2025 San Francisco Giants Season Thread

Originally posted by SteveWallacesHelmet:
We just signed a right handed Yaz.

I looked at his career stats yesterday to see what six other teams he played for. I didn't draw that comparison, but absolutely agree with your assessment on first glance. More of a .230-250 hitter and not usually hitting that many dingers. ROY and goldglove though.

Originally posted by DertyDonahue:

Originally posted by SteveWallacesHelmet:
We just signed a right handed Yaz.

I looked at his career stats yesterday to see what six other teams he played for. I didn't draw that comparison, but absolutely agree with your assessment on first glance. More of a .230-250 hitter and not usually hitting that many dingers. ROY and goldglove though.

This is the kind of signings we can expect unde rthe directives of the ownership. They can't outbid the Dodgers and maybe the Mets for top players so they need to go after the next level players. Bader is an upgrade on defense and maybe on offense.

I'm actually pretty happy with the Bader signing. He's a gold glove caliber defender and has speed. Now you have two really good defenders in the OF...which you need when you have Ramos out there. I think that makes Gilbert a backup which is good.

Originally posted by Rubberneck36:
I'm actually pretty happy with the Bader signing. He's a gold glove caliber defender and has speed. Now you have two really good defenders in the OF...which you need when you have Ramos out there. I think that makes Gilbert a backup which is good.

Lee isn't a good defender. It's not that he made a lot of errors. He just didn't make some plays he should have. That's why they wanted to upgrade. He has an average arm and takes bad routes. He has the speed to be a better than he is.

Both Lee and Ramos have said they spent much of the off season working on defense. Hopefully it pays off. Lee will need to learn to play that tough right field in SF unless they put Bader in right.

Originally posted by CatchMaster80:

Originally posted by Rubberneck36:
I'm actually pretty happy with the Bader signing. He's a gold glove caliber defender and has speed. Now you have two really good defenders in the OF...which you need when you have Ramos out there. I think that makes Gilbert a backup which is good.

Lee isn't a good defender. It's not that he made a lot of errors. He just didn't make some plays he should have. That's why they wanted to upgrade. He has an average arm and takes bad routes. He has the speed to be a better than he is.

Both Lee and Ramos have said they sent much of the off season working on defense. Hopefully it pays off. Lee will need to learn to play that tough right field in SF unless they put Bader in right.

what is it like being wrong so often?

Originally posted by CatchMaster80:

Originally posted by Rubberneck36:
I'm actually pretty happy with the Bader signing. He's a gold glove caliber defender and has speed. Now you have two really good defenders in the OF...which you need when you have Ramos out there. I think that makes Gilbert a backup which is good.

Lee isn't a good defender. It's not that he made a lot of errors. He just didn't make some plays he should have. That's why they wanted to upgrade. He has an average arm and takes bad routes. He has the speed to be a better than he is.

Both Lee and Ramos have said they sent much of the off season working on defense. Hopefully it pays off. Lee will need to learn to play that tough right field in SF unless they put Bader in right.

Lee is a scrub, way overpaid, won't ever be more than a mid player getting superstar money, Ramos is meh too but better

Nah, we didnt need that.

Originally posted by SteveWallacesHelmet:

Kevin Gausman has been among the best free agent starting pitchers in recent decades, after signing his five-year, $110 million deal with the Jays. From 2021-25 (the first of those with San Francisco), he's been so consistent:
158 starts
3.34 ERA
925 2/3 IP
1,020 Ks
16.4 WAR
He's…

— Buster Olney (@Buster_ESPN) January 29, 2026

Nah, we didnt need that.

More often than not those deals turn out like Johnny Cueto, so I can't blame them for being gunshy.

Originally posted by PRIMETIME21:

Originally posted by CatchMaster80:

Originally posted by Rubberneck36:
I'm actually pretty happy with the Bader signing. He's a gold glove caliber defender and has speed. Now you have two really good defenders in the OF...which you need when you have Ramos out there. I think that makes Gilbert a backup which is good.

Lee isn't a good defender. It's not that he made a lot of errors. He just didn't make some plays he should have. That's why they wanted to upgrade. He has an average arm and takes bad routes. He has the speed to be a better than he is.

Both Lee and Ramos have said they sent much of the off season working on defense. Hopefully it pays off. Lee will need to learn to play that tough right field in SF unless they put Bader in right.

Lee is a scrub, way overpaid, won't ever be more than a mid player getting superstar money, Ramos is meh too but better

Maybe they aren't great but that's the best the Giants have right now. They both can hit a little so if they can improve their defense that will be a big plus.

Originally posted by Rubberneck36:

Originally posted by CatchMaster80:

Originally posted by Rubberneck36:
I'm actually pretty happy with the Bader signing. He's a gold glove caliber defender and has speed. Now you have two really good defenders in the OF...which you need when you have Ramos out there. I think that makes Gilbert a backup which is good.

Lee isn't a good defender. It's not that he made a lot of errors. He just didn't make some plays he should have. That's why they wanted to upgrade. He has an average arm and takes bad routes. He has the speed to be a better than he is.

Both Lee and Ramos have said they sent much of the off season working on defense. Hopefully it pays off. Lee will need to learn to play that tough right field in SF unless they put Bader in right.

what is it like being wrong so often?

So where am I wrong? Are you saying Lee or Ramos are really good defenders? They aren't. Lee is average at best and Ramos made a lot of mistakes.

They both acknowledged the fact that they need to get better defensively. That's why they worked on it in the off season. Both have the tools to be good if they can learn to take better routes.

Originally posted by CatchMaster80:

Originally posted by Rubberneck36:

Originally posted by CatchMaster80:

Originally posted by Rubberneck36:
I'm actually pretty happy with the Bader signing. He's a gold glove caliber defender and has speed. Now you have two really good defenders in the OF...which you need when you have Ramos out there. I think that makes Gilbert a backup which is good.

Lee isn't a good defender. It's not that he made a lot of errors. He just didn't make some plays he should have. That's why they wanted to upgrade. He has an average arm and takes bad routes. He has the speed to be a better than he is.

Both Lee and Ramos have said they sent much of the off season working on defense. Hopefully it pays off. Lee will need to learn to play that tough right field in SF unless they put Bader in right.

what is it like being wrong so often?

So where am I wrong? Are you saying Lee or Ramos are really good defenders? They aren't. Lee is average at best and Ramos made a lot of mistakes.

They both acknowledged the fact that they need to get better defensively. That's why they worked on it in the off season. Both have the tools to be good if they can learn to take better routes.

When I said you have two good defenders in the OF which you need because of Ramos you took that as Ramos is good? Do you struggle with reading? Obviously Ramos isn't a good defender. Its been talked about all season.

Lee made a few mistakes in the OF but he also made some really good plays. He has a terrific arm and his outs above average was +7, ranking 19th among outfielders and in the top 8% for defensive skills. He also showcased elite speed, recording a sprint speed of 28.8 feet per second, placing him in the top 15%.

You also engaged with prime above about Lee being a scrub and took the comment seriously. Which you do often in here. Which is why I said you are wrong often...because a lot of your takes are awful. Lee started off strong last year, had one bad month, then rebounded. His stats are better than most on the team and he had a crap ton of extra base hits. Like a crap ton...but he's scrub. And compared to today's salaries, he doesn't make that much money overall. See his other dumb comment. Lee will be better in RF, will improve defensively and probably have a pretty damn good year offensively with a full season under his belt. He needs to work on stealing bases. Hopefully. But yeah, total scrub. But to each his own.

Originally posted by Rubberneck36:

Originally posted by CatchMaster80:

Originally posted by Rubberneck36:

Originally posted by CatchMaster80:

Originally posted by Rubberneck36:
I'm actually pretty happy with the Bader signing. He's a gold glove caliber defender and has speed. Now you have two really good defenders in the OF...which you need when you have Ramos out there. I think that makes Gilbert a backup which is good.

Lee isn't a good defender. It's not that he made a lot of errors. He just didn't make some plays he should have. That's why they wanted to upgrade. He has an average arm and takes bad routes. He has the speed to be a better than he is.

Both Lee and Ramos have said they sent much of the off season working on defense. Hopefully it pays off. Lee will need to learn to play that tough right field in SF unless they put Bader in right.

what is it like being wrong so often?

So where am I wrong? Are you saying Lee or Ramos are really good defenders? They aren't. Lee is average at best and Ramos made a lot of mistakes.

They both acknowledged the fact that they need to get better defensively. That's why they worked on it in the off season. Both have the tools to be good if they can learn to take better routes.

When I said you have two good defenders in the OF which you need because of Ramos you took that as Ramos is good? Do you struggle with reading? Obviously Ramos isn't a good defender. Its been talked about all season.

Lee made a few mistakes in the OF but he also made some really good plays. He has a terrific arm and his outs above average was +7, ranking 19th among outfielders and in the top 8% for defensive skills. He also showcased elite speed, recording a sprint speed of 28.8 feet per second, placing him in the top 15%.

You also engaged with prime above about Lee being a scrub and took the comment seriously. Which you do often in here. Which is why I said you are wrong often...because a lot of your takes are awful. Lee started off strong last year, had one bad month, then rebounded. His stats are better than most on the team and he had a crap ton of extra base hits. Like a crap ton...but he's scrub. And compared to today's salaries, he doesn't make that much money overall. See his other dumb comment. Lee will be better in RF, will improve defensively and probably have a pretty damn good year offensively with a full season under his belt. He needs to work on stealing bases. Hopefully. But yeah, total scrub. But to each his own.

I was surprised to see that Lee's arm strength is in the 91st percentile. How is it possible to be in the 91st percentile and possess an "average arm"?

Originally posted by DickWedgie:
I was surprised to see that Lee's arm strength is in the 91st percentile. How is it possible to be in the 91st percentile and possess an "average arm"?

Good question. He obviously has a good arm. 91st percentile? ehhh I don't know about that. When I see 91st I think guys like Acuna.

Originally posted by Rubberneck36:

Originally posted by DickWedgie:
I was surprised to see that Lee's arm strength is in the 91st percentile. How is it possible to be in the 91st percentile and possess an "average arm"?

Good question. He obviously has a good arm. 91st percentile? ehhh I don't know about that. When I see 91st I think guys like Acuna.

I haven't seen it either but I'm sure it's based on advanced stats etc. https://www.nbcsportsbayarea.com/mlb/san-francisco-giants/jung-hoo-lee-right-field-move/1911431/?partner=yahoo

Saw we traded Teng to the Astros.