crzy's Basketball League Final Year (declare Keepers by Tuesday Oct 8) | Page 370

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Year 7. 2012-2013 League Name: A Festus Ezeli For the Rest of Us League HistoryYear 1: 2006-2007 League Name: Foyled Cheesecakes Champion: LA9erFan 2nd Place: crzy Year 2: 2007-2008 League Name: Magical Foyled Cheesecakes Champion: Beefn 2nd Place: jrg 3rd Place: Slick Year 3: 2008-2009 (Keeper League) League Name: Kobe How's My Ass Taste Champion: 49ersMyLife 2nd Place: crzy 3rd Place: jrg Year 4: 2009-2010 (Keeper League) League Name: Dancing with the Starburys Champion: LA9erFan 2nd Place: 49ersMyLife 3rd Place: Slick Last Place: jrg Year 5: 2010-2011 (Keeper League) League Name: Ekpe Udoh's Suit Champion: 49ersMyLife 2nd Place: TheSixthRing 3rd Place: Game Over Last Place: jrg Year 6: 2011-2012 (Keeper League) League Name: Drunk Dialing Dwight Champion: 49ersMyLife 2nd Place: beefn 3rd Place: AmpLee Trade Next Year jrg trades Jeff Teague, 6th round pick to 4ML for Andrew Bogut, 3rd round pick Keepers Game Over- Danny Granger, Marc Gasol, Al Horford ninerlifer- Deron Williams, Stephen Curry, Rudy Gay jrg- Dwight Howard, Josh Smith, Blake Griffin phiLthyphiL- Carmelo Anthony, Derrick Rose, David Lee StOnEy333- Kobe Bryant, Rajon Rondo, Greg Monroe Slick- Monta Ellis, Pau Gasol, Dirk Nowitzki TheSixthRing- LeBron James, LaMarcus Aldridge, James Harden crzy- Andrew Bynum, Kyrie Irving, DeMarcus Cousins LA9erFan- Dwyane Wade, Paul Millsap, Andre Iguodala AmpLee- Kevin Love, Serge Ibaka, John Wall beefn- Russell Westbrook, Ty Lawson, Brandon Jennings 49ersMyLife- Chris Paul, Kevin Durant, Al Jefferson Pre-Draft Trades 1) crzy trades Kobe Bryant, 44th pick, 53rd pick, crzy receives Kyrie Irving, 76th pick, 148th pick StOnEy333 trades Kyrie Irving, 56th pick, StOnEy333 receives Kobe Bryant, Greg Monroe, 93rd pick LA9erFan trades Andrew Bynum, Greg Monroe, 76th pick, 93rd pick, 148th pick, LA9erFan receives 44th pick, 53rd pick, 56th pick. 2) AmpLee trades Blake Griffin, 147th pick to jrg for the 63rd pick 3) StOnEy333 trades Marc Gasol, 152nd pick to Game Over for the 60th pick. Draft Trades 1) phiLthyphil trades 88th pick, 129th pick to crzy for the 92nd pick, 101st pick 2) TheSixthRing 91st pick, 102nd pick, 126th pick to 49ersMyLife for the 96th pick, 97th pick, 121st pick 2012-2013 Draft Order 4th Round 37) Game Over - Goran Dragic 38) ninerlifer - Anthony Davis 39) jrg - Ryan Anderson 40) phiLthyphil - Steve Nash 41) StOnEy333 - Paul Pierce 42) Slick - Mike Conley 43) TheSixthRing - Paul George 44) LA9erFan - Kyle Lowry (via crzy) 45) LA9erFan - Kevin Garnett 46) AmpLee - Nicolas Batum 47) beefn- Marcin Gortat 48) 49ersMyLife - Chris Bosh 5th Round 49) 49ersMyLife - Roy Hibbert 50) beefn- Ersan Ilyasova 51) AmpLee - Eric Gordon 52) LA9erFan - Joakim Noah 53) LA9erFan - Tony Parker (via crzy) 54) TheSixthRing - Joe Johnson 55) Slick - Gerald Wallace 56) LA9erFan - Tim Duncan (via StOnEy333) 57) phiLthyphil - Nene 58) jrg - Marcus Thornton 59) ninerlifer - Amar'e Stoudemire 60) StOnEy333 - Tyreke Evans (via Game Over) 6th Round 61) Game Over - Arron Afflalo 62) ninerlifer - Kevin Martin 63) AmpLee - Danilo Gallinari (via jrg) 64) phiLthyphil - Javale McGee 65) StOnEy333 - Kris Humphries 66) Slick - Tyson Chandler 67) TheSixthRing - Zach Randolph 68) crzy - Andrew Bogut 69) LA9erFan - Damian Lillard 70) AmpLee - Kenneth Faried 71) beefn- Wesley Matthews 72) 49ersMyLife - Andrea Bargnani 7th Round 73) 49ersMyLife - Ricky Rubio 74) beefn- Carlos Boozer 75) AmpLee - Jrue Holiday 76) crzy - Michael Kidd-Gilchrist (via LA9erFan) 77) crzy - Klay Thompson 78) TheSixthRing - Mo Williams 79) Slick - David West 80) StOnEy333 - Luis Scola 81) phiLthyphil - Luol Deng 82) jrg - Jameer Nelson 83) ninerlifer - Anderson Varejao 84) Game Over - Jeremy Lin 8th Round 85) Game Over - O.J. Mayo 86) ninerlifer - DeAndre Jordan 87) jrg - Jeff Teague 88) crzy - Evan Turner (via phiLthyphil) 89) StOnEy333 - Darren Collison 90) Slick - Brook Lopez 91) 49ersMyLife - Derrick Favors (via TheSixthRing) 92) phiLthyphil - Chris Kaman (via crzy) 93) StOnEy333 - Elton Brand (via LA9erFan) 94) AmpLee - Manu Ginobili 95) beefn- Kawhi Leonard 96) TheSixthRing - Glen Davis (via 49ersMyLife) 9th Round 97) TheSixthRing - Bismack Biyombo (via 49ersMyLife) 98) beefn- Nikola Pekovic 99) AmpLee - Raymond Felton 100) LA9erFan - Rodney Stuckey 101) phiLthyphil - Lou Williams (via crzy) 102) 49ersMyLife - Omer Asik (via TheSixthRing) 103) Slick - Jason Terry 104) StOnEy333 - Trevor Ariza 105) phiLthyphil - George Hill 106) jrg - Isaiah Thomas 107) ninerlifer - Ray Allen 108) Game Over - Kemba Walker 10th Round 109) Game Over - Tristan Thompson 110) ninerlifer - DeMar Derozan 111) jrg - Thaddeus Young 112) phiLthyphil - Brandon Knight 113) StOnEy333 - Jose Calderon 114) Slick - Jared Dudley 115) TheSixthRing - Gordon Hayward 116) crzy - Jonas Valanciunas 117) LA9erFan - Bradley Beal 118) AmpLee - Michael Beasley 119) beefn- J.R. Smith 120) 49ersMyLife - Greivis Vasquez 11th Round 121) TheSixthRing - Mario Chalmers (via 49ersMyLife) 122) beefn- Samuel Dalembert 123) AmpLee - Andrei Kirilenko 124) LA9erFan - Jeff Green 125) crzy - J.J. Hickson 126) 49ersMyLife - Dion Waiters (via TheSixthRing) 127) Slick - Emeka Okafor 128) StOnEy333 - Spencer Hawes 129) crzy - Harrison Barnes (via phiLthyphil) 130) jrg - J.J. Redick 131) ninerlifer - Thomas Robinson 132) Game Over - Brandon Bass 12th Round 133) Game Over - Austin Rivers 134) ninerlifer - Tony Allen 135) jrg - Nick Young 136) phiLthyphil - Steve Novak 137) StOnEy333 - Andre Miller 138) Slick - Jamal Crawford 139) TheSixthRing - Shawn Marion 140) crzy - Hedo Turkoglu 141) LA9erFan - Metta World Peace 142) AmpLee - Gustavo Ayon 143) beefn- Luke Ridnour 144) 49ersMyLife - Chandler Parsons 13th Round 145) 49ersMyLife - Danny Green 146) beefn- Landry Fields 147) jrg - Drew Gooden (via AmpLee) 148) crzy - Ben Gordon (via LA9erFan) 149) crzy - Mike Dunleavy 150) TheSixthRing - Ekpe Udoh 151) Slick - J.J. Barea 152) Game Over - Jan Vesely (via StOnEy333) 153) phiLthyphil - Caron Butler 154) jrg - Chauncey Billups 155) ninerlifer - Ramon Sessions 156) Game Over - Nikola Vucevic Team Rosters Game Over G Goran Dragic G Arron Afflalo F Danny Granger F Al Horford C Marc Gasol Util Jeremy Lin Util O.J. Mayo Util Kemba Walker Bench Tristan Thompson Bench Brandon Bass Bench Austin Rivers Bench Jan Vesely Bench Nikola Vucevic ninerlifer G Deron Williams G Stephen Curry F Rudy Gay F Anthony Davis C Amar'e Stoudemire Util Kevin Martin Util Anderson Varejao Util DeAndre Jordan Bench Ray Allen Bench DeMar Derozan Bench Thomas Robinson Bench Tony Allen Bench Ramon Sessions jrg G Marcus Thornton G Jameer Nelson F Josh Smith F Blake Griffin C Dwight Howard Util Ryan Anderson Util Jeff Teague Util Isaiah Thomas Bench Thaddeus Young Bench J.J. Redick Bench Nick Young Bench Drew Gooden Bench Chauncey Billups phiLthyphil G Derrick Rose G Steve Nash F Carmelo Anthony F David Lee C Nene Util Javale McGee Util Luol Deng Util Chris Kaman Bench Lou Williams Bench George Hill Bench Brandon Knight Bench Steve Novak Bench Caron Butler StOnEy333 G Kobe Bryant G Rajon Rondo F Paul Pierce F Kris Humphries C Greg Monroe Util Tyreke Evans Util Luis Scola Util Darren Collison Bench Elton Brand Bench Trevor Ariza Bench Jose Calderon Bench Spencer Hawes Bench Andre Miller Slick G Monta Ellis G Mike Conley F Dirk Nowitzki F Gerald Wallace C Pau Gasol Util Tyson Chandler Util David West Util Brook Lopez Bench Jason Terry Bench Jared Dudley Bench Emeka Okafor Bench Jamal Crawford Bench J.J. Barea TheSixthRing G James Harden G Joe Johnson F LeBron James F Paul George C LaMarcus Aldridge Util Zach Randolph Util Mo Williams Util Glen Davis Bench Bismack Biyombo Bench Gordon Hayward Bench Mario Chalmers Bench Shawn Marion Bench Ekpe Udoh crzy G Kyrie Irving G Klay Thompson F Michael Kidd-Gilchrist F DeMarcus Cousins C Andrew Bynum Util Andrew Bogut Util Evan Turner Util Jonas Valanciunas Bench J.J. Hickson Bench Harrison Barnes Bench Hedo Turkoglu Bench Ben Gordon Bench Mike Dunleavy LA9erFan G Dwyane Wade G Andre Iguodala F Paul Millsap F Kevin Garnett C Joakim Noah Util Kyle Lowry Util Tony Parker Util Tim Duncan Bench Damian Lillard Bench Rodney Stuckey Bench Bradley Beal Bench Jeff Green Bench Metta World Peace AmpLee G John Wall G Eric Gordon F Nicolas Batum F Kevin Love C Serge Ibaka Util Danilo Gallinari Util Kenneth Faried Util Jrue Holiday Bench Manu Ginobili Bench Raymond Felton Bench Michael Beasley Bench Andrei Kirilenko Bench Gustavo Ayon beefn G Russell Westbrook G Ty Lawson F Ersan Ilyasova F Wesley Matthews C Marcin Gortat Util Brandon Jennings Util Carlos Boozer Util Kawhi Leonard Bench Nikola Pekovic Bench J.R. Smith Bench Samuel Dalembert Bench Luke Ridnour Bench Landry Fields 49ersMyLife G Chris Paul G Ricky Rubio F Kevin Durant F Chris Bosh C Al Jefferson Util Roy Hibbert Util Andrea Bargnani Util Derrick Favors Bench Omer Asik Bench Greivis Vasquez Bench Dion Waiters Bench Chandler Parsons Bench Danny Green

Sep 12, 2012 at 12:08 PM

#5536

LA9erFan
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Stoney, crzy, & I have agreed to a deal:

crzy trades: Kobe Bryant, #44, #53
crzy gets: Kyrie Irving, Andrew Bynum, #76

Stoney trades: Kyrie Irving, #59
Stoney gets: Kobe Bryant, Greg Monroe, #93

LA trades: Andrew Bynum, Greg Monroe, #76, #93
LA gets: #44, #53, #59

Sep 12, 2012 at 12:17 PM

#5537

4ML
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Originally posted by AmpLee:
I'm down. It might be tough convincing 4ML though,

...yea, I'm against this to say the least. This is not a revamp...it's a complete overhaul of the keeper rules. We're already facing enough issues employing these rules in the baseball league.

Sep 12, 2012 at 12:19 PM

#5538

4ML
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Originally posted by LA9erFan:
Stoney, crzy, & I have agreed to a deal:

crzy trades: Kobe Bryant, #44, #53
crzy gets: Kyrie Irving, Andrew Bynum, #76

Stoney trades: Kyrie Irving, #59
Stoney gets: Kobe Bryant, Greg Monroe, #93

LA trades: Andrew Bynum, Greg Monroe, #76, #93
LA gets: #44, #53, #59

Sep 12, 2012 at 12:30 PM

#5539

crzy
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Basically I trade my first two draft picks for a chance to improve my awful keepers.

I'm cool with this.

This is my reloading year after the craptastic team I had last year.

Sep 12, 2012 at 12:32 PM

#5540

crzy
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Originally posted by 49ersMyLife:

Originally posted by AmpLee:
I'm down. It might be tough convincing 4ML though,

...yea, I'm against this to say the least. This is not a revamp...it's a complete overhaul of the keeper rules. We're already facing enough issues employing these rules in the baseball league.

This is true. But it should be smoother here since we're familiar with the issues that could arise .

Sep 12, 2012 at 12:39 PM

#5541

LA9erFan
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While I support your idea, crzy, if there's any degree of resistance I think we should keep things the way that they are. I respect how 4ML built his team and I'm not trying to cockblock him. IMO, this needs to be supported by 9 or 10 of the owners for there to be a change in the keeper rules.

Sep 12, 2012 at 12:42 PM

#5542

4ML
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Originally posted by crzy:

Originally posted by 49ersMyLife:

Originally posted by AmpLee:
I'm down. It might be tough convincing 4ML though,

...yea, I'm against this to say the least. This is not a revamp...it's a complete overhaul of the keeper rules. We're already facing enough issues employing these rules in the baseball league.

This is true. But it should be smoother here since we're familiar with the issues that could arise .

...but those issues will always be there. Harden will cost 6th round pick this year, and then 3rd round pick next year - but if you've traded 3rd round pick then you've to give up 2nd round pick. It also makes trading the 1st round pick impossible, because you can not trade it to get a top player because to keep him you'll need to have the 1st round pick...etc. Trading for players and picks is such a mess and a nuisance. It's completely unnecessary.

Sep 12, 2012 at 12:44 PM

#5543

crzy
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Originally posted by 49ersMyLife:

Originally posted by crzy:

Originally posted by 49ersMyLife:

Originally posted by AmpLee:
I'm down. It might be tough convincing 4ML though,

...yea, I'm against this to say the least. This is not a revamp...it's a complete overhaul of the keeper rules. We're already facing enough issues employing these rules in the baseball league.

This is true. But it should be smoother here since we're familiar with the issues that could arise .

...but those issues will always be there. Harden will cost 6th round pick this year, and then 3rd round pick next year - but if you've traded 3rd round pick then you've to give up 2nd round pick. It also makes trading the 1st round pick impossible, because you can not trade it to get a top player because to keep him you'll need to have the 1st round pick...etc. Trading for players and picks is such a mess and a nuisance. It's completely unnecessary.

Fair enough. I just wanted there to be more of a rotation of keeper players, but you're right...it's more difficult to pull off.

Sep 12, 2012 at 12:46 PM

#5544

TheSixthRing
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This is what, our 7th year for this league? It seems like a big change for such a long, established league... on the other hand, a change like this could be refreshing, and would add to the depth of strategy.

I'm split on the issue.

[ Edited by TheSixthRing on Sep 12, 2012 at 12:47 PM ]

Sep 12, 2012 at 1:07 PM

#5545

ninerlifer
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I'm all for it...I say we do it now!

Sep 12, 2012 at 1:09 PM

#5546

GameOver
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We've been around for 7 years and have had 6 different owners reach the championship game with only 3 different owners ever winning it all.

Parody could be lacking...we need a hard cap and more aid to the smaller market teams.

Sep 12, 2012 at 1:15 PM

#5547

ninerlifer
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Originally posted by GameOver:
We've been around for 7 years and have had 6 different owners reach the championship game with only 3 different owners ever winning it all.

Parody could be lacking...we need a hard cap and more aid to the smaller market teams.

This...it's a bit Rediculous for the small market guys who have to trade away their only talent and more to get anything in return....the rich get richer in this league

Sep 12, 2012 at 1:16 PM

#5548

LA9erFan
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Originally posted by GameOver:
We've been around for 7 years and have had 6 different owners reach the championship game with only 3 different owners ever winning it all.

Parody could be lacking...we need a hard cap and more aid to the smaller market teams.

This.

Sep 12, 2012 at 1:35 PM

#5549

GameOver
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Originally posted by LA9erFan:

Originally posted by GameOver:
We've been around for 7 years and have had 6 different owners reach the championship game with only 3 different owners ever winning it all.

Parody could be lacking...we need a hard cap and more aid to the smaller market teams.

This.

I think it would suffice if for every win LA got by a margin greater than 5-4, that my team receives the additional points above that 5-4 threshold. So if he wins 7-2, then in reality, he won 5-2 and I would gain those 2 extra points in the standings. Every large market team will be attached to a small market team in the same way LA and my team will be. I think that would be one small step in the right direction. Commissioner, if you could give me your approval on this, we should start implementation as soon as possible. After-all, the season is on the horizon...

Sep 12, 2012 at 1:38 PM

#5550

LA9erFan
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Originally posted by GameOver:

Originally posted by LA9erFan:

Originally posted by GameOver:
We've been around for 7 years and have had 6 different owners reach the championship game with only 3 different owners ever winning it all.

Parody could be lacking...we need a hard cap and more aid to the smaller market teams.

This.

I think it would suffice if for every win LA got by a margin greater than 5-4, that my team receives the additional points above that 5-4 threshold. So if he wins 7-2, then in reality, he won 5-2 and I would gain those 2 extra points in the standings. Every large market team will be attached to a small market team in the same way LA and my team will be. I think that would be one small step in the right direction. Commissioner, if you could give me your approval on this, we should start implementation as soon as possible. After-all, the season is on the horizon...

Me?!??!? It's 4ML that's destroying us. He's the one that's won 2 1/2 championships in the last 4 years, not me.

[ Edited by LA9erFan on Sep 12, 2012 at 1:39 PM ]