2026 San Francisco Giants Season Thread

Originally posted by VaBeachNiner:

Originally posted by CatchMaster80:

Originally posted by Niners99:

Originally posted by Zachary:
I'd take a flyer on Nick Castellanos

The hitting might be underperforming, but this pitching staff is horrendous. Not sure why we expected to run out this staff and get by. Especially after trading away the catcher who was making them look better than they were.

It's not the hitting. They're 5th in the league and 1st in doubles. The problem has been timely hitting. They have the fewest walks of any team by a wide margin. Combine that with stranding too many on base and you see what we have.

The pitching has been so bad that I wasn't comfortable at all with a one run lead last night. I was worried that Logan Webb's first good outing this season was going to go to waste.

At this point I wouldnt be surprised if Webb asked to be traded. This team is not reaching the playoffs anytime soon.

Ask Jim Mora. Remember him when he was asked about the playoffs after a game.

Originally posted by Niners99:
Plus Castellanos is hitting .191, so it's not like he would help us.

Maybe he just needs to bring some beer into the dugout during games

The grandson of the wind is currently batting .322

Originally posted by VaBeachNiner:
The grandson of the wind is currently batting .322

He's on some kind of hot streak. Not just lucky bounces or slow rollers that he beats out. Usually on these hot streaks there are some bloopers that fall in. Everything with him is a line drive. He had his 4th four hit game this season. Most in the league.

Originally posted by CatchMaster80:

Originally posted by Niners99:

Originally posted by Zachary:
I'd take a flyer on Nick Castellanos

The hitting might be underperforming, but this pitching staff is horrendous. Not sure why we expected to run out this staff and get by. Especially after trading away the catcher who was making them look better than they were.

It's not the hitting. They're 5th in the league and 1st in doubles. The problem has been timely hitting. They have the fewest walks of any team by a wide margin. Combine that with stranding too many on base and you see what we have.

The pitching has been so bad that I wasn't comfortable at all with a one run lead last night. I was worried that Logan Webb's first good outing this season was going to go to waste.

I hate to break this for you but timely hitting, drawing walks, and getting on base IS hitting. When you are 28th out of 30 teams in scoring that IS hitting - or lack thereof. Batting average and doubles are completely useless if they dont plate runners.

The Giants are terrible at the plate and on the mound. And that is why only the Rockies have a worse record in the NL.

Originally posted by Ninerjohn:

Originally posted by CatchMaster80:

Originally posted by Niners99:

Originally posted by Zachary:
I'd take a flyer on Nick Castellanos

The hitting might be underperforming, but this pitching staff is horrendous. Not sure why we expected to run out this staff and get by. Especially after trading away the catcher who was making them look better than they were.

It's not the hitting. They're 5th in the league and 1st in doubles. The problem has been timely hitting. They have the fewest walks of any team by a wide margin. Combine that with stranding too many on base and you see what we have.

The pitching has been so bad that I wasn't comfortable at all with a one run lead last night. I was worried that Logan Webb's first good outing this season was going to go to waste.

I hate to break this for you but timely hitting, drawing walks, and getting on base IS hitting. When you are 28th out of 30 teams in scoring that IS hitting - or lack thereof. Batting average and doubles are completely useless if they dont plate runners.

The Giants are terrible at the plate and on the mound. And that is why only the Rockies have a worse record in the NL.

What you refer to as hitting is actually plate appearances. It only becomes hitting when the ball is put in play which is why walks aren't counted as a PA. They go into the OBP category. We agree that their plate appearances (OBP) sucks. So does the base running. The pitching is completely unpredictable. We see an occasional good outing but most are disappointing. Starters unable to go 5 innings and relievers that can't throw strikes.

I compared last season's stats to this year. They were nearly reversed. They drew more walks in 2025 but had fewer hits. Is it because of the new batting coach? In the end it's not about getting base runners. It's what they do when they get them on whether it's with a hit or a walk. Dead last in stolen bases doesn't help. They have some team speed but they don't steal bases well. Are they not being taught how? Do they spend any time studying pitchers moves?

The best sub 500 team to hit grand slams ever.

The Giants are #1 in hits and #18 in runs, and I don't think that includes todays barrage, but an abysmal #23 in ERA obviously

How are we all of a sudden exploding in offense like this? We're beating on the top teams like we believe we're better now

What can we do to fix the pitching?

Originally posted by OnTheClock:
How are we all of a sudden exploding in offense like this? We're beating on the top teams like we believe we're better now

What can we do to fix the pitching?

That's a bigger problem. The hitting is looking more like we expected so it was just a matter of certain players hitting their stride after slow starts. The pitching was going to be a problem going into the season and they haven't disappointed. They've been as bad as predicted. I don't know if they have enough talent to expect a turn around.

Originally posted by CatchMaster80:

Originally posted by Ninerjohn:

Originally posted by CatchMaster80:

Originally posted by Niners99:

Originally posted by Zachary:
I'd take a flyer on Nick Castellanos

The hitting might be underperforming, but this pitching staff is horrendous. Not sure why we expected to run out this staff and get by. Especially after trading away the catcher who was making them look better than they were.

It's not the hitting. They're 5th in the league and 1st in doubles. The problem has been timely hitting. They have the fewest walks of any team by a wide margin. Combine that with stranding too many on base and you see what we have.

The pitching has been so bad that I wasn't comfortable at all with a one run lead last night. I was worried that Logan Webb's first good outing this season was going to go to waste.

I hate to break this for you but timely hitting, drawing walks, and getting on base IS hitting. When you are 28th out of 30 teams in scoring that IS hitting - or lack thereof. Batting average and doubles are completely useless if they dont plate runners.

The Giants are terrible at the plate and on the mound. And that is why only the Rockies have a worse record in the NL.

What you refer to as hitting is actually plate appearances. It only becomes hitting when the ball is put in play which is why walks aren't counted as a PA. They go into the OBP category. We agree that their plate appearances (OBP) sucks. So does the base running. The pitching is completely unpredictable. We see an occasional good outing but most are disappointing. Starters unable to go 5 innings and relievers that can't throw strikes.

I compared last season's stats to this year. They were nearly reversed. They drew more walks in 2025 but had fewer hits. Is it because of the new batting coach? In the end it's not about getting base runners. It's what they do when they get them on whether it's with a hit or a walk. Dead last in stolen bases doesn't help. They have some team speed but they don't steal bases well. Are they not being taught how? Do they spend any time studying pitchers moves?

Trust me , I dont need you to explain anything about stats to me.

You said hitting isn't the issue. I am telling you that hitting IS the issue when you cant score runs or hit with men on base.

In my opinion, they have a flawed lineup. They also have a weak bullpen and marginal starting rotation. That isnt the manager's fault but more the fault of the guy who put the team together.

Apparently, Chapman has a no trade clause?

Originally posted by DeepNinerValue:
Apparently, Chapman has a no trade clause?

I'm sure he will waive it for the right situation

Originally posted by CatchMaster80:
That's a bigger problem. The hitting is looking more like we expected so it was just a matter of certain players hitting their stride after slow starts. The pitching was going to be a problem going into the season and they haven't disappointed. They've been as bad as predicted. I don't know if they have enough talent to expect a turn around.

That is the current crux of the matter. Even if the hitting found themselves, they obviously can't sustain the barrage of yesterday. And they almost need to (close to double digits in runs) other than maybe Webb's (Ray to a lesser degree) games to assure the kind of streak (like winning next 20 of 25 games and continue on that path to even enter the discussion of "maybe". That is the reality given how much of the hole they've put themselves in and their current state of the pitching affairs that does not allow the offense any remote slippage whatsoever. Would you positively give the team the benefit of the doubt winning the game, by giving the reliever 3-4 runs cushion in the last two innings, any reliever? I wouldn't.

Originally posted by Ninerjohn:

Originally posted by CatchMaster80:

Originally posted by Ninerjohn:

Originally posted by CatchMaster80:

Originally posted by Niners99:

Originally posted by Zachary:
I'd take a flyer on Nick Castellanos

The hitting might be underperforming, but this pitching staff is horrendous. Not sure why we expected to run out this staff and get by. Especially after trading away the catcher who was making them look better than they were.

It's not the hitting. They're 5th in the league and 1st in doubles. The problem has been timely hitting. They have the fewest walks of any team by a wide margin. Combine that with stranding too many on base and you see what we have.

The pitching has been so bad that I wasn't comfortable at all with a one run lead last night. I was worried that Logan Webb's first good outing this season was going to go to waste.

I hate to break this for you but timely hitting, drawing walks, and getting on base IS hitting. When you are 28th out of 30 teams in scoring that IS hitting - or lack thereof. Batting average and doubles are completely useless if they dont plate runners.

The Giants are terrible at the plate and on the mound. And that is why only the Rockies have a worse record in the NL.

What you refer to as hitting is actually plate appearances. It only becomes hitting when the ball is put in play which is why walks aren't counted as a PA. They go into the OBP category. We agree that their plate appearances (OBP) sucks. So does the base running. The pitching is completely unpredictable. We see an occasional good outing but most are disappointing. Starters unable to go 5 innings and relievers that can't throw strikes.

I compared last season's stats to this year. They were nearly reversed. They drew more walks in 2025 but had fewer hits. Is it because of the new batting coach? In the end it's not about getting base runners. It's what they do when they get them on whether it's with a hit or a walk. Dead last in stolen bases doesn't help. They have some team speed but they don't steal bases well. Are they not being taught how? Do they spend any time studying pitchers moves?

Trust me , I dont need you to explain anything about stats to me.

You said hitting isn't the issue. I am telling you that hitting IS the issue when you cant score runs or hit with men on base.

In my opinion, they have a flawed lineup. They also have a weak bullpen and marginal starting rotation. That isnt the manager's fault but more the fault of the guy who put the team together.

I said exactly that in my original post. I said it wasn't hitting, it was timely hitting. Isn't that what your're saying too? I agree that there's more to hittring than just BA. Moving runners along with a sacrifice fly or even hitting to the other side of the field. Getting deep in the count and making the pitcher throw a lot of pitches. They're getting runners on base via hits (not walks) and they're leaving them stranded. They've looked better recently but how long will that last. Maybe now that the hitting has picked up they'll start drawing more walks or seeing more pitches as pitchers try to keep the ball out of the zone more.

The hitting has looked better but Milwaukee and Chicago are both good hitters parks. We'll see what happens when they come back home. I'm sure we won't be seeing 7 HRs in a game at Oracle.