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Mcshay mock draft

11. 49ers: Sergio Kindle OLB-Texas
12. 49ers: Joe Haden CB-Florida

Players still on the board when the niners pick.

Bryan Bulaga OT
Earl Thomas S
Rolando McClain ILB
CJ Spiller RB
Dez Bryant WR

Players to note not projected for the first round.

Jerry Hughes TCU
Brandon Graham Mich
Mike Iupati Idaho


If the draft ended up like this...I would probably take Joe Haden with our first pick and try to trade down for some extra picks to pick up someone like Mike Iupati or CJ Spiller. Personally, I would rather have Hughes or Graham instead of Kindle. There is no doubt that we need OL help but I don't want to reach. If there isn't a player on the board that is good value for us at that pick, We at least need to try to trade down. imo

[ Edited by drake49er on Dec 14, 2009 at 08:23:37 ]
Kindle's tricky to project....prototypical pass rushing 3-4 OLB, crazy skills and very good speed, but his lack of production is worrying. I see him going somewhere in the late 1st round, not top 10-15.
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Originally posted by GoFD74:
Kindle's tricky to project....prototypical pass rushing 3-4 OLB, crazy skills and very good speed, but his lack of production is worrying. I see him going somewhere in the late 1st round, not top 10-15.

I thought the same thing, then I looked at the numbers of everyone around him (OK it was pointed out during some UT related media). He commands a double team pretty much every time which allows guys like Acho, a lesser player, to put up numbers. His stock will be directly tied to the combine, difference between top 15 or bottom of the first.
Dump Kindle add Spiller
Originally posted by TX9R:
Originally posted by GoFD74:
Kindle's tricky to project....prototypical pass rushing 3-4 OLB, crazy skills and very good speed, but his lack of production is worrying. I see him going somewhere in the late 1st round, not top 10-15.

I thought the same thing, then I looked at the numbers of everyone around him (OK it was pointed out during some UT related media). He commands a double team pretty much every time which allows guys like Acho, a lesser player, to put up numbers. His stock will be directly tied to the combine, difference between top 15 or bottom of the first.

He'll have a great combine, both during the drills and in the interviews (real good kid), and the tape will show him going 110% all the time and also a large number of QB "hurries." Still, the lack of big-time numbers in his senior season (sacks, TFL and even tackles) will cause some to worry about his ability to produce at the next level. That should keep him out of the top-half of the first round.

[ Edited by GoFD74 on Dec 14, 2009 at 09:26:14 ]
Can we get the full mock posted
Originally posted by jreff22:
Can we get the full mock posted

are we allowed to post it since it's from a paid part of espn i forget these rules
Originally posted by lamontb:
Originally posted by jreff22:
Can we get the full mock posted

are we allowed to post it since it's from a paid part of espn i forget these rules

Not sure...you may need to add the link to keep the mods at bay.
Originally posted by jreff22:
Dump Kindle add Spiller

Yes!
hope it doesn't get deleted but here you go

http://insider.espn.go.com/nfl/draft10/insider/news/story?id=4730972

St. Louis Rams
Record: 1-12
Jake Locker*, QB, Washington

Locker is rumored to be leaning toward returning to school, where he could further develop under head coach Steve Sarkisian. If he does decide to forgo his senior year and enter the draft, the Rams need to consider making Locker -- an injury-prone but supremely talented prospect -- their franchise quarterback.

Tampa Bay Buccaneers
Record: 1-12
Ndamukong Suh, DT, Nebraska

Anyone who saw the Big 12 championship game knows what kind of an impact the explosive Suh can have. He is a disruptive run defender with arm strength to toss blockers aside and quickness to make plays behind the line of scrimmage. Though he isn't the most polished pass-rusher, he clearly has great potential in that area.

Cleveland Browns
Record: 2-11
Eric Berry*, S, Tennessee

Berry might fall a bit because of the position he plays, but we believe he's the premier prospect in the 2010 class. Much like Ed Reed (Ravens), Berry is a game-changer with exceptional versatility to make plays in coverage and be effective in run support.

Detroit Lions
Record: 2-11
Gerald McCoy*, DT, Oklahoma

The Lions are in dire need of a difference-maker along the defensive front, and McCoy is the prototypical 3-technique with the quick first step and power to make a living in opposing backfields.

Kansas City Chiefs
Record: 3-10
Russell Okung, OT, Oklahoma State

Help up front might be Kansas City's greatest need. LOT Branden Albert -- a first-round pick in 2008 -- has had problems staying healthy, and he could slide to the right side or even inside to guard if the Chiefs land a franchise left tackle. Okung is the most complete offensive tackle prospect in this class and could provide that piece of the puzzle for Kansas City.

Washington Redskins
Record: 4-9
Sam Bradford*, QB, Oklahoma

Surgery on his throwing shoulder and concerns about the scheme he played in at Oklahoma caused Bradford to fall behind Locker on our board. On the other hand, Bradford has the physical tools and football IQ to quickly develop into an effective starting NFL quarterback.

Oakland Raiders
Record: 4-9
Derrick Morgan*, DE, Georgia Tech

Morgan can anchor at the point of attack, make plays in pursuit, get to the quarterback coming off the edge and drop into coverage on zone blitzes. In other words, he can do it all as far as defensive end prospects are concerned.

Buffalo Bills
Record: 5-8
Trent Williams, OT, Oklahoma

Williams moved from the right to the left side this year, and hasn't fared as well as in previous seasons but is capable of quickly developing into an effective NFL starting right tackle. He is a tough run blocker who drives his feet once in position, and he can hold his own in pass protection when his footwork is sound.

Seattle Seahawks
Record: 5-8
Anthony Davis*, OT, Rutgers

Davis comes with a bit of baggage, but there isn't an offensive lineman in the 2010 class with a better combination of size and agility.

Denver Broncos (from 5-8 Chicago)
Record: 8-5
Carlos Dunlap*, DE, Florida

Dunlap is very much a buyer-beware prospect. On one hand, a DUI arrest the week of the SEC championship game and questions about his work ethic raise red flags. On the other hand, 290-pound defensive linemen who move as well as he does are few and far

San Francisco 49ers (from 5-8 Carolina)
Record: 5-7
Sergio Kindle, DE/OLB, Texas

San Francisco could reach for Maryland OT Bruce Campbell, but in our opinion Kindle is too good a value to pass up here. Though he has to improve his ability to anchor against the run, he has the burst and agility base 3-4 defenses covet at outside linebacker.

San Francisco 49ers
Record: 5-7
Joe Haden*, CB, Florida

San Francisco's pass defense has been a liability this year, and the 49ers need to inject some youth and talent into their cornerback unit. Haden is the best cover corner in his class, has the burst to stalk receivers underneath and shows the speed to run with them downfield.

Pittsburgh Steelers
Record: 6-7
Bryan Bulaga*, OT, Iowa

Bulaga plays a bit high and his footwork could be better, so he would be a bit of a reach here, but Pittsburgh needs help at tackle and he's the best available.

Houston Texans
Record: 6-7
Earl Thomas**, S, Texas

Like Berry, there isn't much Thomas can't do on a football field. He can match up with slot receivers, blitz off the edge, has great range in coverage and steps up in run support.

Tennessee Titans
Record: 6-7
Rolando McClain*, ILB, Alabama

Tennessee has greater needs to fill, but the Titans would be lucky to land McClain here. He's a tough, relentless run stopper who masks his lack of ideal range with instincts and good angles. He's not a two-down linebacker, either, and can more than hold his own in underneath coverage.

Atlanta Falcons
Record: 6-7
Navorro Bowman*, OLB, Penn State

The Falcons need an impact player at cornerback, but the next-best corner, Florida State's Patrick Robinson, is not worth taking this early. Bowman has some off-the-field baggage but he might be the best all-around athlete at linebacker in this year's class.

Baltimore Ravens
Record: 7-6
Dez Bryant*, WR, Oklahoma State

Baltimore needs to give 2008 first-round pick and franchise QB Joe Flacco a playmaker at receiver. Bryant was ruled ineligible by the NCAA earlier this season, but teams have seen more than enough to know he can stretch the field.

Jacksonville Jaguars
Record: 7-6
Bruce Carter*, OLB, North Carolina

Jacksonville could upgrade at outside linebacker and Carter would be an excellent value here. He would benefit from adding some bulk to his frame but he's a rangy run stopper and he shows above-average ball skills in coverage.

New York Giants
Record: 7-6
Brandon Spikes*, ILB, Florida

Antonio Pierce sustained a season-ending neck injury and has just one year left on his contract, so Spikes would be a good fit as a future replacement. While injuries slowed Spikes this year, he is an instinctive run stopper who can make plays all over the field when he's healthy. He's also flashed big-play ability in coverage.

New York Jets
Record: 7-6
Bruce Campbell*, OT, Maryland

Campbell is a work in progress and could benefit from another year in college, but he's shooting up draft boards after a strong 2009 season and may be too talented to pass up for a Jets organization that needs help at tackle.

Miami Dolphins
Record:7-6
Jason Pierre-Paul*, DE, South Florida

Pierre-Paul wreaks havoc off the edge, and an aging Dolphins defense needs a young pass rusher to develop.

Dallas Cowboys
Record: 8-5
Taylor Mays, S, USC

We've seen Mays get caught out of position far too often to move him ahead of Berry or Thomas. However, it's rare to find defensive backs with Mays' size/speed combination, and he would be an upgrade for the Cowboys.

New England Patriots
Record: 8-5
Ricky Sapp, DE/OLB, Clemson

New England desperately needs to improve its pedestrian pass rush and Sapp has the burst to provide that much-needed spark. He has lined up primarily at end in college but has shown he can be effective working out of a two-point stance and would be a good fit for the Patriots' base 3-4 defense.

Seattle Seahawks (from 8-5 Denver)
Record: 5-8
Jimmy Clausen*, QB, Notre Dame

Current starter Matt Hasselbeck is 34 years old and backup Seneca Wallace doesn't appear to be the long-term answer. There are concerns about Clausen's release and he doesn't have ideal arm strength, but his mobility and accuracy underneath would make him a good fit for a West Coast offense.

Arizona Cardinals
Record: 8-4
Jermaine Gresham, TE, Oklahoma

Gresham missed the entire 2009 season with a knee injury, and he doesn't offer much as a run blocker. However, our film evaluation makes it clear that he has what it to takes to develop into one of the most productive and dangerous receiving tight ends in the league.

Green Bay Packers
Record: 9-4
C.J. Spiller, RB, Clemson

In this scenario, Spiller slides down the board and Green Bay wins the lottery. Spiller would add a big-play element to the running game and his ability to motion out into the slot makes him an excellent fit for the Packers' pass-heavy scheme.

Cincinnati Bengals
Record: 9-4
Marvin Austin*, DT, North Carolina

Cincinnati leads the league in rushing defense but having quality depth and talent at defensive tackle is essential to stay on top of the AFC North, so adding Austin makes sense. He's a stout interior run defender and powerful bull rusher.

Philadelphia Eagles
Record: 9-4
Vladimir Ducasse, OT, Massachusetts

Ducasse is 330 pounds and his feet may not be quick enough to hold up at left tackle, where he played at UMass, but he still moves well for his size and we think he could develop into a starting right tackle. If he doesn't pan out at tackle he has the makings of an excellent guard.

San Diego Chargers
Record: 10-3
Jonathan Dwyer*, RB, Georgia Tech

Darren Sproles is an excellent change-of-pace back but he's too small to be the primary ball carrier, and 30-year-old LaDainian Tomlinson hasn't looked the same the past two years. Taking Dwyer here would give the Chargers a physical between-the-tackles runner capable of carrying the ball 20-plus times and setting up the play-action package.

Minnesota Vikings
Record: 11-2
Brian Price*, DT, UCLA

Price is said to be leaning toward entering the upcoming draft. He's a quick and powerful defender who could provide some much-needed depth behind aging starters Kevin Williams and Pat Williams.

Indianapolis Colts
Record: 13-0
Jared Odrick, DT, Penn State

Odrick doesn't have great athletic ability but he's quick, flashes the ability to shed blocks quickly and plays with a nonstop motor, making him a good fit for an Indianapolis organization looking to upgrade its run defense.

New Orleans Saints
Record: 13-0
Dan Williams, DT, Tennessee

Williams is a reach here, but like Indianapolis, the Saints should be looking to upgrade their run defense, and adding the 311-pound Williams would be a step in the right direction.
Only 1 WR in the first.......
Originally posted by jreff22:
Only 1 WR in the first.......

its not a esp. strong year for top flight wrs
Originally posted by drake49er:
11. 49ers: Sergio Kindle OLB-Texas
12. 49ers: Joe Haden CB-Florida

Players still on the board when the niners pick.

Bryan Bulaga OT
Earl Thomas S
Rolando McClain ILB
CJ Spiller RB
Dez Bryant WR

Players to note not projected for the first round.

Jerry Hughes TCU
Brandon Graham Mich
Mike Iupati Idaho


If the draft ended up like this...I would probably take Joe Haden with our first pick and try to trade down for some extra picks to pick up someone like Mike Iupati or CJ Spiller. Personally, I would rather have Hughes or Graham instead of Kindle. There is no doubt that we need OL help but I don't want to reach. If there isn't a player on the board that is good value for us at that pick, We at least need to try to trade down. imo

You are 100% right on. If we knew the draft would unfold that way then Haden should be our first pick and then trade down for extra picks. I wouldnt take the OLB in round 1 as there are simply too many guys that are close in talent and will be available in rd 2.
Originally posted by dhp318:
Originally posted by jreff22:
Only 1 WR in the first.......

its not a esp. strong year for top flight wrs

There is 1st round talent at WR besides Bryant.
No OL???