**UFC/MMA Thread**

I could see calling Jones out on turning down a fight if he were trying to work his way to the top, but he's on top. This is his livelihood. I don't blame him one bit for turning it down. If you really want him to fight Sonnen, schedule that s**t out so he can gameplan and train accordingly.

Originally posted by ChazBoner:
I could see calling Jones out on turning down a fight if he were trying to work his way to the top, but he's on top. This is his livelihood. I don't blame him one bit for turning it down. If you really want him to fight Sonnen, schedule that s**t out so he can gameplan and train accordingly.

I can see that side of it, too, but for a guy making it a point that he will never turn down an MMA fight (back in March or May), he certainly turned the cheek when the company needed him the most. Like I continually mentioned before, these fighters don't make much and I feel bad for the undercard fighters that have to pay for the camps only to NOT receive anything in return.

Originally posted by jimrat:
This is one of the best interviews I have ever watched, its from last year and they talk about Bas's career and the history of mma.

2 hours and 12 minutes?!?

Yeah.... uh, lol, didn't watch, lol.

Okay, watched the first hour.

Originally posted by SF69ers:

Originally posted by Kolohe:
Its stupid to hate on Jones turning down the fight of Sonnen.

Gotta disagree with you there, bud.

Why?? What has Sonnen do to earn a title fight, I could see if he beat Silva but he got owned!! Besides Jones despises Chael, why should he give him the benefit of the doubt, especially on a weeks notice. IMO, Jones did the right thing,Dana White just made him the scape goat. Its Dana Whites dumb ass who should be scrutinized, he should've made the co-main event the main even instead of canceling 151.

Originally posted by SF69ers:

Originally posted by ChazBoner:
I could see calling Jones out on turning down a fight if he were trying to work his way to the top, but he's on top. This is his livelihood. I don't blame him one bit for turning it down. If you really want him to fight Sonnen, schedule that s**t out so he can gameplan and train accordingly.

I can see that side of it, too, but for a guy making it a point that he will never turn down an MMA fight (back in March or May), he certainly turned the cheek when the company needed him the most. Like I continually mentioned before, these fighters don't make much and I feel bad for the undercard fighters that have to pay for the camps only to NOT receive anything in return.

Exactly why I said, Jones is being the scape goat, Dana could've made a new Main event, hes never cancelled a UFC even due to injury. And no Champion has ever took a fight on a weeks notice.

Originally posted by Kolohe:

Originally posted by SF69ers:

Originally posted by Kolohe:
Its stupid to hate on Jones turning down the fight of Sonnen.

Gotta disagree with you there, bud.

Why?? What has Sonnen do to earn a title fight, I could see if he beat Silva but he got owned!! Besides Jones despises Chael, why should he give him the benefit of the doubt, especially on a weeks notice. IMO, Jones did the right thing,Dana White just made him the scape goat. Its Dana Whites dumb ass who should be scrutinized, he should've made the co-main event the main even instead of canceling 151.

Have you seen the card, though? There's not one fight in that card that deserves to be a main event. IMO, Dana White has done a lot for the sport and for Jon Jones, too. He helped Jones develop and gave him the opportunity to fight for the belt. Don't you think Jones could have returned this favor to his bosses? If it would have helped him feel better, they could have made the fight a non-title fight, and he could have fought this grudge match against Sonnen.

MMA isn't boxing. They don't get paid bank. You're paid to fight. It's the Ultimate Fighting Championship, for goodness sake. A lot of fighters like Bisping, Franklin, Henderson, etc. have stepped up on short notice to take fights. And yes, ultimately not a championship fight, but they still step it up.

The only other solution I would have seen was to make the event free and not a ppv.

Rashad Evans on Jon Jones ~

"You want to always keep it right for the fighters. It's great for the fighters to have the right to choose a fight. That is one of the liberties we do have, the option to say yes or no to a fight. But then on the other hand, you have a tremendous responsibility as the champion. You are the champion of the UFC. Not only that, you became champion of the UFC through circumstances like this. You had the opportunity to fight for someone that was injured. He stepped into a fight, after I got hurt, so he stepped in for me to fight Shogun. So, he was rewarded by the very process of somebody stepping in to take a fight. So, he owed it to the UFC to take the fight. Not only that, he owed it to all the other fighters on this card who are going to be missing paydays because of that. And lets not talk about how the UFC has done so much to make him the face of the UFC. They sponsored him. Everything he's gotten is because of the UFC, the whole Nike endorsement and everything else like that, has all been because of the UFC. When he got in trouble a few months back, it was the UFC who stood behind him and kind of made it go away relatively quickly. So, for him to turn his back on the UFC is very hard to believe, for one, but it's just disappointing. I'm sure one day, when he has the time to understand the ramifications of his decision, he's is gonna think, 'Wow. What did I really do?'"

Originally posted by TheSixthRing:

Okay, watched the first hour.

lol @ Rashad. STFU

Originally posted by ChazBoner:
lol @ Rashad. STFU

Eh, he had a point about Jones winning the belt by stepping in for an injured fighter... though the time frame is considerably different (6 weeks vs. 1 week).

Originally posted by ChazBoner:
lol @ Rashad. STFU

He has a point, though.

The days of fighters like Dan Henderson, Chuck Liddell, Matt Hughes, Rich Franklin, etc. are disappearing and to be replaced with talented, young divas

Originally posted by SF69ers:

Originally posted by ChazBoner:
lol @ Rashad. STFU

He has a point, though.

The days of fighters like Dan Henderson, Chuck Liddell, Matt Hughes, Rich Franklin, etc. are disappearing and to be replaced with talented, young divas

Jones i agree has every right to say no. but i don't think the sacrifice he was asked to make was too much. sonnen's skill set isn't too much of a difference from Hendo. and i think most would still favor Jones over Sonnen with just a week prep. IMO, if he's gonna say he'll never turn down a fight, he better live up to it.

is it fair to completely blame Jones? no. i agree. the star power of recent PPV's seem to be more and more watered down lately. that has a lot to do with it also IMO.

is it time for the fighters to start a union?

Originally posted by 49erfeeeever808:

Originally posted by SF69ers:

Originally posted by ChazBoner:
lol @ Rashad. STFU

He has a point, though.

The days of fighters like Dan Henderson, Chuck Liddell, Matt Hughes, Rich Franklin, etc. are disappearing and to be replaced with talented, young divas

Jones i agree has every right to say no. but i don't think the sacrifice he was asked to make was too much. sonnen's skill set isn't too much of a difference from Hendo. and i think most would still favor Jones over Sonnen with just a week prep. IMO, if he's gonna say he'll never turn down a fight, he better live up to it.

is it fair to completely blame Jones? no. i agree. the star power of recent PPV's seem to be more and more watered down lately. that has a lot to do with it also IMO.

is it time for the fighters to start a union?

I honestly feel like that could potentially ruin the sport.

Originally posted by SF69ers:
I honestly feel like that could potentially ruin the sport.

possibly. i wouldn't doubt it.