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**UFC/MMA Thread**

  • Kolohe
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Originally posted by SF69ers:
Originally posted by Kolohe:
Originally posted by SF69ers:
Originally posted by fortyninerglory:
Going back to Lesnar.

Here's Crocop's recent comment:

"I must point out that his victory is a defeat for the sport as such," Cro Cop told index.hr (Translated by Fighters Only) of Lesnar's dominating performance. "Don't get me wrong, Lesnar is a fearsome and very dangerous opponent, but I am old school, I prefer skill and technique. This win was a defeat of martial skills."

This was posted on cnnsi.com and of course there was a lot of feedback and people were ridiculing Crocop like crazy.

One of the comments though, was hinting that Lesnar's just too big for the current HW division. It's like a 205 lb Rashad Evans fighting a 170 lb Matt Hughes. Lesnar probably was walking around at 280 on fight day vs. 250 for Mir. That's 30 lb weight difference. And that's why I was thinking Mir should have stepped on the scales at 265lb on weigh day to even the playing field a bit.

Do you guys think there should be a super heavyweight class (265+)?

Not enough big guys with the talent I guess.

Let's not forget that other fighters usually come into the fight heavier than their initial weigh-in weight.
GSP usually fights at around 180-185 and Thiago Alves even came into a fight at 190. Heavyweight division is a little more different since the weight difference is bigger than the other divisions. Tim Sylvia always came in at the weigh ins at the 265 limit but fought much heavier.

CroCop needs to give credit when it's due. He shouldn't talk since he hasn't dominated a fight in years.

I think that should be in the rule, a maximum of 5 pounds after the set weigh-in they should allow. Because what's the sense of a weight class if fighters are just gonna balloon up after the weigh-in, makes no sense at all. You see the 155 pound class, after the weigh-in at fight time rather, they don't seem to gain much or any weight at all. Fighters moving up in weight classes work their asses off to put on the extra weight and condition for it, while the fighter in the weight class puts on more weight than what the actual weight limit is....WTF.

I agree. As much as I like Thiago Alves, for example, I don't think it's fair that he comes in to fight Koshcheck at 190 lbs.

So welter weights are actually fighting light heavy weights??

Things that need fixing in the UFC:

1. Fight night weigh-ins

2. Ranking system
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Decided to go and watch some old UFC fights and came across Vitor Belfort vs. Chuck Liddell. Man, watching Chuck fight back then was like watching a totally different fighter. He was throwing leg kicks, body kicks, head kicks, spinning back kicks, spinning back fists, and I even saw a Superman punch. Dude was super aggressive in his prime.
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Originally posted by SF69ers:
Decided to go and watch some old UFC fights and came across Vitor Belfort vs. Chuck Liddell. Man, watching Chuck fight back then was like watching a totally different fighter. He was throwing leg kicks, body kicks, head kicks, spinning back kicks, spinning back fists, and I even saw a Superman punch. Dude was super aggressive in his prime.

Notice his belly was smaller back then??

The guy has just been leaving himself wide open, and since he doesn't have much of a ground game he has no choice but to stand and exchange.
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Originally posted by SF69ers:
Originally posted by Brew:
Originally posted by Kolohe:
Originally posted by SF69ers:
Anyone listen to the trash talking going on between Anderson Silva and Shogun Rua. Silva is upset that Shogun gets a title shot after two wins in the UFC while Machida had seven fights before finally getting a shot. Shogun responds and says that he respects all fighters and that his history in PRIDE may be a reason of why he gets a shot early. He also calls Silva a Parrot

I think Silva needs to be quiet here. When he came to the UFC, he fought Leben and suddenly got a title shot. So no need to be upset about Shogun getting a shot.

Yup. How soon they forget. Would love to see them fight though. What's up with Silva lately, hes been talking a lot of trash. He use to be humble and just beat people down, now it just seems like hes mad, is it because of what Dana White said about him??

It don't matter. Rua is gonna get assassinated by Machida. Rua is a douche who can only win if he fights people twice his age.

I guess the people he dominated in PRIDE doesn't count then

screw pride.
Originally posted by Brew:
Originally posted by SF69ers:
Originally posted by Brew:
Originally posted by Kolohe:
Originally posted by SF69ers:
Anyone listen to the trash talking going on between Anderson Silva and Shogun Rua. Silva is upset that Shogun gets a title shot after two wins in the UFC while Machida had seven fights before finally getting a shot. Shogun responds and says that he respects all fighters and that his history in PRIDE may be a reason of why he gets a shot early. He also calls Silva a Parrot

I think Silva needs to be quiet here. When he came to the UFC, he fought Leben and suddenly got a title shot. So no need to be upset about Shogun getting a shot.

Yup. How soon they forget. Would love to see them fight though. What's up with Silva lately, hes been talking a lot of trash. He use to be humble and just beat people down, now it just seems like hes mad, is it because of what Dana White said about him??

It don't matter. Rua is gonna get assassinated by Machida. Rua is a douche who can only win if he fights people twice his age.

I guess the people he dominated in PRIDE doesn't count then

screw pride.
pride only hurts.
If Rua fights like he did in Pride, he MIGHT have a shot. But I don't think he's the same fighter as he was then coughsteroidscough.
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Originally posted by SybErkRimInAL:
If Rua fights like he did in Pride, he MIGHT have a shot. But I don't think he's the same fighter as he was then coughsteroidscough.

werd. Machida by submission.
Originally posted by Kolohe:
Originally posted by SF69ers:
Decided to go and watch some old UFC fights and came across Vitor Belfort vs. Chuck Liddell. Man, watching Chuck fight back then was like watching a totally different fighter. He was throwing leg kicks, body kicks, head kicks, spinning back kicks, spinning back fists, and I even saw a Superman punch. Dude was super aggressive in his prime.

Notice his belly was smaller back then??

The guy has just been leaving himself wide open, and since he doesn't have much of a ground game he has no choice but to stand and exchange.

Belly was smaller and mohawk was darker brown. His takedown defense then wasn't that great as Vitor threw him down at will.
Originally posted by Brew:
Originally posted by SF69ers:
Originally posted by Brew:
Originally posted by Kolohe:
Originally posted by SF69ers:
Anyone listen to the trash talking going on between Anderson Silva and Shogun Rua. Silva is upset that Shogun gets a title shot after two wins in the UFC while Machida had seven fights before finally getting a shot. Shogun responds and says that he respects all fighters and that his history in PRIDE may be a reason of why he gets a shot early. He also calls Silva a Parrot

I think Silva needs to be quiet here. When he came to the UFC, he fought Leben and suddenly got a title shot. So no need to be upset about Shogun getting a shot.

Yup. How soon they forget. Would love to see them fight though. What's up with Silva lately, hes been talking a lot of trash. He use to be humble and just beat people down, now it just seems like hes mad, is it because of what Dana White said about him??

It don't matter. Rua is gonna get assassinated by Machida. Rua is a douche who can only win if he fights people twice his age.

I guess the people he dominated in PRIDE doesn't count then

screw pride.

LOL yea screw PRIDE where he defeated Alistair Overeem(twice), Rampage, Sakuraba, Randleman, Ricardo Arona, Little Nog, and Akihiro Gono.

Shogun was a beast then, and with his new training regiment and location, he's a lot more focused. Your new champ, ladies and gentlemen!

Originally posted by TonyStarks:
Originally posted by Brew:
Originally posted by SF69ers:
Originally posted by Brew:
Originally posted by Kolohe:
Originally posted by SF69ers:
Anyone listen to the trash talking going on between Anderson Silva and Shogun Rua. Silva is upset that Shogun gets a title shot after two wins in the UFC while Machida had seven fights before finally getting a shot. Shogun responds and says that he respects all fighters and that his history in PRIDE may be a reason of why he gets a shot early. He also calls Silva a Parrot

I think Silva needs to be quiet here. When he came to the UFC, he fought Leben and suddenly got a title shot. So no need to be upset about Shogun getting a shot.

Yup. How soon they forget. Would love to see them fight though. What's up with Silva lately, hes been talking a lot of trash. He use to be humble and just beat people down, now it just seems like hes mad, is it because of what Dana White said about him??

It don't matter. Rua is gonna get assassinated by Machida. Rua is a douche who can only win if he fights people twice his age.

I guess the people he dominated in PRIDE doesn't count then

screw pride.
pride only hurts.
In the fifth, yo ass goes down.
Originally posted by TonyStarks:
Originally posted by TonyStarks:
Originally posted by Brew:
Originally posted by SF69ers:
Originally posted by Brew:
Originally posted by Kolohe:
Originally posted by SF69ers:
Anyone listen to the trash talking going on between Anderson Silva and Shogun Rua. Silva is upset that Shogun gets a title shot after two wins in the UFC while Machida had seven fights before finally getting a shot. Shogun responds and says that he respects all fighters and that his history in PRIDE may be a reason of why he gets a shot early. He also calls Silva a Parrot

I think Silva needs to be quiet here. When he came to the UFC, he fought Leben and suddenly got a title shot. So no need to be upset about Shogun getting a shot.

Yup. How soon they forget. Would love to see them fight though. What's up with Silva lately, hes been talking a lot of trash. He use to be humble and just beat people down, now it just seems like hes mad, is it because of what Dana White said about him??

It don't matter. Rua is gonna get assassinated by Machida. Rua is a douche who can only win if he fights people twice his age.

I guess the people he dominated in PRIDE doesn't count then

screw pride.
pride only hurts.
In the fifth, yo ass goes down.

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Originally posted by SF69ers:
Originally posted by Brew:
Originally posted by SF69ers:
Originally posted by Brew:
Originally posted by Kolohe:
Originally posted by SF69ers:
Anyone listen to the trash talking going on between Anderson Silva and Shogun Rua. Silva is upset that Shogun gets a title shot after two wins in the UFC while Machida had seven fights before finally getting a shot. Shogun responds and says that he respects all fighters and that his history in PRIDE may be a reason of why he gets a shot early. He also calls Silva a Parrot

I think Silva needs to be quiet here. When he came to the UFC, he fought Leben and suddenly got a title shot. So no need to be upset about Shogun getting a shot.

Yup. How soon they forget. Would love to see them fight though. What's up with Silva lately, hes been talking a lot of trash. He use to be humble and just beat people down, now it just seems like hes mad, is it because of what Dana White said about him??

It don't matter. Rua is gonna get assassinated by Machida. Rua is a douche who can only win if he fights people twice his age.

I guess the people he dominated in PRIDE doesn't count then

screw pride.

LOL yea screw PRIDE where he defeated Alistair Overeem(twice), Rampage, Sakuraba, Randleman, Ricardo Arona, Little Nog, and Akihiro Gono.

Shogun was a beast then, and with his new training regiment and location, he's a lot more focused. Your new champ, ladies and gentlemen!


in yo dreams son.
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