Krizay's mock

Originally posted by krizay:

1A: Dez Bryant WR, Okla St. (assuming Bradford and Claussen are off the board)

1B: Mike Iupati OG, Idaho

1C: (2011 1st to New England for their 2010 1st) Bruce Campbell, OT, Maryland

We need WRs but Dez Bryant isn't worth a #11 pick and even though I have a serious man crush on Iupati picking him at 15 is overkill. No way Scott M trades away next year's first for an extra one this year assuming New England would even want to give up a first this year. Even if NE gives up a first this year Campbell could very well be gone by that point.

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2: Noel Devine RB, WVA (hasn't declared yet but he will.)

3: Kyle Calloway OT, Iowa

I really like Devine and think he'll be a Sproles-type running back but getting him in the 2nd is way overpaying. He could be had in the later rounds quite easily. Calloway is about right for 3rd round.

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4: Stephan Virgil CB, Va Tech

5: Kyle McCarthy S, Notre Dame

6: Reggie Stephens OG, Iowa St.

7: Jay Ross DT, East Carolina

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Your other picks are probably about right for value except for Virgil who has missed several games this year and didn't play in the Chick-fil-A bowl because he was academically ineligible.

Wasn't Spikes' deal last year for 2 years? Why would we need to re-sign him? He should be under contract for 2010.

Wouldn't make the trade to have 3 first rounders, I would concentrate on quality not quantity in this draft. Would not go for Dez Bryant at #1, would definitely take the top OT there. In the third and fourth round, I would take the fastest CB or WR available at either spot.

Originally posted by m_brockalexander:
Wouldn't make the trade to have 3 first rounders, I would concentrate on quality not quantity in this draft. Would not go for Dez Bryant at #1, would definitely take the top OT there. In the third and fourth round, I would take the fastest CB or WR available at either spot.

My thoughts exactly.

Sorry krizay, but if McCloughan drafted like this, i'd jump on the "Fire McCloughan" bandwagon.

-9fA

It's a terrible move to give the Patriots a #1 pick in 2011. That could be be a top 10 pick. There is no reason to do that. Why? It's not necessary.

The 1st pick is fine. Some of the others are ok. I don't like Lupati with a 1st round pick. That could be around #15 - #17. Too high for a Guard. I like him better around #30 - #45 in the draft.

Originally posted by ninerlifer:
I gotta say, I like it.

We will be very thin at WR after this year. And we get that stud boy from Idaho who from what I hear can be moved to RT. If we are gonna be a shotgun O, it would be wise to invest in Devine as he could be used in ST as well in the NFL

The thing I hate is that Dez will be represented by that idiot agent that Crabtree has.

Gilyard and Decker are two WRs who may not be represented by the @#@$%@ (and less expensive)!

Originally posted by MaliCali:
lol why on earth would we take dez bryant...

and again...no offensive linemen til the 2nd..singletary likes both chilo and baas, our only real need is RT, and both of the elite guys will be gone by the time we pick...

Why do people love our Wr's so much??

Morgan is nottt that tight, Jason Hill clearly isnt what everyone thinks he is, Bruce is gone, Battle sucks, Vernon is real unreliable on third down

Crabtree is really our only decent reliable pass catching option other than Frank.


I would think the zone out of all places would know that you need good receivers to have a good offense, and to have good Qb play. Malcolm Floyd and Vincent Jackson make Rivers look reall good. Colston and Devery make Drew brees, Randy Moss and Wes Welker do the same for Brady

you could go down the list, but we need to realize we are not set at Wr just because we drafted crabtree. Crabtree would be a GREATTT #2 receiver, I say we keep searching for #1.



of course none of this matters unless that joke of a creative mind we call an OC gets fired.

Originally posted by Kolohe:

Originally posted by krizay:

Originally posted by rtj03:
Everything except for Dez Bryant!

He is a playmaker but we have to many WR already. Rather take another OT or Playmaker on D

Too many? I would disagree with that. We have 2. If all the other WR's were on other teams "we" wouldn't think they were so hot. Could probably even include Morgan in that as well really.

I have to agree with krizay. We really don't have anyone after Crabtree, Morgan IMO, is a 3rd receiver, same with Jason Hill. Battle and Bruce will be gone, so we would look to be thin at WR position.

Seriously. People think that miraculously morgan and hill are gonna grow 2 inches and run faster and actually get separation

Originally posted by DynastyChile:

Why do people love our Wr's so much??

Morgan is nottt that tight, Jason Hill clearly isnt what everyone thinks he is, Bruce is gone, Battle sucks, Vernon is real unreliable on third down

Crabtree is really our only decent reliable pass catching option other than Frank.

For me it's not so much that our WRs are great because you've definitely nailed it here. Morgan is a decent #2. Hill and Jones aren't all that great. Bruce will be gone. Battle sucks.

However I think we have far greater needs than WR. If we can find a good one in the 3rd or 4th I'm ok with that, but not in the 1st or 2nd.

Originally posted by smileyman:

Originally posted by DynastyChile:

Why do people love our Wr's so much??

Morgan is nottt that tight, Jason Hill clearly isnt what everyone thinks he is, Bruce is gone, Battle sucks, Vernon is real unreliable on third down

Crabtree is really our only decent reliable pass catching option other than Frank.

For me it's not so much that our WRs are great because you've definitely nailed it here. Morgan is a decent #2. Hill and Jones aren't all that great. Bruce will be gone. Battle sucks.

However I think we have far greater needs than WR. If we can find a good one in the 3rd or 4th I'm ok with that, but not in the 1st or 2nd.

But it seems the majority or atleast some complaining are guys who want to take a backup RB over one. Explain that logic to me.

A guy who will be lucky to see the field 10 times a game. Versus a guy at an equal need who is every bit the playmaker who will likely see the field upwards to 50+ times a game.

Not too mention we are more of a passing team than a running team now a days. I surely can't understand why people want Spiller over Bryant.

I understand the need to replace Gore in a few years. But I'm sure there will be explosive RB's between now and the actual time to replace Gore.

would like spiller but wont be mad if we took bryant. i have absolutely no problems with adding legit weapons to our offense. only thing i would hate if we take bryant is dealing with the douche bag named eugene parker

Originally posted by FredFlintstone:
would like spiller but wont be mad if we took bryant. i have absolutely no problems with adding legit weapons to our offense. only thing i would hate if we take bryant is dealing with the douche bag named eugene parker

There's 2 things about that though. 1. Parker know we won't budge. 2. It's not the same situation as Crabtree. Bryant isn't in discussions as being the arguably the best player in the draft. He may not even be the clear cut #1 WR on most draft boards. Thus if one gets selected ahead of him, it wouldn't be the unique situation Crabs was in.

I would keep our 2011 first rounder and take McCluster in the second and then we can use the Bryant pick on Mount Cody.

Originally posted by krizay:

Originally posted by MaliCali:
lol why on earth would we take dez bryant...

and again...no offensive linemen til the 2nd..singletary likes both chilo and baas, our only real need is RT, and both of the elite guys will be gone by the time we pick...

Oh I don't know maybe because he's one of the best playmakers in the draft. Offensive playmakers to boot. Have you not watched our offense?

I'd way rather have Spillers if he's available.

The problem with all of this Iupati love is that McCloughan doesn't seem to value guards the same way he values tackles (in terms of picks and dollars). I can see him drafting a guard in the 2nd (he's done that twice already with Baas and Rachal) or possibly the 3rd-4th, along with tendering Baas who will likely be a relatively inexpensive RFA (due to the absence of the CBA).

But using a 1st rounder on a guard...I don't see it happening.

I also don't see us signing either Peppers or Merriman...not that I don't want it to happen, but if they do sign a veteran DE/OLB, it will likely be a cheaper signing like Wally Ogunleye or Chike Okeafor. Someone they can bring in as a pass rush specialist while they continue to develop Haralson/Manny/Brooks. Again, not that I agree with this approach, but I think that's the direction they'll go in rather than spend big dollars on a "name."