2026 San Francisco Giants Season Thread

Originally posted by CatchMaster80:

Originally posted by SteveWallacesHelmet:
I like Houser as a #5. Unfortunately, he is currently our #3.

It doesn't really matter much after opening day what number a pitche ris. They all get their turn every 5 games so what's the difference. Especially now that most aren't expected to go more than 5 or 6 innings.

He's not talking about the order they pitch, he is talking about potential. He's a 5 on most staffs, but on ours he's a 3. The Dodgers have 4 #1's for example.

We are going to have 2 #1's and 3 #5's.

Originally posted by Rubberneck36:

Originally posted by CatchMaster80:

Originally posted by SteveWallacesHelmet:
I like Houser as a #5. Unfortunately, he is currently our #3.

It doesn't really matter much after opening day what number a pitche ris. They all get their turn every 5 games so what's the difference. Especially now that most aren't expected to go more than 5 or 6 innings.

He's not talking about the order they pitch, he is talking about potential. He's a 5 on most staffs, but on ours he's a 3. The Dodgers have 4 #1's for example.

We are going to have 2 #1's and 3 #5's.

I understand that but how can you even rank them. Most pitchers are up and down every year. You're lucky if you have one really consistent starter. If you have 2 it's a luxury. What metrics do you use to rank them? ERA. Innings pitched. BA against. Wins.

Originally posted by CatchMaster80:

Originally posted by Rubberneck36:

Originally posted by CatchMaster80:

Originally posted by SteveWallacesHelmet:
I like Houser as a #5. Unfortunately, he is currently our #3.

It doesn't really matter much after opening day what number a pitche ris. They all get their turn every 5 games so what's the difference. Especially now that most aren't expected to go more than 5 or 6 innings.

He's not talking about the order they pitch, he is talking about potential. He's a 5 on most staffs, but on ours he's a 3. The Dodgers have 4 #1's for example.

We are going to have 2 #1's and 3 #5's.

I understand that but how can you even rank them. Most pitchers are up and down every year. You're lucky if you have one really consistent starter. If you have 2 it's a luxury. What metrics do you use to rank them? ERA. Innings pitched. BA against. Wins.

You are looking WAY too much into my comment. You know what I meant.

Originally posted by Rubberneck36:

Originally posted by CatchMaster80:

Originally posted by SteveWallacesHelmet:
I like Houser as a #5. Unfortunately, he is currently our #3.

It doesn't really matter much after opening day what number a pitche ris. They all get their turn every 5 games so what's the difference. Especially now that most aren't expected to go more than 5 or 6 innings.

He's not talking about the order they pitch, he is talking about potential. He's a 5 on most staffs, but on ours he's a 3. The Dodgers have 4 #1's for example.

We are going to have 2 #1's and 3 #5's.

The athletic mentioned that the plan is to grab another SP to be 3 then roupp and houser round out 4 and 5. Whether that pans out…..

Originally posted by Hoovtrain:

Originally posted by Rubberneck36:

Originally posted by CatchMaster80:

Originally posted by SteveWallacesHelmet:
I like Houser as a #5. Unfortunately, he is currently our #3.

It doesn't really matter much after opening day what number a pitche ris. They all get their turn every 5 games so what's the difference. Especially now that most aren't expected to go more than 5 or 6 innings.

He's not talking about the order they pitch, he is talking about potential. He's a 5 on most staffs, but on ours he's a 3. The Dodgers have 4 #1's for example.

We are going to have 2 #1's and 3 #5's.

The athletic mentioned that the plan is to grab another SP to be 3 then roupp and houser round out 4 and 5. Whether that pans out…..

It doesn't make much difference since at least one is bound to go on the IR for an exrended stay. It happens every year.

Marco Luciano DFA'd by the Pirates.

SMFH

Originally posted by SteveWallacesHelmet:
Marco Luciano DFA'd by the Pirates.

SMFH

Wow. How far he has fallen. From the #13 overall prospect in 2022 to being DFAd.

Originally posted by CatchMaster80:

Originally posted by SteveWallacesHelmet:
Marco Luciano DFA'd by the Pirates.

SMFH

Wow. How far he has fallen. From the #13 overall prospect in 2022 to being DFAd.

Makes me wonder if it's based on work ethic. Maybe he just doesn't have the drive to be great. All talent, no drive. He hit a HR at 119 mph off the bat, and a 500+ ft HR. He clearly has special ability, but he can't focus it.

Originally posted by Niners99:

Originally posted by CatchMaster80:

Originally posted by SteveWallacesHelmet:
Marco Luciano DFA'd by the Pirates.

SMFH

Wow. How far he has fallen. From the #13 overall prospect in 2022 to being DFAd.

Makes me wonder if it's based on work ethic. Maybe he just doesn't have the drive to be great. All talent, no drive. He hit a HR at 119 mph off the bat, and a 500+ ft HR. He clearly has special ability, but he can't focus it.

Definitely something missing in his attic. He's never been able to learn to play well enough in the field and his hitting has been very erratic. Lot's ofplayers have talent but way too many wilt under the competition. They get by on that talent when they're facing average players in lower levels but they can't handle it when the talent gets better as they rise through the system.

Originally posted by CatchMaster80:

Originally posted by Niners99:

Originally posted by CatchMaster80:

Originally posted by SteveWallacesHelmet:
Marco Luciano DFA'd by the Pirates.

SMFH

Wow. How far he has fallen. From the #13 overall prospect in 2022 to being DFAd.

Makes me wonder if it's based on work ethic. Maybe he just doesn't have the drive to be great. All talent, no drive. He hit a HR at 119 mph off the bat, and a 500+ ft HR. He clearly has special ability, but he can't focus it.

Definitely something missing in his attic. He's never been able to learn to play well enough in the field and his hitting has been very erratic. Lot's ofplayers have talent but way too many wilt under the competition. They get by on that talent when they're facing average players in lower levels but they can't handle it when the talent gets better as they rise through the system.

The Giants definitely screwed up his development, but he's partially to blame. If they had just moved him to OF years ago and let him focus on one thing it might have been different. He definitely got called up too early. Its probably a good representation of their organizational ineptitude for developing hitters.

Originally posted by Niners99:

Originally posted by CatchMaster80:

Originally posted by Niners99:

Originally posted by CatchMaster80:

Originally posted by SteveWallacesHelmet:
Marco Luciano DFA'd by the Pirates.

SMFH

Wow. How far he has fallen. From the #13 overall prospect in 2022 to being DFAd.

Makes me wonder if it's based on work ethic. Maybe he just doesn't have the drive to be great. All talent, no drive. He hit a HR at 119 mph off the bat, and a 500+ ft HR. He clearly has special ability, but he can't focus it.

Definitely something missing in his attic. He's never been able to learn to play well enough in the field and his hitting has been very erratic. Lot's ofplayers have talent but way too many wilt under the competition. They get by on that talent when they're facing average players in lower levels but they can't handle it when the talent gets better as they rise through the system.

The Giants definitely screwed up his development, but he's partially to blame. If they had just moved him to OF years ago and let him focus on one thing it might have been different. He definitely got called up too early. Its probably a good representation of their organizational ineptitude for developing hitters.

Absolutely. This ongoing lack of young position players (especially OF talent) from within the organization can't be entirely attributed to poor scouting. Something is wrong with the way they're being developed in their system. Promising young hitters seem to stagnate. Their flaws are never fixed.

It's natural that many aren't going to make the big leagues but this has been going on for over 40 years. The last really good outfielder was Chili Davis in 1981. Since then we've seen countless great outfielders brought up by other teams. I lost track of how many times I've watched games and asked myself why can't we find a player like this when some young player on the other team wrecks the Giants.

Originally posted by Niners99:

Originally posted by CatchMaster80:

Originally posted by SteveWallacesHelmet:
Marco Luciano DFA'd by the Pirates.

SMFH

Wow. How far he has fallen. From the #13 overall prospect in 2022 to being DFAd.

Makes me wonder if it's based on work ethic. Maybe he just doesn't have the drive to be great. All talent, no drive. He hit a HR at 119 mph off the bat, and a 500+ ft HR. He clearly has special ability, but he can't focus it.

Maybe that, maybe he stares at dicks in the locker room. He has had enough time to do the damn thing. Can't coach stupid.

Originally posted by Niners99:
The Giants definitely screwed up his development, but he's partially to blame. If they had just moved him to OF years ago and let him focus on one thing it might have been different. He definitely got called up too early. Its probably a good representation of their organizational ineptitude for developing hitters.

I think this drum is beat too often. It is a lot of players who have been AAA all world but can't stick in the bigs. He didn't even pwn AAA pitchers.

Originally posted by DertyDonahue:

Originally posted by Niners99:
The Giants definitely screwed up his development, but he's partially to blame. If they had just moved him to OF years ago and let him focus on one thing it might have been different. He definitely got called up too early. Its probably a good representation of their organizational ineptitude for developing hitters.

I think this drum is beat too often. It is a lot of players who have been AAA all world but can't stick in the bigs. He didn't even pwn AAA pitchers.

True. That's a major differnece between baseball and football. Football players don't need to go to the minors and develop. Baseball players can take years to hone their skills. Pitchers that throw 95+ often need to develop a good breaking pitch or work on control before they get promoted. Hitters need to learn how to hit those breaking pitches. Hitting a baseball is often considered the hardest thing to do in sports. If you hit .250 which is now considered pretty good you're only successful 1 out of 4 times. Imagine how long you would last as a QB in the NFL if you only completed 25% of your passes.

The skills needed to play major league baseball are much harder to learn than the skills needed to play football. Other than QB the other positions are more about strength and speed. If you have it in college it usually translates to the NFL unless you get injured.

Guys that needed more development and made the adjustment: Matt Williams. Helios Ramos.
then the other side of the list…
bowker, schierholtz, meckler etc

Jonathan Sanchez never learned how to throw strikes, for example. Stuck in the bigs.
Hunter Strickland had hittable high velo stuff, stuck in the bigs.