for a change, and that's very likely the REAL reason Scot is no longer in charge.
[ Edited by GhostofFredDean74 on Mar 18, 2010 at 11:25 PM ]
Mar 18, 2010 at 11:51 PM
- bigmike55
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Originally posted by DesiDez:
I think they're will be slight change. For example if Singletary is intent on drafting a pass rusher in the 1st rd, and the choices came down to Brandon Graham vs Everson Griffen, I can see him going with the more productive player in Graham even though Griffen has better measurables.
I also expect Singletary to draft players who probably remind them of him: tough, physical, not afraid of contact, a little cocky, all-heart, maybe undersize, production over potential, religious etc....
I trust Singletary's judgement though he did need convincing to draft Willis. He did however, discover Dashon Goldson at East-West Shrine game.
In this case... "With the 17th selection of the 2010 NFL Draft, the San Francisco 49ers select Taylor Mays, Safety USC"
*boooooooooooooooooooooooo* mixed with *yaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay!*
Mar 18, 2010 at 11:57 PM
- Ronnie49Lott
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Originally posted by GhostofFredDean74:
If anyone believes we'll still follow the Scot formula, you're fooling yourself. Scot is gone for a reason...they can say it's "personal" all they want to, but you can't tell me that front office NFL professionals can't set their personal issues aside for a few more weeks until after the most important part of their season is over, and THEN take a personal leave of absence.
Come on, this is all about draft/personnel philosophy...Scot is old school in his approach and very stubborn about it (unlike Sing who has shown the willingness to change to meet the strengths of his personnel and the changes in the league). Unfortunately, Scot's approach has yet to net us a winning record. It's time for a change, and that's very likely the REAL reason Scot is no longer in charge.
I am beginning to think McCloughans "Bigger is Better" draft philosophy speech coupled with an unwillingness to compromise was the last straw for the team.
Mar 19, 2010 at 12:12 AM
- Kolohe
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Originally posted by Ronnie49Lott:Originally posted by GhostofFredDean74:
If anyone believes we'll still follow the Scot formula, you're fooling yourself. Scot is gone for a reason...they can say it's "personal" all they want to, but you can't tell me that front office NFL professionals can't set their personal issues aside for a few more weeks until after the most important part of their season is over, and THEN take a personal leave of absence.
Come on, this is all about draft/personnel philosophy...Scot is old school in his approach and very stubborn about it (unlike Sing who has shown the willingness to change to meet the strengths of his personnel and the changes in the league). Unfortunately, Scot's approach has yet to net us a winning record. It's time for a change, and that's very likely the REAL reason Scot is no longer in charge.
I am beginning to think McCloughans "Bigger is Better" draft philosophy speech coupled with an unwillingness to compromise was the last straw for the team.
You guys really think that had something to do with it??
Mar 19, 2010 at 12:35 AM
- DesiDez
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Originally posted by Kolohe:Originally posted by Ronnie49Lott:Originally posted by GhostofFredDean74:
If anyone believes we'll still follow the Scot formula, you're fooling yourself. Scot is gone for a reason...they can say it's "personal" all they want to, but you can't tell me that front office NFL professionals can't set their personal issues aside for a few more weeks until after the most important part of their season is over, and THEN take a personal leave of absence.
Come on, this is all about draft/personnel philosophy...Scot is old school in his approach and very stubborn about it (unlike Sing who has shown the willingness to change to meet the strengths of his personnel and the changes in the league). Unfortunately, Scot's approach has yet to net us a winning record. It's time for a change, and that's very likely the REAL reason Scot is no longer in charge.
I am beginning to think McCloughans "Bigger is Better" draft philosophy speech coupled with an unwillingness to compromise was the last straw for the team.
You guys really think that had something to do with it??
I think it had to do with the Carr signing and then the Hill trade, imo.
Mar 19, 2010 at 1:09 AM
- WillistheWall
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Originally posted by bigmike55:Originally posted by DesiDez:
I think they're will be slight change. For example if Singletary is intent on drafting a pass rusher in the 1st rd, and the choices came down to Brandon Graham vs Everson Griffen, I can see him going with the more productive player in Graham even though Griffen has better measurables.
I also expect Singletary to draft players who probably remind them of him: tough, physical, not afraid of contact, a little cocky, all-heart, maybe undersize, production over potential, religious etc....
I trust Singletary's judgement though he did need convincing to draft Willis. He did however, discover Dashon Goldson at East-West Shrine game.
In this case... "With the 17th selection of the 2010 NFL Draft, the San Francisco 49ers select Taylor Mays, Safety USC"
*boooooooooooooooooooooooo* mixed with *yaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay!*
nah, Mays isn't undersized and didn't have great production. He's the Scotty type of measurables and athleticism over production. THe guy he just described IMO was Earl Thomas.
Mar 19, 2010 at 1:12 AM
- LeftBankeNiner
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Another size queen like McCloughan.
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