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Maryland OT Bruce Campbell

Originally posted by GhostofFredDean74:
Originally posted by teeohh:
Originally posted by GhostofFredDean74:
Campbell's biggest problems are lack of experience, poor technique and nagging injuries. I can deal and work with the first 2, but the last one is problematic.

The upside though is that he's highly motivated, works hard and has physical skills for a tackle that are through the roof. I think he's less of a risk than most people imagine, mostly because he seems to want this pretty badly (whereas a lot of guys aren't willing to put in the work necessary to be great).

Because of his work ethic and desire, I'd take Campbell over Anthony Davis any day of the week, even though Davis is presently far ahead of Campbell in terms of technique and overall playing experience.

What are Davis' character issues?

Where did I say Davis had character issues?


This guy from PFW thinks Davis has issues . . .

Quote:
OT Anthony Davis, Rutgers*
Known to abhor the weight room at Rutgers and rely far too much on his natural ability, Davis showed up at the Combine looking sloppy-bodied and overweight. At 323 pounds, he clocked above 5.4 in the 40 on some watches and managed only 21 reps of 225 pounds, the fewest of any of the top four tackles who grade out the highest in the draft on tape. Known for consistently being late and not being accountable in college, Davis demonstrated his immaturity during interviews.

http://www.profootballweekly.com/2010/03/02/combine-winners-and-losers
Originally posted by jta854:
Originally posted by RollinWith21n52:
Originally posted by PTulini:
Originally posted by teeohh:
Supposedly looks really bad on tape.

I have my doubts too. I'm just not sure if one of the top OTs will be there for us to draft @ #13 or #17? We may have to look elsewhere.

If the other 4 OTs are off the board, we can also assume that Bradford, Berry, Suh and McCoy are off the board. That means that one of (or several actually) will be on the board when we pick:

-Jason Paul Pierre: The highest ceiling in this class. This guy has what it takes to be one of the best pass rushers in the league.

-Joe Haden: Best corner to come out in the last several years. Could be an upgrade over anyone we have in the secondary...and this is clearly an area that needs help.

-CJ Spiller: Dynamic playmaker who will stretch the field and be an elite return specialist.

-Dez Bryant: Physical makings of the next Andre Johnson, who can give us the best receiving core in the league (Crabtree, Bryant, Davis???? wow!)

-Rolando McClain: a QB of the defense who can take over the play calling duties and be the leader of that defense that we've been lacking.

-Jimmy Claussen: A potential franchise QB. This cannot be stressed enough.

-Dan Williams: A true NT that doesn't necessarily fill a huge need right now, but does play the second most important position for our team (QB being first).

At least 3 of these players will be available to us. And we pass on one of them in order to take a 2nd round OT? This guy can be Kwami Harris for all we know, what good will that do for us???

You SOB, I know you didn’t just bad mouth Patrick Willis!!!

Sorry, but it's true. Willis isn't the leader the team wants him to be. Is he the best pure LB in the league? I believe so. In fact, from strictly a player standpoint, he may be the best defensive player in the league. But he is not the on-the-field coach that McClain can be.
If Bruce happened to be available at #17, I'd take a real long look at him. From some of the videos posted, it shows that he has some quick feet, long arms, and a lot of strength to be able to pancake a defender. My only problem is that he tends to stay pretty high sometimes.

If the Niners drafted him, I'm sure Vernon would take him under his wing and along with Solari and Brown, they would get the best out of Campbell (barring injury of course).
Originally posted by SF69ers:
If Bruce happened to be available at #17, I'd take a real long look at him. From some of the videos posted, it shows that he has some quick feet, long arms, and a lot of strength to be able to pancake a defender. My only problem is that he tends to stay pretty high sometimes.

If the Niners drafted him, I'm sure Vernon would take him under his wing and along with Solari and Brown, they would get the best out of Campbell (barring injury of course).

I agree. With Ray Brown & Mike Solari I think they could help him get his fundamentals down.
Originally posted by RonMexico:

Boom Stick!
If he goes to the right team, right situation and right O-Line coach, he will be a pro bowl offensive tackle in 3yrs and stay one for the next 5-10yrs.
Originally posted by jta854:
Originally posted by RollinWith21n52:
Originally posted by PTulini:
Originally posted by teeohh:
Supposedly looks really bad on tape.

I have my doubts too. I'm just not sure if one of the top OTs will be there for us to draft @ #13 or #17? We may have to look elsewhere.

If the other 4 OTs are off the board, we can also assume that Bradford, Berry, Suh and McCoy are off the board. That means that one of (or several actually) will be on the board when we pick:

-Jason Paul Pierre: The highest ceiling in this class. This guy has what it takes to be one of the best pass rushers in the league.

-Joe Haden: Best corner to come out in the last several years. Could be an upgrade over anyone we have in the secondary...and this is clearly an area that needs help.

-CJ Spiller: Dynamic playmaker who will stretch the field and be an elite return specialist.

-Dez Bryant: Physical makings of the next Andre Johnson, who can give us the best receiving core in the league (Crabtree, Bryant, Davis???? wow!)

-Rolando McClain: a QB of the defense who can take over the play calling duties and be the leader of that defense that we've been lacking.

-Jimmy Claussen: A potential franchise QB. This cannot be stressed enough.

-Dan Williams: A true NT that doesn't necessarily fill a huge need right now, but does play the second most important position for our team (QB being first).

At least 3 of these players will be available to us. And we pass on one of them in order to take a 2nd round OT? This guy can be Kwami Harris for all we know, what good will that do for us???

You SOB, I know you didn’t just bad mouth Patrick Willis!!!

i have to agree with him he is a playmaker and the best LB in the nfl however he isnt a vocal leader we dont have that in the huddle yet
Originally posted by 49ersalldaway126:
Originally posted by jta854:
Originally posted by RollinWith21n52:
Originally posted by PTulini:
Originally posted by teeohh:
Supposedly looks really bad on tape.

I have my doubts too. I'm just not sure if one of the top OTs will be there for us to draft @ #13 or #17? We may have to look elsewhere.

If the other 4 OTs are off the board, we can also assume that Bradford, Berry, Suh and McCoy are off the board. That means that one of (or several actually) will be on the board when we pick:

-Jason Paul Pierre: The highest ceiling in this class. This guy has what it takes to be one of the best pass rushers in the league.

-Joe Haden: Best corner to come out in the last several years. Could be an upgrade over anyone we have in the secondary...and this is clearly an area that needs help.

-CJ Spiller: Dynamic playmaker who will stretch the field and be an elite return specialist.

-Dez Bryant: Physical makings of the next Andre Johnson, who can give us the best receiving core in the league (Crabtree, Bryant, Davis???? wow!)

-Rolando McClain: a QB of the defense who can take over the play calling duties and be the leader of that defense that we've been lacking.

-Jimmy Claussen: A potential franchise QB. This cannot be stressed enough.

-Dan Williams: A true NT that doesn't necessarily fill a huge need right now, but does play the second most important position for our team (QB being first).

At least 3 of these players will be available to us. And we pass on one of them in order to take a 2nd round OT? This guy can be Kwami Harris for all we know, what good will that do for us???

You SOB, I know you didn’t just bad mouth Patrick Willis!!!

i have to agree with him he is a playmaker and the best LB in the nfl however he isnt a vocal leader we dont have that in the huddle yet

Willis doesn't necessarily need to be a vocal leader. Granted he is no Ray Lewis, but I think Patrick leads by example. Why does he need to be something he isn't?
[ Edited by PTulini on Mar 10, 2010 at 7:07 PM ]
Originally posted by teeohh:
Supposedly looks really bad on tape.

I don't think he looks "bad" on tape (you can see the tapes above). But he doesn't show any speed on these videos.

He seems to react slowly at the start of a play and appears to wait for the specific man he is assigned to block to make his move and then reacts to that move.

Then he locks on to that defender (mostly littler guys) and pushes them around. Of course, its no surprise that he can over-power these littler guys.

However, I didn't see him have to deal with any "stunts" on the videos and that is a concern, In the videos, he seems to be really focused on one defender. When an OT does that, he could become vulnerable to a stunt.
Originally posted by davidb:
Originally posted by teeohh:
Supposedly looks really bad on tape.

I don't think he looks "bad" on tape (you can see the tapes above). But he doesn't show any speed on these videos.

He seems to react slowly at the start of a play and appears to wait for the specific man he is assigned to block to make his move and then reacts to that move.

Then he locks on to that defender (mostly littler guys) and pushes them around. Of course, its no surprise that he can over-power these littler guys.

However, I didn't see him have to deal with any "stunts" on the videos and that is a concern, In the videos, he seems to be really focused on one defender. When an OT does that, he could become vulnerable to a stunt.

I saw some speed on those videos. He pulls pretty well too and gets that outside block so his running back can get inside. He does mirror very well, and with his long arms, i don't see why he shouldn't just wait for his defender to do something. He seemed successful at that during pass plays.
He is one of those guys that is so athletic its hard to believe he is not a good football player.
Originally posted by jta854:
He is one of those guys that is so athletic its hard to believe he is not a good football player.

I'm sure if he got the right coaching and was a little more competitive, he'd be a very solid right tackle. With his interview with the guys on NFL Network, he said the main things he wants to work on is his technique in run/pass blocking. That's a good first step.
Originally posted by jta854:
He is one of those guys that is so athletic its hard to believe he is not a good football player.

Yet.

He's probably not a good football player yet, but he's also only 21 and declared as a true junior (not redshirt). Meaning, the team that drafts him has the chance to mold this guy over time into a more polished, fundamentally-sound offensive tackle.

What they can't teach is a 6'6", 315lb chisled frame with 36" arms and amazing agility and athleticism. So the tools are all there for this guy to be great...the question then becomes, how badly does he want it and how soon will the lights turn on?
[ Edited by GhostofFredDean74 on Mar 11, 2010 at 9:43 AM ]
Originally posted by GhostofFredDean74:
Originally posted by jta854:
He is one of those guys that is so athletic its hard to believe he is not a good football player.

Yet.

He's probably not a good football player yet, but he's also only 21 and declared as a true junior (not redshirt). Meaning, the team that drafts him has the chance to mold this guy over time into a more polished, fundamentally-sound offensive tackle.

What they can't teach is a 6'6", 315lb chisled frame with 36" arms and amazing agility and athleticism. So the tools are all there for this guy to be great...the question then becomes, how badly does he want it and how soon will the lights turn on?

We shall find out, because he will be in the Bay Area.





Playing for Oakland
[ Edited by PA9erFaithful on Mar 11, 2010 at 9:49 AM ]