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Kick-off Returner or Punt Returner?

  • LilAzn9er
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This is interesting...according to Daniel Jeremiah (former scout for Browns and Ravens) is saying Spiller is better returning kick-offs than punts and Arenas is the best punt returner in the draft. This raises the question...What is more important to have? A player specializes in punts or kick-offs? Can Spiller be like Cribbs and do both? I'm a lil skeptical about that. I also like Golden Tate as a return guy.
With a good defense, a punt returner should be touching the ball more by far. And we have a good defense in my oppinion, so puntreturner should be the priority.
dude in Madden Michael robinson returned 6 kick-offs for TDs for me, i dont know why we just dont use him as our returner
punt returning is a much more difficult than kick returning... if you can punt return you can kick return, but not necessarily vice versa... returning takes much surer hands, quicker reflexes, better vision, and overall shiftiness... while Spiller is exceptionally fast he's not Desean Jackson/Devin Hester/Josh Cribbs shifty... Also punt returns for any above everage defense occur far more often than kickoffs. I'm sure he could return punts, but we'd be better off with a proven fulltime punt returner... but at the end of the day I'd love Spiller... we can find a true punt returner in round 3+ (likely where Arenas/Holiday will be)...

[ Edited by 49oz2superbowl on Feb 19, 2010 at 12:13:31 ]
  • buck
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Originally posted by LilAzn9er:
This is interesting...according to Daniel Jeremiah (former scout for Browns and Ravens) is saying Spiller is better returning kick-offs than punts and Arenas is the best punt returner in the draft. This raises the question...What is more important to have? A player specializes in punts or kick-offs? Can Spiller be like Cribbs and do both? I'm a lil skeptical about that. I also like Golden Tate as a return guy.

It just happens that Arenas was among the best at both punt and kick-off returns last year. He was in the top ten in both catogories.

Arenas was 4th in punt returns with a 15.4 yard average and 9th in kick returns with 29 yard average.

Arenas can also serve as a nickle or dime back.

Arenas would be my choice for a return specialist, but that does not mean that we should not draft CJ Spiller.

Spiller would bring speed and the ability to hit the edge to the offense.
I really think that we need a player with that ability and create a threat that will open holes for Gore and make coverage of the WR difficult.

I could see us drafting both Spiller and Arenas.

How about this combination.

1A Spiller
1B Trent Williams
2 Chad Jones SS from LSU
3. Javier Arenas

[ Edited by buck on Feb 19, 2010 at 13:33:09 ]
  • GEEK
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Originally posted by LilAzn9er:
This is interesting...according to Daniel Jeremiah (former scout for Browns and Ravens) is saying Spiller is better returning kick-offs than punts and Arenas is the best punt returner in the draft. This raises the question...What is more important to have? A player specializes in punts or kick-offs? Can Spiller be like Cribbs and do both? I'm a lil skeptical about that. I also like Golden Tate as a return guy.

Punt Returner. I think a good punt returner plays a more important role in field position.
  • mayo49
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Originally posted by buck:
Originally posted by LilAzn9er:
This is interesting...according to Daniel Jeremiah (former scout for Browns and Ravens) is saying Spiller is better returning kick-offs than punts and Arenas is the best punt returner in the draft. This raises the question...What is more important to have? A player specializes in punts or kick-offs? Can Spiller be like Cribbs and do both? I'm a lil skeptical about that. I also like Golden Tate as a return guy.

It just happens that Arenas was among the best at both punt and kick-off returns last year. He was in the top ten in both catogories.

Arenas was 4th in punt returns with a 15.4 yard average and 9th in kick returns with 29 yard average.

Arenas can also serve as a nickle or dime back.

Arenas would be my choice for a return specialist, but that does not mean that we should not draft CJ Spiller.

Spiller would bring speed and the ability to hit the edge to the offense.
I really think that we need a player with that ability and create a threat that will open holes for Gore and make coverage of the WR difficult.

I could see us drafting both Spiller and Arenas.

How about this combination.

1A Spiller
1B Trent Williams
2 Chad Jones SS from LSU
3. Javier Arenas

I like.
  • NYSunDevil49er
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Spiller has the ability to do both. I think it's obvious that it's much easier to return kicks than punts. Hopefully we draft several people who can do both. Our offense needs all the field position it can get. I havent put up my latest mock, but here's a preview:

1a. Spiller
1b. Williams/Bulaga/Campbell a.k.a. best tackle available
2. Perrish Cox
3. John Jerry
4. Akwasi Awusu-Ansah (who I project as a safety similar to Tanard Jackson)
5. Brandon Deadrick
6. Antonio Coleman
7. Kyle Williams

Spiller, Cox, and Awusu-Ansah can ALL return both Punts and Kicks.
Originally posted by buck:
Originally posted by LilAzn9er:
This is interesting...according to Daniel Jeremiah (former scout for Browns and Ravens) is saying Spiller is better returning kick-offs than punts and Arenas is the best punt returner in the draft. This raises the question...What is more important to have? A player specializes in punts or kick-offs? Can Spiller be like Cribbs and do both? I'm a lil skeptical about that. I also like Golden Tate as a return guy.

It just happens that Arenas was among the best at both punt and kick-off returns last year. He was in the top ten in both catogories.

Arenas was 4th in punt returns with a 15.4 yard average and 9th in kick returns with 29 yard average.

Arenas can also serve as a nickle or dime back.

Arenas would be my choice for a return specialist, but that does not mean that we should not draft CJ Spiller.

Spiller would bring speed and the ability to hit the edge to the offense.
I really think that we need a player with that ability and create a threat that will open holes for Gore and make coverage of the WR difficult.

I could see us drafting both Spiller and Arenas.

How about this combination.

1A Spiller
1B Trent Williams
2 Chad Jones SS from LSU
3. Javier Arenas


I like it.

I like this even better, but I think we are on the same basic page. I'd have no problem with Jones, I just want a pass rusher and think we can get S help elsewhere.

1A Williams - OT
1B Spiller - RB/KR
2 Jerry Hughes - OLB
3 Arenas - CB/KR
4 Selvish Capers/Ciron Black -OT/OG
5 Myron Rolle- S
  • Old_school
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I would go with a good punt returner over a kick returner. If our defense plays up to expectations we can expect more punts than kickoffs.
Wouldn't mind both. Similiar to what Minnesota did with Harvin and Reynour in the last draft.