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Rate our 2009 Draft.

Rate our 2009 Draft.

Originally posted by 4JusticeNow:
We've desperately needed a middle-clogging DT/NT for the last 5 years, an edge pass rushing stud, and a safety that can run from point A to point B without falling down.

Round 1: we pick a wide receiver. Doesn't solve our problems.

We STILL need a DT/NT, Safety, and pass rushing DE/OLB

Round 3: We pick a RB?

We STILL need a DT/NT, Safety, and pass rushing DE/OLB

Round 5: We pick an ILB? It's probably already the strength of our D

We STILL need a DT/NT, Safety, and pass rushing DE/OLB.

Round 5: We draft a QB, ok why night gamble and see if we get a Brady, but our biggest need is STILL need a DT/NT, Safety, and pass rushing DE/OLB

Round 6: We pick a TE? Didn't we just use our OVERALL # 6 pick in the draft on a TE?

We STILL need a DT/NT, Safety, and pass rushing DE/OLB

Round 7: Finally a DT and a safety, still no pass rush and we play in a passing division...not very bright are we?

Grade: C if Crabtree turns into a Pro Bowler, C- if he doesn't. It doesn't matter if we score an extra 2-3 points on average a game if we're still going give up 24 every game.

? WTF We didnt NEED anything on the defensive side of the ball. We had the 13TH RANKED DEFENSE!!!

Some people amaze me.
TAKE INTO ACCOUNT THAT WE MANAGED TO GET A 1ST NEXT YEAR FROM CAROLINA WHICH COULD BE MID 1ST ROUND OR HIGHER.

If you take that into account I'd say A- depending on how high that Panthers pick is next year.

Edit: Forgot to mentioned we signed Sheets and Boone who could both make the roster.
[ Edited by Gore_21 on Apr 26, 2009 at 10:56 PM ]
Originally posted by ttime1:
Originally posted by endz0ne:
1. Crabtree: one of the best picks the Niners have made in years! A Patrick Willis for the offense.

Grade A.

2. Trade for an extra first next year.

Grade TBD, though we could have gotten Sebastian Vollmer for that pick. The Pats took him at number 58.

3. Coffee: Got his yards because of 'Bama's o-line. Not fast, not big, and he's a fumbler. Has "Thomas Clayton's Replacement" written all over him.

Grade C.

5. McKillop: To replace Ulbrich as Spike's backup. ASWG.

Grade C.

5. Davis: A fixture for the practice squad. Best hope is for some other team to lose two or three QB's to injury and sign him off our practice squad. Million to one, that!

Grade D. (I mean, if you can't beat out Damon Huard...)

6. Pascoe: To replace Bajema. Will fill the same need just fine and see the field just as little.

Grade C. (Because he's not going to see the field that much)

7. Taylor: "...inconsistent play allowed younger players to earn playing time late in the season." So maybe he makes the team, but probably not.

Grade C. (...but only because it was a seventh round pick and I'm a dyed in the wool homer)

7. Jean-Francois: Another piece of fodder at DE.

Grade Meh.

So, we drafted replacements (notice I do not use the word, "upgrades") for backup players who have either left or been tossed overboard (Bajema, Foster), and other replacements for the aging or unproductive players we hope to toss overboard (Ulbrich, Roman). And an underachiever (in college!) for the D-line. Oh, and we also got a project QB who can't spell, "QB".

Sweet.

I'm ok with the extra pick and excited about Crabtree.

Got to give it the same split grade others have suggested:

Day One A
Day Two C

You actually took time to write all of this? I would say that your assessment deserves uhm...a D for effort as your conclusions are quite unfounded.

Oh, I don't know, you founded them. And which do you disagree with, and why? The Nate Davis to the practice squad prediction? Or the Crabtree to the endzOne prediction?

Just sayin'...
I say B, but when you add in the UDFA's i now say B+....
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If the players end up being good in their career as a 49er, I give this draft an A.

If the players end up sucking, I give this draft an F.
Originally posted by Ether:
If the players end up being good in their career as a 49er, I give this draft an A.

If the players end up sucking, I give this draft an F.

So, you're sitting on this?

B-
I like all of the players.... no major reaches. Except I'm not sure about Coffee, I think Coffee would have been available in the 4th ......oh wait, we dumped our 4th.

Positives:
All players seem solid, good players with some upside.

Negatives: I would have given it an 'A' if:

* Done a better job with the trade of our high 1st and 4th picks....... we could have done either of these options:
1. Made a more fair trade by just giving up our 2nd (#43) but keeping our 4th (which is typically fair value), or
2. drafted Conner Barwin at #43, (who had the best speed and jump and attitude of any of the OLB prospects)

* Had we kept our 4th, we likely could have drafted Coffee in the 4th (we'll never know, but the RB's were not 'flying off the board'). Or we could have drafted Sidbury in the 4th.

* With our 3rd, I think we could have done better, I would have tried to trade up 5-6 spots for Michael Johnson
You know.. I don't really post that much on this forum but I like reading what some of my fellow niner fans think of our team and future.. The thing that pisses me off is how stupid and retarded some of you fans are.. Some of you guys really think you would make a good gm in real life and act like this is Madden..

Im tired of hearing most of the fans bashing McCloughan and calling him names like McClueless or whatever.. I think it's pretty funny actually.. You guys sit there and cry and moan about how we never make "sexy picks" or how stupid our front office is and doesn't evaluate talent right.. The fact of the matter is you guys are all wrong. In my opinion, along with others, I feel like we had the best draft this weekend and our future looks bright.

We got an instant playmaker in Crabtree.. Say what you want about the guy but no doubt he is arguably one of the best that has come out of his position in years..He is going to be great here.

We also got a guy by the name of Glen Coffee whos I feel will compliment Gore very well.. There sort of the same in terms of what kind of running backs they are but he is very talented. I've seen many of his games and believe he will be a great number 2 behind Gore.

The only pick I really didn't agree with was Scott McKillop because I felt that our Linebackers are the strongest point on our team.. We are pretty deep there but hey you never know; the niners probably seen something we didn't about the guy..

Our next 4 picks were excellent!!! I don't know too much about Pascoe but how can some of you complain? We got Nate Davis! (Who started all 4 years btw) .. We can let him sit for a a couple years and let him learn while we see how the Alex Smith project turns out. Who knows, maybe we will see a Davis to Crabtree duo in the future you never know.

Also - Curtis Taylor was a great pick for the value that was on the board.. This guy would have been a day 1 pick last year if he came out.. And then right after we got his boy Jean-Francois (who was rated in the top 100 this year) ... We haven't had a draft like this for a while..
Oh and let's not forget- We got 2 first rounders for next year!!! WOW!!!

My point is we need to give credit when credit is due. Stop bashing McCloughan.. He did great this weekend!!! None of you guys are GMs so stop acting like it. I'm tired of reading useless posts on this forum.. Stop hating on your team.. We should be loving life right now compared to the raider fans lol .. So please.. Stop with the hate on McCloughin
I still have no idea how Ricky Jean-Francois fell to the late 7th round. RFJ could've easily been a 1st/2nd rounder next year had he stayed in school....incredible value for someone with his size/skills.
Originally posted by Bluefalcon61:
D+/C-

I am flabbergasted. Did anybody predict that we could go through this entire draft without drafting a single O-lineman or pass rusher? (with a 7th round pick to go)

We're all backtracking now that this is/ was a weak draft overall, but at no point was the timing there or BPA there who happened to be an O-lineman or pass rusher?

I thought that the consensus was we needed help at the anchors and edges?

What the hell?


I desired we would address these things but I did predict it. How many times have we said we need a passrusher. How many times have we stood pat.

Manny Lawson may turn into one amazing pass rusher but as far as I'm concerned 5 years without finding a fix for our biggest weakness is too long.
Originally posted by PrimeTime:
You know.. I don't really post that much on this forum but I like reading what some of my fellow niner fans think of our team and future.. The thing that pisses me off is how stupid and retarded some of you fans are.. Some of you guys really think you would make a good gm in real life and act like this is Madden..

Im tired of hearing most of the fans bashing McCloughan and calling him names like McClueless or whatever.. I think it's pretty funny actually.. You guys sit there and cry and moan about how we never make "sexy picks" or how stupid our front office is and doesn't evaluate talent right.. The fact of the matter is you guys are all wrong. In my opinion, along with others, I feel like we had the best draft this weekend and our future looks bright.

We got an instant playmaker in Crabtree.. Say what you want about the guy but no doubt he is arguably one of the best that has come out of his position in years..He is going to be great here.

We also got a guy by the name of Glen Coffee whos I feel will compliment Gore very well.. There sort of the same in terms of what kind of running backs they are but he is very talented. I've seen many of his games and believe he will be a great number 2 behind Gore.

The only pick I really didn't agree with was Scott McKillop because I felt that our Linebackers are the strongest point on our team.. We are pretty deep there but hey you never know; the niners probably seen something we didn't about the guy..

Our next 4 picks were excellent!!! I don't know too much about Pascoe but how can some of you complain? We got Nate Davis! (Who started all 4 years btw) .. We can let him sit for a a couple years and let him learn while we see how the Alex Smith project turns out. Who knows, maybe we will see a Davis to Crabtree duo in the future you never know.

Also - Curtis Taylor was a great pick for the value that was on the board.. This guy would have been a day 1 pick last year if he came out.. And then right after we got his boy Jean-Francois (who was rated in the top 100 this year) ... We haven't had a draft like this for a while..
Oh and let's not forget- We got 2 first rounders for next year!!! WOW!!!

My point is we need to give credit when credit is due. Stop bashing McCloughan.. He did great this weekend!!! None of you guys are GMs so stop acting like it. I'm tired of reading useless posts on this forum.. Stop hating on your team.. We should be loving life right now compared to the raider fans lol .. So please.. Stop with the hate on McCloughin

Very well put. But you haven't said anything the "realists" haven't heard from us koolaid drinkers. The realists dont care because they WANT to b***h and whine. Basically, alot of people can't function without b***hing and whining. That is how most of them live their lives even outside the topic of football. It's one of the good reasons why weed should be legalized.
[ Edited by kronik on Apr 27, 2009 at 12:37 AM ]
dont forget to mention that we added a 1st rounder for next year
Originally posted by Gore_21:
TAKE INTO ACCOUNT THAT WE MANAGED TO GET A 1ST NEXT YEAR FROM CAROLINA WHICH COULD BE MID 1ST ROUND OR HIGHER.

If you take that into account I'd say A- depending on how high that Panthers pick is next year.

Edit: Forgot to mentioned we signed Sheets and Boone who could both make the roster.

A-

Agreed. The late LSU picks help round out the depth upfront and in the secondary.

My only concern was Coffee over Sidbury. We'll see how it all plays out though. I'm a glass half-full type, so I'm anxiously hoping for the best.
I give it a B+ I love the Crabtree pick and I like getting the RB at the number 3 pick. The trade was a very good deal for us down the line as next years draft is very strong and having two number ones is never a bad thing. I am hearing really good things about the LBer we picked as well and can see him playing one or two downs in running plays or short yard plays. all in all, how can you rate a draft that gets you a Crabtree a bad draft? Crabtree should have been long gone by pick number 4 or 5.
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Coupled with our UDFA, I give a solid B. I have no problem giving up a 2nd for a 1st next year in a much better draft class. getting Boone really helps, he could be very solid if he can put down the bottle. No risk as we did not draft him. Coffee was a reach, but I'm warming. He's basically the same as Gore size wise, but has low mileage, and doesn't fumble, couple him with Bear and we have an improved short yardage package immediately. Davis is good value to develop. RJF is great value and no risk. No need to mention Crabs, steal of the draft.
This team is being built right this time for the next QB to succeed. Build a good D, running game and have a playmaking WR, then go get your QB. Detroit will wish they had done this in 4 years when their QB is shot and they still have nothing around him. There's no sense getting a young QB if you're just going to get him killed - A Smith, The ones that have had success - Rothlisberger, Flacco, had a team in place and made it easy for the QB. Nate Davis could be that guy but he doesn't have to any time soon.