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2026 San Francisco Giants Season Thread

Originally posted by SFGiant49ers:
Originally posted by CatchMaster80:
Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:
Originally posted by SFGiant49ers:
Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:
fat raffy starting to swing the stick, he still can't field or run at all and i'm sure he's a clubhouse cancer as we have bombed since he got here but i give credit where he is do, no jinx raffy keep on clubbing the ball

How exactly is he so terrible in the field? I've seen him make several really nice plays on defense this season. Also, didn't he win a gold glove at 3rd? I know different position, but I would say he's not nearly as bad in the field as you make him out to be.

yeah he's a gold glove winner, when you just make stuff up

how about showing me when that happened?
this is from the non human friend: No, Rafael Devers has never won a Gold Glove Award

also from the non humans, when asked if he's good, average or bad in the field:

Rafael Devers is statistically considered a bad fielder. [1]

While he occasionally flashes the arm strength or reflexes to make a highlight-reel play, advanced defensive metrics have consistently rated him well below league average throughout his career

I just looked up his fielding numbers and he didn't win a gold glove and he was a below average fielder at 3rd. I'd say he's been okay at first. Better than anyone else they have right now. I wish thet could have kept Dom Smith who was a great defensive first baseman and an under rated hitter. Dever's hitting can drive you crazy with the strikouts but when he hits he usually drives the ball and produces runs. HRs and lots of doubles. I din't blame him for the Giants record since he came here. The pitching has steadily gotten worse. Especially the bullpen. You can't blame him for that.

Alright, well I either heard or read somewhere that Devers had won a gold glove while with Boston. I don't remember exactly what I heard or read, but I know I didn't just randomly come up with that thought in my head out of nowhere.

Either way, he seems like he's a pretty decent fielder at 1st base to me. I don't really follow all the advanced metrics and statistics so maybe those don't show that he is elite or anything, but my eyes tell me he's a good fielder.

Whatever though, these guys fkn suck lol. This pitching is so embarrassing

He did start at 3rd base for a few years in Boston and he made some all star teams but that was because of his hitting. Maybe you got the all star team mixed up with the gold glove. I hope they have a good plan to rebuild this pitching staff. They don't appear to have much help coming from the minor leagues. That means trades and free agents.
Originally posted by CatchMaster80:
Originally posted by SFGiant49ers:
Originally posted by CatchMaster80:
Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:
Originally posted by SFGiant49ers:
Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:
fat raffy starting to swing the stick, he still can't field or run at all and i'm sure he's a clubhouse cancer as we have bombed since he got here but i give credit where he is do, no jinx raffy keep on clubbing the ball

How exactly is he so terrible in the field? I've seen him make several really nice plays on defense this season. Also, didn't he win a gold glove at 3rd? I know different position, but I would say he's not nearly as bad in the field as you make him out to be.

yeah he's a gold glove winner, when you just make stuff up

how about showing me when that happened?
this is from the non human friend: No, Rafael Devers has never won a Gold Glove Award

also from the non humans, when asked if he's good, average or bad in the field:

Rafael Devers is statistically considered a bad fielder. [1]

While he occasionally flashes the arm strength or reflexes to make a highlight-reel play, advanced defensive metrics have consistently rated him well below league average throughout his career

I just looked up his fielding numbers and he didn't win a gold glove and he was a below average fielder at 3rd. I'd say he's been okay at first. Better than anyone else they have right now. I wish thet could have kept Dom Smith who was a great defensive first baseman and an under rated hitter. Dever's hitting can drive you crazy with the strikouts but when he hits he usually drives the ball and produces runs. HRs and lots of doubles. I din't blame him for the Giants record since he came here. The pitching has steadily gotten worse. Especially the bullpen. You can't blame him for that.

Alright, well I either heard or read somewhere that Devers had won a gold glove while with Boston. I don't remember exactly what I heard or read, but I know I didn't just randomly come up with that thought in my head out of nowhere.

Either way, he seems like he's a pretty decent fielder at 1st base to me. I don't really follow all the advanced metrics and statistics so maybe those don't show that he is elite or anything, but my eyes tell me he's a good fielder.

Whatever though, these guys fkn suck lol. This pitching is so embarrassing

He did start at 3rd base for a few years in Boston and he made some all star teams but that was because of his hitting. Maybe you got the all star team mixed up with the gold glove. I hope they have a good plan to rebuild this pitching staff. They don't appear to have much help coming from the minor leagues. That means trades and free agents.

No it wasn't all star team that I was thinking of. I specifically heard or read from some kind of source (obviously not a reliable one) that he had won a gold glove at some point. Of course I can't remember specifically what it was that I read or heard though. I do remember being surprised when I heard it, and also wondering why people were questioning his ability to switch to 1st base, if he in fact had won a gold glove before at 3rd base.
Originally posted by SFGiant49ers:
Originally posted by CatchMaster80:
Originally posted by SFGiant49ers:
Originally posted by CatchMaster80:
Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:
Originally posted by SFGiant49ers:
Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:
fat raffy starting to swing the stick, he still can't field or run at all and i'm sure he's a clubhouse cancer as we have bombed since he got here but i give credit where he is do, no jinx raffy keep on clubbing the ball

How exactly is he so terrible in the field? I've seen him make several really nice plays on defense this season. Also, didn't he win a gold glove at 3rd? I know different position, but I would say he's not nearly as bad in the field as you make him out to be.

yeah he's a gold glove winner, when you just make stuff up

how about showing me when that happened?
this is from the non human friend: No, Rafael Devers has never won a Gold Glove Award

also from the non humans, when asked if he's good, average or bad in the field:

Rafael Devers is statistically considered a bad fielder. [1]

While he occasionally flashes the arm strength or reflexes to make a highlight-reel play, advanced defensive metrics have consistently rated him well below league average throughout his career

I just looked up his fielding numbers and he didn't win a gold glove and he was a below average fielder at 3rd. I'd say he's been okay at first. Better than anyone else they have right now. I wish thet could have kept Dom Smith who was a great defensive first baseman and an under rated hitter. Dever's hitting can drive you crazy with the strikouts but when he hits he usually drives the ball and produces runs. HRs and lots of doubles. I din't blame him for the Giants record since he came here. The pitching has steadily gotten worse. Especially the bullpen. You can't blame him for that.

Alright, well I either heard or read somewhere that Devers had won a gold glove while with Boston. I don't remember exactly what I heard or read, but I know I didn't just randomly come up with that thought in my head out of nowhere.

Either way, he seems like he's a pretty decent fielder at 1st base to me. I don't really follow all the advanced metrics and statistics so maybe those don't show that he is elite or anything, but my eyes tell me he's a good fielder.

Whatever though, these guys fkn suck lol. This pitching is so embarrassing

He did start at 3rd base for a few years in Boston and he made some all star teams but that was because of his hitting. Maybe you got the all star team mixed up with the gold glove. I hope they have a good plan to rebuild this pitching staff. They don't appear to have much help coming from the minor leagues. That means trades and free agents.

No it wasn't all star team that I was thinking of. I specifically heard or read from some kind of source (obviously not a reliable one) that he had won a gold glove at some point. Of course I can't remember specifically what it was that I read or heard though. I do remember being surprised when I heard it, and also wondering why people were questioning his ability to switch to 1st base, if he in fact had won a gold glove before at 3rd base.

I don't know where you heard the gold glove thing but the switch to first base became an issue in Boston when they replaced Devers at third. I believe they asked him to play 1st and he said he didn't want to. Who knows what actually happened. Anyway that was part of the reason they were willing to trade him. He obviously doesn't mind playing 1st in SF so I question that story. Sounds like he was just upset by getting replaced at 3rd.
Originally posted by CatchMaster80:
I don't know where you heard the gold glove thing but the switch to first base became an issue in Boston when they replaced Devers at third. I believe they asked him to play 1st and he said he didn't want to. Who knows what actually happened. Anyway that was part of the reason they were willing to trade him. He obviously doesn't mind playing 1st in SF so I question that story. Sounds like he was just upset by getting replaced at 3rd.

he's a big baby / manchild. that's why we saw him waiving off tony and flipping out during his fake apology. that's what he did in boston and same trash attitude here. predictable there were plenty of red flags, and we traded out kyle harrison and picked up this bananas contract anyway. one of the worst trades of all time. spending all this money on a player and team going absolute nowhere, and punting on an ace to boot.
When that trade was made, there wasn't 1 person in here that was upset about it. Pretty easy to look back in hindsight and say it was a horrible trade given how Harrison is looking this season, and how Tibbs has been for LA, combined with Devers not living up to the hype. I remember people in here were ecstatic when they made the trade
Originally posted by SFGiant49ers:
When that trade was made, there wasn't 1 person in here that was upset about it. Pretty easy to look back in hindsight and say it was a horrible trade given how Harrison is looking this season, and how Tibbs has been for LA, combined with Devers not living up to the hype. I remember people in here were ecstatic when they made the trade

trades are judged on how they pan out. so this take of well it made sense way back when, over time that take starts to vanish and all your left with is how did the trade work out, in reality, over time. this looks like an all time piece of chit trade. i can't think of any team in mlb that is this bad with this many core guys locked up for years on high cost deals. bad team and get used to watching it for a long time, these guys have deals into the 2030s
No hitter broken up

that's a W
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At the time the trade for Devers was made and where the team stood, I wasn't opposed of that trade at all. Looking back at what I hadn't accounted for, the problem with that trade was his contract piled up on top of the Adams, Chapman and Lee's contracts. Which left absolutely no money for the Oracle park bread and butter, pitching. And forced Posey to round out the rotation with 3 scrabs and totally non existing relief. I understand his hope was the mediocre pitching would hold up enough for strengthened hitting overcoming it. When the pitching happened to be so light years worse than mediocre and the hitting at Oracle can never be above par, it wasn't even close to cover that pitching travesty. When the few teams in the entire MLB who are flushed with money run into such situation, they smirk and spend more to correct the situation. Not the Giants ownership group. Profit drives everything in SF and if they can win while staying within the profit boundaries, that's great. If not, there is always the next season.
[ Edited by tl57 on Jul 8, 2026 at 3:36 PM ]
Awful season continues to be awful.
[ Edited by DonnieDarko on Jul 8, 2026 at 9:23 PM ]
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at least the draft is in a few days. we can't possibly screw that up, right????
I was at the game today, literally pulling for Cease to complete the no-hitter at the end so I could at least witness something historic. But of course the Giants screwed that up too.
Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:
Originally posted by SFGiant49ers:
When that trade was made, there wasn't 1 person in here that was upset about it. Pretty easy to look back in hindsight and say it was a horrible trade given how Harrison is looking this season, and how Tibbs has been for LA, combined with Devers not living up to the hype. I remember people in here were ecstatic when they made the trade

trades are judged on how they pan out. so this take of well it made sense way back when, over time that take starts to vanish and all your left with is how did the trade work out, in reality, over time. this looks like an all time piece of chit trade. i can't think of any team in mlb that is this bad with this many core guys locked up for years on high cost deals. bad team and get used to watching it for a long time, these guys have deals into the 2030s

You have to look at the other moves that have been made and not made since that trade. Specifically not hanging on to or rebuilding th bullpen. They knew they would be without their best reliever since he injured his arm last season. They did nothing. The let one of their best relievers leave. No legitimate closer. I could go on but we all know the problems.
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Originally posted by CatchMaster80:
You have to look at the other moves that have been made and not made since that trade. Specifically not hanging on to or rebuilding th bullpen. They knew they would be without their best reliever since he injured his arm last season. They did nothing. The let one of their best relievers leave. No legitimate closer. I could go on but we all know the problems.
That's my point. I will not in a million years believe that Posey had just simply dropped the ball, totally ignoring the pitching side because of his total lack of baseball knowledge or stupidity.
Which leads me to believe into the only other obvious solution. Running into the solid budget spending wall, making the best he could patching the back end of the pitching and hope what he had there and in bullpen in addition to solid Webb and Ray will be prevailed by the better offense. It simply spectacularly backfired. I am actually much more interested to see how they'll go forward in lieu of major untradable contracts other than maybe Lee, and I absolutely know the ownership group's stance (money out, money in up to the budget line) will not change one iota.
Originally posted by tl57:
Originally posted by CatchMaster80:
You have to look at the other moves that have been made and not made since that trade. Specifically not hanging on to or rebuilding th bullpen. They knew they would be without their best reliever since he injured his arm last season. They did nothing. The let one of their best relievers leave. No legitimate closer. I could go on but we all know the problems.
That's my point. I will not in a million years believe that Posey had just simply dropped the ball, totally ignoring the pitching side because of his total lack of baseball knowledge or stupidity.
Which leads me to believe into the only other obvious solution. Running into the solid budget spending wall, making the best he could patching the back end of the pitching and hope what he had there and in bullpen in addition to solid Webb and Ray will be prevailed by the better offense. It simply spectacularly backfired. I am actually much more interested to see how they'll go forward in lieu of major untradable contracts other than maybe Lee, and I absolutely know the ownership group's stance (money out, money in up to the budget line) will not change one iota.

the reality it's two different skill sets. this is where ppl have a challenge as fans, because buster is such a franchise legend and stand up guy. but that's why this went south. the reality is he didn't get the job due to front office acumen. he got the job for what he did between the lines. this ain't the same job. i think derek jeter was involved with the marlins he didn't exactly make them the yankees. it's kinda boring but a lot of the best gms are guys you never heard of. posey didn't do the best he could. that's why he goes around looking like his dog died per reports. he knows he effed up. all those bad contract you mention, posey inked them. he didn't inherit them. except for lee he did all the signings that fans don't like. lee's one of the few guys doing well, and posey didn't get him.
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