**UFC/MMA Thread**

Originally posted by Kolohe:

Originally posted by NinerScout:
Anyone know if Penn's gonna get his wish and fight GSP?

I think he has one more fight in the 155 pound class, with the winner of the Huerta vs. Ken Flo fight.

I think Dana not going to wait. He mentioned BJ gets the winner of GSP and Fitch by the end of the yr. Also, UFC could be sanction in HAWAII by that time.

Originally posted by Kolohe:

Originally posted by NinerScout:
Anyone know if Penn's gonna get his wish and fight GSP?

I think he has one more fight in the 155 pound class, with the winner of the Huerta vs. Ken Flo fight.

the embedded vid on espn.com for "mma live" (it might still be there) the dude said that white's going to set up penn vs. GSP II if gsp wins his next fight.



http://sports.espn.go.com/broadband/video/videopage?videoId=3482333&categoryId=2881270

go to about 22 minutes left in the vid.

one side note from that video. Cote is believed to be up next for the middleweight title.

Originally posted by SybErkRimInAL:
Not to bash boxing cuz I'll still tune in anytime there's a fight but I was watching the Mora vs. Forrest fight the other day and just watching them stand there and throw punches seemed boring to me. In MMA, you can't just stand there and watch your opponents hands, you also have to watch for the kicks, the take downs followed by the submissions and positions your opponent can get it to nail you with some G&P. There are just so many dynamics that make MMA so much more interesting, IMO, than boxing. I can totally appreciate the footwork and hand speed of boxing but if I had to choose between watching pretty boy floyd fight delahoya and watching fedor battle randy coture, i'm watching fedor vs. randy.

You think the Mora/Forrest fight was boring? The Hopkins/Calzaghe fight was the down right terrible. WORST fight ive seen in god knows how long, especially with all the hype surrounding it. I would watch the Cote/Almeida fight as boring as that was over that anyday!.... Clutchin, grabbin and just straight up hugging is a hell of a lot more gay then 2 guys rollin on the ground tryin to break eachothers arms/legs and chokin eachother out..

I'll tune into boxing... but MMA is 10x more exciting to watch (ill give props to the lightweights/strawweigts/flyweights cuz they throw non-f**kin-stop). But MMA is a REAL fight. Pretty much anything goes and that tests peoples limits in so many ways... Boxing its, heres some gloves, throw and dodge punches. Sure it takes skill, but not even in the same class as MMA

It's fun to watch the heavyweights though. Wladimir Klitscho "Dr Steelhammer" is a machine.

I caught the last two rounds of the Mora fight.

Originally posted by fortyninerglory:
It's fun to watch the heavyweights though. Wladimir Klitscho "Dr Steelhammer" is a machine.

Didn't me and you have a MMA vs. Boxing debate a while back??

MMA >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Boxing all day!!!!

Originally posted by SybErkRimInAL:
I caught the last two rounds of the Mora fight.

That's what happens when you have absolutely no power .


Watch Holt Vs Torres.

That was a crazy fight.

too bad mma didn't start blowing up about 15-20 years ago..... when dennis alexio was in his prime. that would have been awesome.

Originally posted by Kolohe:

Originally posted by fortyninerglory:
It's fun to watch the heavyweights though. Wladimir Klitscho "Dr Steelhammer" is a machine.

Didn't me and you have a MMA vs. Boxing debate a while back??

MMA >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Boxing all day!!!!

Yeah :)

I still think Klitscho could out point most heavyweights in MMA though. He's so quick and agile and he has tremendous reach, he's like 6'7. He'd just need to work on his take down defense (incorporate some knees too) and learn how to kick back if the MMA fighter forces things with leg kicks. If he gets a flurry off on you--you're dead :)

He just defended his title against Tony Thompson a couple days ago. KO in the 11th round.

Originally posted by 49erfeeeever808:
too bad mma didn't start blowing up about 15-20 years ago..... when dennis alexio was in his prime. that would have been awesome.

Oh yeah forgot about "Kaheke".

Crocop vs. Alexio in K1. I wonder if they ever met?

Originally posted by fortyninerglory:

Originally posted by Kolohe:

Originally posted by fortyninerglory:
It's fun to watch the heavyweights though. Wladimir Klitscho "Dr Steelhammer" is a machine.

Didn't me and you have a MMA vs. Boxing debate a while back??

MMA >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Boxing all day!!!!

Yeah :)

I still think Klitscho could out point most heavyweights in MMA though. He's so quick and agile and he has tremendous reach, he's like 6'7. He'd just need to work on his take down defense (incorporate some knees too) and learn how to kick back if the MMA fighter forces things with leg kicks. If he gets a flurry off on you--you're dead :)

He just defended his title against Tony Thompson a couple days ago. KO in the 11th round.

that's the thing though when people say boxers could beat mma fighters. they can yeah, but most would need to know mma first... then they won't just be boxers.

a stand-up dominant mma fighter stands a better chance in the ring.

Klitchko is awesome though.

Originally posted by 49erfeeeever808:

Originally posted by fortyninerglory:

Originally posted by Kolohe:

Originally posted by fortyninerglory:
It's fun to watch the heavyweights though. Wladimir Klitscho "Dr Steelhammer" is a machine.

Didn't me and you have a MMA vs. Boxing debate a while back??

MMA >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Boxing all day!!!!

Yeah :)

I still think Klitscho could out point most heavyweights in MMA though. He's so quick and agile and he has tremendous reach, he's like 6'7. He'd just need to work on his take down defense (incorporate some knees too) and learn how to kick back if the MMA fighter forces things with leg kicks. If he gets a flurry off on you--you're dead :)

He just defended his title against Tony Thompson a couple days ago. KO in the 11th round.

that's the thing though when people say boxers could beat mma fighters. they can yeah, but most would need to know mma first... then they won't just be boxers.

a stand-up dominant mma fighter stands a better chance in the ring.

Klitchko is awesome though.

I know it can get a little confusing. But my thinking is if a match is set with a definite time period (6 weeks or something)--the boxer is still a boxer even if he has 6 weeks to train how to fight an MMA fighter. His boxing is still going to be the dominant part of his arsenal and vice versa. I don't think there's a way around this unless you have the boxer stick to boxing rules at all times.

Originally posted by fortyninerglory:

Originally posted by 49erfeeeever808:

Originally posted by fortyninerglory:

Originally posted by Kolohe:

Originally posted by fortyninerglory:
It's fun to watch the heavyweights though. Wladimir Klitscho "Dr Steelhammer" is a machine.

Didn't me and you have a MMA vs. Boxing debate a while back??

MMA >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Boxing all day!!!!

Yeah :)

I still think Klitscho could out point most heavyweights in MMA though. He's so quick and agile and he has tremendous reach, he's like 6'7. He'd just need to work on his take down defense (incorporate some knees too) and learn how to kick back if the MMA fighter forces things with leg kicks. If he gets a flurry off on you--you're dead :)

He just defended his title against Tony Thompson a couple days ago. KO in the 11th round.

that's the thing though when people say boxers could beat mma fighters. they can yeah, but most would need to know mma first... then they won't just be boxers.

a stand-up dominant mma fighter stands a better chance in the ring.

Klitchko is awesome though.

I know it can get a little confusing. But my thinking is if a match is set with a definite time period (6 weeks or something)--the boxer is still a boxer even if he has 6 weeks to train how to fight an MMA fighter. His boxing is still going to be the dominant part of his arsenal and vice versa. I don't think there's a way around this unless you have the boxer stick to boxing rules at all times.

oh yeah definately it's gonnabe his bread and butter. all i was saying is that you can't just go into the octogon and think you can just box and be effective.... i'm not point a finger at anyone, but that's my response to people saying any boxer would kick a MMA guy's a*s anyday. only way it would work would be to use an uppercut instead of a sprawl as takedown defense. but you miss that punch you're f*cked.

Originally posted by fortyninerglory:

Originally posted by 49erfeeeever808:
too bad mma didn't start blowing up about 15-20 years ago..... when dennis alexio was in his prime. that would have been awesome.

Oh yeah forgot about "Kaheke".

Crocop vs. Alexio in K1. I wonder if they ever met?

damn. i'd love to be there live for that one.

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